AOW Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Lipko - that is correct there was not many of realism in it ;) but still that is the "bar" that has set for all the ones that came after it. As nicjasno said I too would like to see new parts that would be more ore less realistic - such as : McPherson or New hubs for FWD and AWD. I really hope that 42056 will set new level of Lego's SuperCars. regards
Samer Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 So guys are you saying that 8880 is the best to date? This amazes me as someone who didn't ever meet any LEGO supercar. With all those Ferraris and many other big sporty cars, the old one which looks an old collection of black technic bricks tops all?! I want to get it in this case.
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) It has the best awd system of any lego supercar so far. And its CV joints actually allow for some normal steering angles and allow you to transfer power to the wheels without popping out immediately. It also introduced the new style wheels, where the tire isn't just foam rubber but much more realistic. It also introduced the new gearbox with clutch gears. Quite revolutionary in 1993. No supercar has made such a big step from its predecessor ever since. Since then, we're getting served more of the tweaked 8880 stuff, just in prettier, panneled packages. Edited February 11, 2016 by nicjasno
Samer Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 So I understand from what u explained that it made the best step, but there are currently slightly better (superficially) .
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) It made the biggest step compared to its predecesssors, but current setups are not really better. The current suspension setups are smaller in size, and the suspension arms are 6L instead of 6.5L, which removes the bump steer that 8880 had, but the CV joints are worse, because they allow for very small steering angles and don't allow to transfer a lot of power before popping out. The placement of the steering rack in front or behind the axle is trivial at this point. The gearboxes have gotten more gears, but still work in the same way as the 8880 gearbox did. What was improved of course is the visual appearance of the models and the introduction of studless. But neither is a specific supercar trait, but a technic feature in general. Edited February 11, 2016 by nicjasno
Samer Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks, considering your points above and by what is seen of 42056 so far how is it doing? Also curious to know, though off-topic, how does 42039 do in the same fields?
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 The only thing in the technical department that the 42039 has going for it so far are the new wheels. However we can see that it could potentially have new wheel hubs, so i'll wait and see about that. I'm absolutely unimpressed by the front suspension and the rear is probably just as dull. The looks are its main feature so far.
aol000xw Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 About the suspension range, I don't know if it has already been said. but the model looks to be screwed to the platform so perhaps it was a bit too tight and the suspension was already compressed.
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 The suspension range is dictated with the spring as you can see on the pics i posted on the previous page. The suspension range has nothing to do with my rant about it. :)
aol000xw Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 The suspension range is dictated with the spring as you can see on the pics i posted on the previous page. The suspension range has nothing to do with my rant about it. :) My comment is just a general observation to explain de few millimiters of clearance in the front
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 The suspension as is has only 1 stud of travel. I imagine that with the full weight of the car resting on the suspension it compresses the suspension enough to drop by about half a stud.
Kumbbl Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 The gearboxes have gotten more gears, but still work in the same way as the 8880 gearbox did. and the 8880 gear selector is still the best one TLG has ever made...
Emmi Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 ... sets range from $12.99 to $279.99 - LEGO Technic So the Porsche will be $279.99, but that would only be around 215-230€, so I guess the Bucket Wheel Excavator will be $279.99 and the price for the Porsche is yet to be unveiled. New York Toy Fair 2016 LEGO press release http://www.thebrickfan.com/new-york-toy-fair-2016-starts-this-weekend-and-official-press-release/
Kman860 Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Either way, this year will be expensive as hell :laugh:
Kristof Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 About the suspension range, I don't know if it has already been said. but the model looks to be screwed to the platform so perhaps it was a bit too tight and the suspension was already compressed. This sounds possible, could be as you say. The suspension as is has only 1 stud of travel. I imagine that with the full weight of the car resting on the suspension it compresses the suspension enough to drop by about half a stud. So you think that the clearance we see on pics is as it's supposed to be? I have my doubts, really. Also where is the '1 stud travel' from? I probably missed some picture or I can't deduce from these I have seen.
nicjasno Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 So you think that the clearance we see on pics is as it's supposed to be? I have my doubts, really. Also where is the '1 stud travel' from? I probably missed some picture or I can't deduce from these I have seen. Build this: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=120399&st=825#entry2467887 It has exactly 1 stud of travel.
Kristof Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 ^ Ouch, really. That looks it really could be like that (as far as one can tell from that low quality pic with lifted front hood). Hmm... another thing I wish is not finlal. I wouldn't really mind 1 stud travel if the car rested higher on wheels when not being forced down. This really looks like road spokeshave, not a car :)
NevynPA Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I was just at the King of Prussia, PA LEGO store yesterday and the one employee there said that they were shown some information that had the car in orange or the teal/aquamarine of the drag racer.
bob st-claire Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) I was just at the King of Prussia, PA LEGO store yesterday and the one employee there said that they were shown some information that had the car in orange or the teal/aquamarine of the drag racer. OR? Will it be either/or? so my wish for choice of colours will actually happen? Edited February 12, 2016 by bob st-claire
NevynPA Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 He saw photos of both, is probably a better way to say it.
TheCodfather Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I was just at the King of Prussia, PA LEGO store yesterday and the one employee there said that they were shown some information that had the car in orange or the teal/aquamarine of the drag racer. That would explain the dragster's sudden new Technic colour choice!
flyboy01 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I'm sceptical too. but maybe he is right. if so, ORANGE FTW!
Kman860 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Teal makes absolutely no sense. This has to be made up because everything about this set is accurate to Porsche, so why would they use a non-Porsche colour?
jura93 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Medium azure and orange? They are legendary racing colors of Porsche. It would require a lot of stickers to make it look smooth I think. Like on Cumulonimbus's picture. Edited February 12, 2016 by jura93
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