42056 - Porsche Speculation

[MRP_]

42053 I think he means

Are you guys still looking for pics of the excavator?

Just btw there is a dedicated thread for that, so you should probably ask there.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

One Servo to switch gears and one XL to drive will make the effect of gear changing more visible.

[Didumos69]

Speaking of which

Quite like it though...way better than the 599 they did few years back

Steering angle doesn't seem that disappointing...

The video shows an overall gear rack travel that seems to be slightly more than the supposed 1.0 stud (from left to right), probably because of some slack in the gear rack stoppers, which would be perfectly normal.

Edited May 26, 2016 by Didumos69

[legolijntje]

The hell. Everyone and their grandma is getting a review sample or what?

That's why the Porsche is so expensive. Halve of their customer-base already has one, so they have to compensate

[Jim]

That's why the Porsche is so expensive. Halve of their customer-base already has one, so they have to compensate

[jura93]

+ pictures to the unboxing video

http://jaysbrickblog.com/2016/05/26/lego-technic-42056-porsche-911-gt3-rs-unboxing/

Edited May 26, 2016 by jura93

[Cumulonimbus]

I must admit that the more photos I see of the 42056, the longer my MOD wish list becomes. I still think it is an amazing set, but as pointed put by so many before, a lot of features are just not quite accurate enough or are just a missed opportunity. So far I’m thinking about:

- Reduce the color vomit (don’t see the point of red and yellow axles inside)

- Make the back less angular

- Try front McPherson suspension (maybe with Efferman custom parts?), preferably with proper suspension geometry

- Reduce the gaps beneath the headlights

- Tweak the proportions a bit, for example by reducing the length of the nose slightly

- Explore the possibilities of rear wheel steering

[Bob De Quatre]

The hell. Everyone and their grandma is getting a review sample or what?

That's why the Porsche is so expensive. Halve of their customer-base already has one, so they have to compensate

That could also apply to the Assault on Hoth...

[BachAddict]

I don't suppose there's anyone in Hamburg that wants a used one on the 2nd of June? I'm travelling so I'll have difficulty taking the one I inevitably buy from the shop across the road from my hostel...

[AttentionSpanner]

Hi, I just found this picture online by accident while on Google...

[nerdsforprez]

I must admit that the more photos I see of the 42056, the longer my MOD wish list becomes. I still think it is an amazing set, but as pointed put by so many before, a lot of features are just not quite accurate enough or are just a missed opportunity. So far I’m thinking about:

- Reduce the color vomit (don’t see the point of red and yellow axles inside)

Can someone please explain to me the concern of "color vomit" inside a chassis? It is not seen. I don't get why it is an issue. Sure, it would look better monochromatic, but if it is not seen in the final product...... so is it really something to gripe about? It is not specific to this set or even Technic. SW UCS sets are infamous for their "color vomit" chassis - like R2D2, and other sets. Anyone a SW fan out there? Do SW fans get all upset with a polychromatic chassis? Or is the complaining just a technic thing......

[Bob De Quatre]

Can someone please explain to me the concern of "color vomit" inside a chassis? It is not seen. I don't get why it is an issue. Sure, it would look better monochromatic, but if it is not seen in the final product...... so is it really something to gripe about? It is not specific to this set or even Technic. SW UCS sets are infamous for their "color vomit" chassis - like R2D2, and other sets. Anyone a SW fan out there? Do SW fans get all upset with a polychromatic chassis? Or is the complaining just a technic thing......

The problem for SW UCS, and its the same for Technics I guess, is when the "color vomit" chassis can be seen from the outside of the model

[tomek9210]

Can anyone explain why is there second 8 tooth gear near knobs? It is not connected to anything.

[Cumulonimbus]

Can someone please explain to me the concern of "color vomit" inside a chassis? It is not seen. I don't get why it is an issue. Sure, it would look better monochromatic, but if it is not seen in the final product...... so is it really something to gripe about? It is not specific to this set or even Technic. SW UCS sets are infamous for their "color vomit" chassis - like R2D2, and other sets. Anyone a SW fan out there? Do SW fans get all upset with a polychromatic chassis? Or is the complaining just a technic thing......

Take it easy, I have always tried to defend the 42056 here, but I hope I can allow myself some suggestions to improve it. I will try to explain why I'm not a big fan of too much colour variations in a model:

First: I like the contrast between the exterior and the mechanisms and structure underneath. Bodywork can be any color you like, but in a chassis or a structure I like to see colour choices based on function. For example a DBG chassis, LBG mechanisms and black power trains. This is a very personal preference.

