Saberwing40k Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Really though, is it really a kid's toy? Yes, kids play with Lego, but for something as advanced and expensive as 42056 is, does it count? Are the Star Wars UCS sets kid toys too? Where does one draw the line? Plus, a toy company can aim stuff at older collectors. Also, what I meant was basically what parent would buy this thing for a kid? This set is clearly aimed at adult and older collectors, somebody with enough cash to buy this thing for themselves. Although, I can think of some exceptions, my parents included... For Christmas of 2001, at the age of 7, I got 10019 Rebel Blockade Runner as a present, and built the darn thing by myself, with minimal assistance from any parental unit. But, I'm a rare case. So, I was just saying that while some parents might get this set for their children, it's going to be rare cases. Edited February 23, 2016 by Saberwing40k
1974 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Yes it's a toy. TLG is a toy company and a rather succesfull one, but for sure they do market certain products to adults I mean, who - as a kid - ever lusted for a Tower Bridge, a Taj Mahal or a Sydney Opera House? Or all the architecture sets? A bunch of the SW UCS are also play type sets This set? Not sure ..
zux Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I mean, who - as a kid - ever lusted for a Tower Bridge, a Taj Mahal or a Sydney Opera House? Or all the architecture sets?Don't underestimate the crowd. There are a bunch of various "freaks" related to LEGO (which is good). Someone bought Jack Stone and Galidor stuff after all.
AlphaX Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 You shouldn't forget about the "exploring factor" in playing, technic sets have a lot of functions which in other sets the kids have to imagine. Technic is less about playing and more about trying out different mechanics and exploring known ones - all that while achieving "realism". At least it was that way to me as a kid and is still like that today.
1974 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Don't underestimate the crowd. There are a bunch of various "freaks" related to LEGO (which is good). Someone bought Jack Stone and Galidor stuff after all. Kids (or the kid's parents) bought those sets, nothing mysterious about that
Kman860 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Well I would say the odds are, WE Would Have Known. If they do introduce say a new buggy motor, well then it would be too late because it would have to work with PF system 1 and everyone knows that a PF system 2 is coming sometime later. Don't say a PF system 2 isn't coming, Cause it is. Alright? What makes you say we would have known? Also, we don't know PF 2.0 is coming. There has been literally 0 confirmation on that. So don't get an attitude because you think you're right. Either one of you could be right.
Saberwing40k Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I mean, who - as a kid - ever lusted for a Tower Bridge, a Taj Mahal or a Sydney Opera House? Or all the architecture sets? You'd be surprised, I have seen at least one kid who was after the architecture sets.
hadidi1999 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Also, we don't know PF 2.0 is coming. There has been literally 0 confirmation on that. Alright if you see this as literally 0 confirmation, then do so, But I don't: What does that mean for the existing plug systems on other Power Function and MINDSTORMS products? Will they also be changed? Yes, eventually we will convert to the new plug system after a transition period. The exact timing of this transition has not been determined. Source: http://education.leg...ort/wedo-2/faqs Edited February 23, 2016 by hadidi1999
RichiPuppy Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I received a 8865 when I was 7 and built that myself. Even with the high price I still would not be surprised if most of the sales are for kids. How many kids do you see with beats headphones? That is in the same price category, and there are a lot of headphones that are much cheaper.
1974 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 You'd be surprised, I have seen at least one kid who was after the architecture sets. Good for you. That means TLG failed as those sets are squarely aimed at AFOLs Now, lets get back to the Porsche ,,,
Kman860 Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Alright if you see this as literally 0 confirmation, then do so, But I don't: What does that mean for the existing plug systems on other Power Function and MINDSTORMS products? Will they also be changed? Yes, eventually we will convert to the new plug system after a transition period. The exact timing of this transition has not been determined. Source: http://education.leg...ort/wedo-2/faqs REALLY?! Just because they said they'll change the plugs mean they'll redesign the whole PF system, with all new motors? Well that must mean you have inside information, because that's a big assertion to make just from TLG say they are going to change the plugs...
NevynPA Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I received a 8865 when I was 7 and built that myself. Even with the high price I still would not be surprised if most of the sales are for kids. How many kids do you see with beats headphones? That is in the same price category, and there are a lot of headphones that are much cheaper. I got an 8868 for my 7th birthday. Nobody said it was too complex or only for adults or out of my age range. Parents buy $500 game systems for kids, why not a $300 LEGO set? Edited February 24, 2016 by NevynPA
deehtha Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 REALLY?! Just because they said they'll change the plugs mean they'll redesign the whole PF system, with all new motors? Well that must mean you have inside information, because that's a big assertion to make just from TLG say they are going to change the plugs... "What is the Smarthub 2 I/O? An electronic system based building brick that is part of the LEGO Power Functions (LPF) 2.0, a new technology platform for LEGO Education." Straight from the same page that mentions changing plugs. Although this does just say for LEGO Education. 2.0 is happening, just a question of when and what.
