75098 Assault on Hoth

[1974]

Mates, that joke is on you!

Indeed it is, however none of us finds it funny 'cept you it seems

A couple of big moulded anmals is not what makes a UCS set. Heck, even if TLG didn't use that moniker it still is a rather poor set compared the last bunch Hoth offerings lumped together

I guess the boob gun is the A(male)FOL part here?

But at least I can sell my Bacta Luke for silly money now, thanx TLG

[Jbricks]

Designing a play set got to be a pretty thankless job. So this set is just a collection of already released sets, but OMG why is the sickbay missing?! We want new figures, but but HOW DARE THEY put in new ION CANNON GIRL instead of little princess who, let's face it, does NOTHING other than even missing her own fricking designated transport

OR maybe they could have included BOTH? Especially at such a high price!

Edited February 16, 2016 by Jbricks

[MartinCliffe]

My only 2 complaints about the minifigures are that there should be at least 2 more snowtroopers (not much of an "assault"!) and that Han should have been swapped with Leia (even though I already have Hoth Leia from the Echo Base set so it doesn't worry me). I wish it didn't carry the UCS label, not because it does or doesn't deserve it, but just so the UCS snobs would stop going on about it. Did we need another Snowspeeder? No, but the pilots are welcome, even if they look like the Microfighter pilots. Would an AT-ST be welcome (even if they weren't in the theatrical version of ESB)? Of course, we've not had an AT-ST for far too long.

It's really hard to judge the size and scale of the thing from the pictures, but I worked out from one of the hi-res images that the blast door build is about 50 studs wide and 11 bricks high, which is pretty impressive in my book, and will fit my custom significantly extended 7879 well, and look about right in my 128x96 stud Hoth diorama. So while I have a few reservations, and will certainly look to make some minor modifications to the build, I'll definitely be picking this up as close to Day 1 as possible.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

I think the greatest highlight of this set in my eyes is the box art!

As for the set, I say it was completely unnecessary to "wedge" in a full on 200+ pieces Snowspeeder, especially since the "solo" release of that particular vehicle set isn't really that dated (except the basic design being around 12 YEARS OLD! (it's really broke so fix it). It would have been interesting if they designed a downscaled version of the Snowspeeder like they did for the TIE advance in the deathstar playset—then they could actually include two of those, or one and a downscaled X-Wing, or alternatively, like as many have said, include an AT-ST walker, or even a rebel transport ship because the ion cannon has to protect it anyway, duh?

Now as for the base and the lack thereof. I believe there should have been a greater focus on the base than the array and emplacement of turrets, trenches, and even shield generator, which all could have been released in a separate set or sets, because literally the presentation feels scattered—it doesn't translate well in this set. For an example, turrets and trenches could have been released in battle packs. The shield generator seems completely illogical for the apparent attempting assault of two snowtroopers, a speederbike, and an oversized laser spider. Therefore, I see it entirely appropriate and a wonderful excuse, to include in a set of a newly designed AT-AT for the walker to destroy—because that is basically the plot from the film!

Then for the interior of the base I can only "echo" what others had said, there should have been medical room, recreation room, a hanger, the list goes on, etc.

On last note it would have been exciting to see this set on par with the Temple of Airjitzu set—loaded with levels of play features and other things!

Edited February 16, 2016 by LiLmeFromDaFuture

[wesker]

Designing a play set got to be a pretty thankless job. So this set is just a collection of already released sets, but OMG why is the sickbay missing?! We want new figures, but but HOW DARE THEY put in new ION CANNON GIRL instead of little princess who, let's face it, does NOTHING other than even missing her own fricking designated transport.

Who's complaining about Toryn Farr? Yeah some of us are disapointed Leia is excluded considering she's the main heroine of the movie, but that's not at the expense of Toryn. At the price they're charging the set for there's no reason why both women couldn't be included.

If any minifigure had to be switched out for Leia, I would've gone with either one of the Rebel Troopers or Han considering they're both already available in another Hoth themed set thats just recently been released.

[YellowCorvette]

Oversized? Judging by the formidable size of the rebel force they are about to encounter I think they are going to need an even bigger gun!

What I mean is by according to the size and accuracy of the E-Web Cannon in the movie.

