42056 - Porsche Speculation

[promobricks]

Today an unboxing video from the Porsche goes online:

(YouTube Channel of BrickNerd)

looks gooood!

[MRP_]

Here's the embedded version if anyone wants

Just finished watching, interesting packaging, putting bags in boxes in a box. Odd they'd print a specific "module" on the box, but have multiple modules in the box, and still have all the bags labeled the same, confusing...

Edited May 24, 2016 by MRP_

[Rishab N]

Wondering if anyone else is in the same dilemma as me. I want to dislike the Porsche as it is flawed in so many ways for the price point, from the bad steering angle, the gaps in the front, the vomit colored chassis, and the odd gearbox system, but I simply can't. Something keeps drawing me back to this car,it not sure what it is. Opening the box seems like a ceremony with the book, wheels, and the coffee table book, which is a huge plus for me. Plus the car itself. Its massive, orange and just has a presence as a display model. TLG has really succeeded in buying this car seem like an experience

I'm debating whether this will be a buy for me or not due to these reasons. For 300 dollars I could easily Bricklink a MOC supercar which would look great and have great functions, yet it would not have the same experience of this (flawed) set

Just my 2 cents

Edited May 24, 2016 by Rishab N

[MRP_]

Well it's good to know I'm not alone, I agree with you completely. I used to think I wanted it for the parts, but after thinking about it, and realising the rims are'nt compatible with any other tires, I no longer know why I want it so bad, yet it's still number 1 on my wish list...

[dhc6twinotter]

I wonder how much Mobile had to pay for that bit of Mobile 1 advertising?

[allanp]

You don't always have to be able to quantify why you want something. Not everything can be reduced to a mathematical equaltion like that. I personally don't think the awesome new wheels and rather nice box are worth the price of the set but that's just me. If you want it then buy it and enjoy it and don't let the nay-sayers tell you otherwise

[MRP_]

You know, with everyone talking about the bad functions, I think I'm going to build the body, and just stick it on a 9398 chassis with some XL motors, and just be done with the gearboxes and steering angles. I kind of think it would be hilarious if everyone just took this, and treated it as we treat the unimog, and just cover it with atatchments, and stick motors in it and add PTOs and pneumatic systems, just to screw with TLG

And also all the non technic guys on the forum now I think about it

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[JGW3000]

A Porsche with a plow and pneumatic crane. Epic!

[sm1995]

Haven't been able to keep up with all the discussion going on here, but I'm finally free for the summer so I'm back in the Lego business

I still like this set, despite it being a set of many missed opportunities. These are my main gripes with it for anyone who cares

The wheels not having an axle hole and needing custom sized tires is a huge bummer.

4 reverse gears? really?

The new wheel hubs were designed to hold the brake "calipers" yet they're just bricks with stickers on them. If you're gonna go through all that trouble to design new hubs why not just make the brakes a bit more authentic looking?

The suspension is very unrealistic and rear wheel steering is a pretty important feature in this car, which they completely skipped. Yet the dampers are red, because yay authenticity

The box is unnecessarily fancy, would rather pay less and get a bog standard box.

The rear end of the car is ugly ( but the rest of the bodywork is beautiful )

The color isn't lava orange. It's more like RS orange ( signature color of the 997 generation) or continental orange. But it's a welcome change from all the red supercars TLC has been putting out over the years.

$300 seems a bit too steep but then again, I'm gonna wait for jim's review and then decide. If the wheels and the fenders become available through TLC customer service/pick brick the chance of me getting this set will be even lower.

[nerdsforprez]

Wondering if anyone else is in the same dilemma as me. I want to dislike the Porsche as it is flawed in so many ways for the price point, from the bad steering angle, the gaps in the front, the vomit colored chassis, and the odd gearbox system, but I simply can't. Something keeps drawing me back to this car,it not sure what it is. Opening the box seems like a ceremony with the book, wheels, and the coffee table book, which is a huge plus for me. Plus the car itself. Its massive, orange and just has a presence as a display model. TLG has really succeeded in buying this car seem like an experience

I'm debating whether this will be a buy for me or not due to these reasons. For 300 dollars I could easily Bricklink a MOC supercar which would look great and have great functions, yet it would not have the same experience of this (flawed) set