Secondly, to me, bright colors in the structure or the mechanism shout out "this is important". In earlier sets this principle has been used to indicate manual inputs (switches, knobs and cranks), or detachable connections (Unimog couplings for example). My problem with the phenomenon now known as colour vomit is that now too many things shout "I'm important" while they really aren't, leading to a restless impression. In brick-build structures (like SW as you mention) this is not really that big problem, but the see-through character of Technic models lead to a less strong impression.

To be more concrete: why are some parts of the supporting structure orange, why is the steering axle towards the front axle yellow, why are the internal 1/2L bushings yellow? At the same time the interior of the 42056 is mostly black, further highlighting all bright colors of parts around it. The interior itself should get all the attention not some random axle or connector which just happens to be in view.

Edited May 26, 2016 by Cumulonimbus

[AttentionSpanner]

I must admit that the more photos I see of the 42056, the longer my MOD wish list becomes. I still think it is an amazing set, but as pointed put by so many before, a lot of features are just not quite accurate enough or are just a missed opportunity. So far I’m thinking about:

- Reduce the color vomit (don’t see the point of red and yellow axles inside)

- Make the back less angular

- Try front McPherson suspension (maybe with Efferman custom parts?), preferably with proper suspension geometry

- Reduce the gaps beneath the headlights

- Tweak the proportions a bit, for example by reducing the length of the nose slightly

- Explore the possibilities of rear wheel steering

I would guess that the "colour-vomit" is more for easily identifying some of the pieces (connectors, knob wheels etc) than anything else... This would make sense for an audience of mostly children, but for a top-of-the-range model, out of reach budget-wise for most parents, it doesn't make much sense to me either... And I agree with the rest of your points... I mean, Sheepo managed to make a McPherson setup in his MPS, how difficult could it possibly be for LEGO? At least they bothered to make a paddle gearbox, I guess...

[Jim]

Can anyone explain why is there second 8 tooth gear near knobs? It is not connected to anything.

To generate more friction/resistance I suppose. I have seen this technique used in other sets as well.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

I can't help but feel that the use of the 5x11 frame is ingenious!

[BrickWild]

Hi, I just found this picture online by accident while on Google...

I've saved the rest of those pics before they were taken down!

[allanp]

To generate more friction/resistance I suppose. I have seen this technique used in other sets as well.

From what I can see, the new axle connectors have no ridges to hold the drive ring in place, so it relies on the gear change lever to keep it from popping out of gear. Maybe the extra friction is there to prevent the cranks turning enabling the car to pop out of gear.

[DrJB]

From what I can see, the new axle connectors have no ridges to hold the drive ring in place, so it relies on the gear change lever to keep it from popping out of gear. Maybe the extra friction is there to prevent the cranks turning enabling the car to pop out of gear.

Not quite. The axle connector was modified, but so was the new driving ring. As such, the latter cannot slide freely on the new axle holder but only assume 3 discrete positions. For everyone else's benefit, we're talking about old/new axle connectors + driving gears, as pictured below.

+vs. +

Edited May 26, 2016 by DrJB

[Didumos69]

Not quite. The axle connector was modified, but so was the new driving ring. As such, the latter cannot slide freely on the new axle holder but only assume 3 discrete positions. For everyone else's benefit, we're talking about old/new axle connectors + driving gears, as pictured below.

Not quite . The Porsche has even newer axle connectors without ridges to make peddle shifting more smooth (snapshot from official video):

Edited May 26, 2016 by Didumos69

[DrJB]

Looks like I was hibernating for years and then, a new part?

[charlesw]

Not quite . The Porsche has even newer axle connectors without ridges to make peddle shifting more smooth (snapshot from official video):

This might stay exclusive to the porsche since the 901 is a clear reference to the 911 type 901.

Edited May 26, 2016 by charlesw

[Didumos69]

This might stay exclusive to the porsche since the 901 is a clear reference to the 911 type 901.

At the same time it hints the next ultimate set having this part: a Peugeot 106 (Maxi)

Edited May 26, 2016 by Didumos69

[Lipko]

This might stay exclusive to the porsche since the 901 is a clear reference to the 911 type 901.

new 3L connector + sand paper. Has anybody tried it?

Edited May 26, 2016 by Lipko