[Markalus]

What I mean is by according to the size and accuracy of the E-Web Cannon in the movie.

Don't worry, I know what you meant and I agree. I was being facitious regarding the underwhelming imperial "assault" force in the set. I probably should have made that more clear.

[Staslegomaster]

I really haven't seen such a detailed Hoth set before. But the price is astronomical.

[Vindicare]

Yeah...big let down here. The only redeeming factors are the Ion cannon & shield generator. The new prints are nice as well...but not for $250... Bummer.

[Peasantseverywhere]

@Beckmesser

You sound pretty salty about the amount of critique thats coming towards the set.

Cant stand that Lego fans dont hype up yet another overprized and underwhelming set to heaven like many of them do a lot of times?

Its obvious that you havent read the critique and if you did you probably just read what you wanted to read.

And judging by our agressive tone its probably pointless to even argue with you.

Btw: Who cares about a Tauntaun or a Wampa that already exist or a white protocol droid. Those minor elements by themselves are not what make a big set like this great...

I think what everyone needs to remember is that these are just people's opinions. Just because some one likes a set that you don't does not mean that they are just annoyed at the lack of hype and would be willing to hype a set just because it has a Star Wars logo banged onto the box. I think anyone who has an opinion on this set will already have been a fan of Lego long enough to form their own respectable opinion that is completely down to them. I have previously voiced my positive opinions on this set so won't be doing so again but I just wanted to input my thoughts on these constant comments referring to the the disagreement between peoples opinions.

[belkor]

Having had a few days to think about it, I do really like it as a playset (speaking as someone with only 75049, 75054 & 75138 in my collection). The blast doors are fantastic, and the minifigs all look the part (even though they aren't using some of TLGs latest techniques like dual molded legs and such). The problem is the price point they've opted for is too high for something that lacks the wow factor and attention to detail we'd expect from a UCS model.

The opportunity cost of this set for me is simply too high. I could buy it, but I wouldn't feel good about it. Which of course is my problem, not LEGOs....

Edited February 16, 2016 by belkor

[Brickinho]

I love the Battle of Hoth in Episode V, I haven't got any of the previous Hoth sets. But I don't like this one. A 250 € Lego set shouldn't look like a "best of Hoth" compilation.

[bootz]

Who's complaining about Toryn Farr? Yeah some of us are disapointed Leia is excluded considering she's the main heroine of the movie, but that's not at the expense of Toryn. At the price they're charging the set for there's no reason why both women couldn't be included.

If any minifigure had to be switched out for Leia, I would've gone with either one of the Rebel Troopers or Han considering they're both already available in another Hoth themed set thats just recently been released.

Exactly, I would have expected Leia and Chewie in addition to what we got, not at the expense of it. Personally, I would only sub out some Rebels for more Snowtroopers.

[BigEl]

I think what everyone needs to remember is that these are just people's opinions. Just because some one likes a set that you don't does not mean that they are just annoyed at the lack of hype and would be willing to hype a set just because it has a Star Wars logo banged onto the box. I think anyone who has an opinion on this set will already have been a fan of Lego long enough to form their own respectable opinion that is completely down to them. I have previously voiced my positive opinions on this set so won't be doing so again but I just wanted to input my thoughts on these constant comments referring to the the disagreement between peoples opinions.

As far as I am concerned there was no problem with the different opinions of people here in the thread. Go trough the pages again but I am pretty sure noone got "assaulted" for their opinion on this set.

And then read Beckmessers Post again. I responded to him because it was the first post here that was agressive and unreasonable towards the ones that dislike this set (doesnt matter to me if thats the majority or minority)

[brainless]

How embarrassing.

Your whole post is embarrassing. You said "no reason to go on a ridiculous rant." but started a ridiculous rant about other people's opinion.

[Richpepperell]

Finally got around to watching the designers video - even the two designers don't seem to be too sure about this set!

[ChiefPie]

Finally got around to watching the designers video - even the two designers don't seem to be too sure about this set!

Do you have the link for the video?

[bootz]

Finally got around to watching the designers video - even the two designers don't seem to be too sure about this set!

Because they barely did anything new. They essentially just modded older sets.