Just my 2 cents

This is a terrific response. I feel the same way. But I also recognize the need to not over think this type of stuff. Hobbies are not always rational. I made this remark on the Porsche Pricing thread..... that if we were rational about all the things we do that make us happy we would never engage in those things. Vacations? Ridiculously priced! (most of the time). I scuba dive. I love it. I have a dream diving with great white sharks. Rational? Hell no. But I am still going to do is someday. No doubt. I was at a bar the other weekend and ordered a 18$ beer. Rational? Not a chance..... but I enjoyed it immensely. That getaway weekend with my wife and the childcare expenses to boot? Good gosh......not financially wise at all (from a purely dollars and sense perspective). Darn Blakbird has introduced me to Porcher models...... $800 bucks for a die-cast-plastic hybrid model? You gotta be kidding me! But you bet I am gonna buy one....

Getting out of our "rational" mind can even be fun in and of itself. Entertainment wasn't ever supposed to be "rational" -- Go ahead and get the Porsche. I know I am..... even if it doesn't make pure financial sense.....

[Kman860]

You know, with everyone talking about the bad functions, I think I'm going to build the body, and just stick it on a 9398 chassis with some XL motors, and just be done with the gearboxes and steering angles. I kind of think it would be hilarious if everyone just took this, and treated it as we treat the unimog, and just cover it with atatchments, and stick motors in it and add PTOs and pneumatic systems, just to screw with TLG

And also all the non technic guys on the forum now I think about it

:devil: Also, plus one to nerdsforprez.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Kman860

[Lipko]

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Getting out of our "rational" mind can even be fun in and of itself. Entertainment wasn't ever supposed to be "rational" -- Go ahead and get the Porsche. I know I am..... even if it doesn't make pure financial sense.....

If the Porsche would stand alone in the Lego world, I would just buy it. The "problem" with your argument that there are many other awesome sets in the 2016 2h lineup to pick from. I can buy another set for 99.9% or building fun (of 100.1%, who can say that in advance?) but for much less money. All the small issues with the model decrease its value in my eyes, compared to the other sets in the lineup. Pretty much the only thing the Porsche offers the other models don't is the orange parts (and still too many parts will be missing from the palette).

Edited May 25, 2016 by Lipko

[Victor Imaginator]

What i think about this Porsche... When i want to get just fed - i'll just buy some simple food, but when i want to eat something delicious - i'll spend 10x money more for same mass of food, and then i cook it, and then i eat it with my wife, and it is something remarkable. I just never think like "is it really worth that money?", i fulfill my wishes. Every time me and my wife buying some large LEGO sets, we doing it together, we also get some delicious and spending whole day at the kitchen unpacking, building, eating, talking and enjoying whole process... No matter how much money was spended, for what they are if not to spend?)

edit: typo

Edited May 25, 2016 by Victor Imaginator

[jura93]

I wonder how much Mobile had to pay for that bit of Mobile 1 advertising?

Mobile 1 is the offical partner of Porsche, they pay for Porsche :)

[AkiyamaWataru]

The problem here is the hype and the expactations it generated. I for myself am in fear of being heavily disappointed. Maybe this will lay when the first reviews arrive, but for now I am full of doubt. I have been getting on my wifes nerves with the porsche since nuremburg toy fair. And now.... I don't know! It's not the money. For christs sake if i would only look on money, I would not build with Lego.

All this information about the limited steering angle and so on can lead to uncertainties and doubt, wether this is a good set or not. Hell for packaging and looks it is! For functions? I don't know. And that is the killer point for me. A set has to look good and function well. I for a point like 42039 and dislike it for the automation of wrong parts (Door-Opening as an example)

edit: typos

Edited May 25, 2016 by AkiyamaWataru

[Didumos69]

You don't always have to be able to quantify why you want something. Not everything can be reduced to a mathematical equaltion like that. I personally don't think the awesome new wheels and rather nice box are worth the price of the set but that's just me. If you want it then buy it and enjoy it and don't let the nay-sayers tell you otherwise

...

Getting out of our "rational" mind can even be fun in and of itself. Entertainment wasn't ever supposed to be "rational" -- Go ahead and get the Porsche. I know I am..... even if it doesn't make pure financial sense.....

I have ever read - in the magazine Psyche - that it makes sense to make a rational decision about what color of socks you should buy. For anything more advanced it's an illusion to think you can make a rational decision. We make many subconscious considerations we cannot rationalize. Better trust your gut feeling...