P3_Super_Bee Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Anyway, the whole thing about kids playing with this is frankly a little bit baffling My 2 1/2 year old grandson will be playing with this. He plays with most of my other Lego sets as well. Granted I am there with him. He's actually starting to work the Volvo Wheel Loader, and 4X4 Crawler quite well now.
hadidi1999 Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Yes I think that the "What is the Smarthub 2 I/O? An electronic system based building brick that is part of the LEGO Power Functions (LPF) 2.0, a new technology platform for LEGO Education." Straight from the same page that mentions changing plugs. Although this does just say for LEGO Education. 2.0 is happening, just a question of when and what. I think it is happening too. It just has too. Besides, I don't think TLG would spend the time and money to perfect the PF 2.0 system, and then just give it to preschoolers.
flyboy01 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 I just remembered, technic's big 40th anniversary is next year. why would thye release these, (42055 and 42056) if they might have to overdo it next year! maybe this will set the bar low by ruining our hopes.
andythenorth Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) There will be the equivalent of PF 2.0, whether it's called that or not, Lego announced it as part of the WeDo 2.0 launch and it has been widely discussed online, including these forums. Eh backseat moderating is considered naughty on EB, but PF 2.0 is off-topic for this thread imho, and you can find better discussion of it here, ta: http://www.eurobrick...howtopic=119386 I would be surprised to see an RC model with working gearbox. I have built PF vehicles with gearboxes, they tend to shock-load the transmission when changing gears whilst moving. There is a snatch as the dog clutch parts disengage/engage, and another snatch due to the sudden difference in rotation speeds between parts as the ratio changes. This shock-loading causes split cogs, especially in big heavy models (and the Porsche will be both big and heavy). A true automotive-style clutch plate would smooth out gear changes, but a functioning, reliable Lego clutch plate part is a big ask. On the other hand, my track record on predictions is almost 100% wrong Edited February 26, 2016 by andythenorth
drakmin Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) I think biggest problem with motorized supercars is not the speed or performance but batteryboxes and electric motors in places where real life car would't have those. Atleast for me it's a huge turnoff when pf engine is placed lets say behind drivers seat which is just not realistic. Even if the electric motor was placed where the real car has its engine it feels wrong and unrealistic. (Maybe only exception could be if the Lego car was modeled after electric car :)) For me it's hard to see why anyone would want a remote controlled and simultaneously realistic Lego car because adding pf elements makes the model instantly unrealistic. I think Lego supercars should be 100% mechanical and in some way teach younger people how the mechanics and drivetrain of a real car work. Edited February 26, 2016 by drakmin
brunojj1 Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 Playing with Lego cars has rather little to do with real life, on the other hand we can build and play with cars we can never have in real life. A supercar has to look as much as possible like a real car, agree, but it´s still a toy to play with. Standing mostly on the shelf and moving it sometimes a few inches back and forth only to see some pistons moving is kind of boring for me. Why shouldn´t it feature mechanics AND some powered functions? Should the approach to realism include a fuel tank and injectors with real fuel burning? A real car has a fuel tank. And electrics. I understand the purists and let them have their opinion but I´d like to see more than suspension - gearbox - piston engine.
Hefe Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Anyone took a look to the limited 911R type 991 from Geneva Motor show? White and (bright red/orange) livery only missing thing would be the rear spoiler. And it is limited to 991 pcs - that means ultimative rare
hadidi1999 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Anyone took a look to the limited 911R type 991 from Geneva Motor show? White and (bright red/orange) livery only missing thing would be the rear spoiler. And it is limited to 991 pcs - that means ultimative rare The only limited edition car that I thought was super cool looking and wish I had, was the 2013 hotwheels camaro. I just thought it was a brilliant idea. Edited February 29, 2016 by hadidi1999
cloud Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 My 2 1/2 year old grandson will be playing with this. He plays with most of my other Lego sets as well. Granted I am there with him. He's actually starting to work the Volvo Wheel Loader, and 4X4 Crawler quite well now. Awesome. My son is a month shy of his 2 year birthday and loves the volvo loader and mkII crane. Of course I'm supervising, but once shown how things work, he operates the vehicles. He even helped me put the crane together by pushing in pins and connecting beams - took weeks, but so much fun. I can see this porsche being assembled by him with some help and supervision next yule.
AkiyamaWataru Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Awesome. My son is a month shy of his 2 year birthday and loves the volvo loader and mkII crane. Of course I'm supervising, but once shown how things work, he operates the vehicles. He even helped me put the crane together by pushing in pins and connecting beams - took weeks, but so much fun. I can see this porsche being assembled by him with some help and supervision next yule. It will be the same with my son (2 years old). The controls of the 42043 are not save from him. I just bought the 42036 and he was inspecting the wheels an gears. So even with AFOLs there will be children playing with these sets and to be honest. It just fills me with joy watching him stacking his little vtech cars on the back of 42043-b.
flyboy01 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I just went to my local toy store, asked to see their catalog, and then searched for the set. unfortunately, I couldn't find it. Apparently, Lego is not realeasing it to small businesses. which sucks because I don't want to drive 4 hours to the nearest ToyRus to buy one, only to realise they don't even sell it. I guess that I might have to purchase it online, which means I'll have to pay for shipping. YAY!
Zerobricks Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I just went to my local toy store, asked to see their catalog, and then searched for the set. unfortunately, I couldn't find it. Apparently, Lego is not realeasing it to small businesses. which sucks because I don't want to drive 4 hours to the nearest ToyRus to buy one, only to realise they don't even sell it. I guess that I might have to purchase it online, which means I'll have to pay for shipping. YAY! What about calling the ToyRus and ask before you go there? I also doubt I will get one here in Slovenia, its such a small country and this is going to be very exclusive.
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