Edited May 25, 2016 by Didumos69

[Anio]

All this information about the limited steering angle

I built the model and I do not consider this as a pitfall.

It appears that the model suffers of other major pitfalls. So big that I am still wondering if it is not me.

I am in touch with some guys (Jim, Sariel, answer me !!!) who built the model too, and I hope to hear from them very soon.

I prefer not to say too much in public about it for now.

Cause if I am wrong, then I would look like an idiot.

If I am right, it is better to wait for the reviews, to explain the problems with photos.

[AkiyamaWataru]

It appears that the model suffers of other major pitfalls. So big that I am still wondering if it is not me.

It was only an example. But I still am in doubt wether it is good or not (not worth it!). I will wait for the reviews.

[Vectormatic]

Wondering if anyone else is in the same dilemma as me. I want to dislike the Porsche as it is flawed in so many ways for the price point, from the bad steering angle, the gaps in the front, the vomit colored chassis, and the odd gearbox system, but I simply can't. Something keeps drawing me back to this car,it not sure what it is. Opening the box seems like a ceremony with the book, wheels, and the coffee table book, which is a huge plus for me. Plus the car itself. Its massive, orange and just has a presence as a display model. TLG has really succeeded in buying this car seem like an experience

I'm debating whether this will be a buy for me or not due to these reasons. For 300 dollars I could easily Bricklink a MOC supercar which would look great and have great functions, yet it would not have the same experience of this (flawed) set

Just my 2 cents

Im very much on the fence myself, im not a porsche fan (huge car nut, but the 911 really isnt my thing), and there are quite some flaws with this model, not to mention the price (€330 here). For that amount of money i can buy 3 decent sized cars like 42000 and 42039, both of which i had a ton of fun modding, and they do hold their own as a display model (especially after some mods)

But this set is indeed rather unique in terms of size and experience... I wonder if ill end up kicking myself in a few years if i dont get it

[Kumbbl]

Probably there were too high expectations for this first "ultimate" technic model and probably the model will disappoint a lot of people at least them who have already built such great suoercar MOCs of nathanael kuipers, Paul, Pvdb and others. We all expected TLG to show us "where the hammer hangs" concerning designing a supercar... Well, maybe TLG failed. Well, but who cares? I for myself not because i'm 100% sure that one or more of outstanding technic MOCers will use the new valuable parts of the Porsche (mudgards, frictionless driving ring connectors etc) to make at least a MOD which adresses the pitfalls of 42056 or even a complete new supercar MOC using these new parts. And to be able to build these forthcoming MODs or MOCs i will Need the 42056 and rherefore i will buy one, at least one ;-), regardless of the verdicts of the forthcoming reviews... And i am sure that i will not regret it...regardless how good or bad the Porsche out of the box is...

Just my 2ct

[stevenhalim]

Well, if you use Google Search of "Lego 42056" and restrict the result to "the past 24 hours" now (25 May, 4.42pm SGT), you will already able to see some very detailed building sequence of the chassis...

I am liking what I see as I have never built Technic supercar of this scale (8070 and all other previous Technic supercars were released before I return from dark age and have some disposable income for this hobby).

Apparently it will be 549 SGD here according to one local/Singapore Lego Certified store (397 USD/357 Euro...) and available by end of June.

To quote Kumbbl last post, I will rely on other outstanding technic MOCers out there to improve whatever negative stuffs of this set, like Leviathan's other post about better sequential gearbox (thanks :D).

To build such MOCs/MODs based on 42056 (I don't have that many orange elements), I will need at least one 42056 set, so here goes my 549 SGD Lego...

[Cwetqo]

I'm not worried about driving rings, but wheels and mudguards will be a difficult to get. Both are meant for big cars (1:8) and I dont see next one coming anytime soon. Wheels will be ven harder to get, becuae ot the licence (no LugBulk or similar).

[charlesw]

First "unboxing" :

Edited May 25, 2016 by charlesw

[Jim]

I really wonder why the entire world is already sharing images, videos, etc.

[allanp]

I really wonder why the entire world is already sharing images, videos, etc.

Whooops! In trying to reply to this I accidentally pressed the report button!

Anywho, I guess us Technic fans are just a more loyal bunch of folk than the others