And as to the other topic brewing, we're allowed to express our opinions, no one has disparaged anyone who wants the set, it seems the rude comments are only going the other way, as I'd were not allowed to criticize a set supposedly indented for adult collectors. All criticisms have been valid, I'd say, but no one is saying "don't buy this set and you're an idiot if you do." I would absolutely want this at a different price point, but at $250 it's money that could be better spent on other sets I've wanted.

[bjorn77]

The two potential SW Lego sets that has always been on the top of my wish list is:

1. UCS AT-AT

2. UCS Hoth Base

With the release of this set, I now know I will never get any of those. Maybe after a year's mourning, I will cough up the money and buy this set. I don't even think it's that awful, it's jus tnot at all what I had hoped for. But for now: :cry3: .

[Forresto]

Why did they not increase the price to $350 and just include the AT-AT from last year or AT-ST? I would rather pay $100 dollars more if that meant we got five more figures unique and available only to this set as well as more of a base or Imperial assault?

Imagine if you will this as well as an extended base of batch/medical room, real control center, some tunnels, larger shield generator, an AT-ST, and five additional minifigures (Leia, Medical droid, snowy chewbacca, AT-ST Pilot, and another Snowtrooper) for $100 dollars more? Chances are if you're willing to pay $250 for this you would be willing to pay $350 if that meant it came with some kickass additional features. Immediately most of our problems with the set would disappear.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Forresto

[L E G O]

I still can't understand Lego's thinking on this. Even if we ignore the huge price and accept that a UCS set can be a play set (a la Sandcrawler and Death Star) then is this a good (ultimate) play set? It missing key elements of pretty much all of the scenes on Hoth so what exactly are you supposed to play at? Leia's day off? Minor skirmish on Hoth? Sneaky Empire shrinks Ion gun and shield generator? Without an AT-ST and a few more stormtroopers there just doesn't seem to be much to do.

[Zoshi]

The degree of entitlement, mixed with real or pretended cluelessness regarding LEGO design style is amazing

I've never understood the argument that a person is "entitled" for not liking a product. It's not like TLG is handing us this set on a silver platter, we have to consider paying for this, out of money we've had to work for. Shouldn't we be able to say if we think the quality isn't up to par? Are reviewers, critics, etc. "entitled" too?

[Beckmesser]

I'm not sure that I really understand the hate here- IMHO Star Wars fans aren't satisfied with anything.

That's one half of the problem. The other is that webforum LEGO fans always know EXACTLY how TLG should have designed something, and if TLG went a different way then it is clearly a bad set, right? Right?! And too expensive, with the wrong minifigures, too many stickers ... but all this goes without saying anyway.

Then you have the typical dynamic of QQ threads with the tendency to attract more entitled little whiners who love to see their sentiments echoed page after page, and hate nothing more than to be suddenly called out on their unqualified one-liner comments (most in the ballpark of "the clouds are .. too cloudy! Epic fail").

My personal favorites were those two people posting pictures of other Hoth builds, one a chunk of white bricks looking nothing like a LEGO set, the other some microbuild diorama - that's not even apples and oranges, not even close.

Nah, people have their precious opinions, and they can keep them. I'm glad the set is not larger, because I do not want to pay premium licensed set-prices on two buckets full of white basic bricks for the epic snowscape some rich people here seem to be expecting.

I'm going to wait for reviews from qualified people who have the actual set ON HAND and know what they are talking about.

[Forresto]

That's one half of the problem. The other is that webforum LEGO fans always know EXACTLY how TLG should have designed something, and if TLG went a different way then it is clearly a bad set, right? Right?! And too expensive, with the wrong minifigures, too many stickers ... but all this goes without saying anyway.

Then you have the typical dynamic of QQ threads with the tendency to attract more entitled little whiners who love to see their sentiments echoed page after page, and hate nothing more than to be suddenly called out on their unqualified one-liner comments (most in the ballpark of "the clouds are .. too cloudy! Epic fail").

My personal favorites were those two people posting pictures of other Hoth builds, one a chunk of white bricks looking nothing like a LEGO set, the other some microbuild diorama - that's not even apples and oranges, not even close.

Nah, people have their precious opinions, and they can keep them. I'm glad the set is not larger, because I do not want to pay premium licensed set-prices on two buckets full of white basic bricks for the epic snowscape some rich people here seem to be expecting.

I'm going to wait for reviews from qualified people who have the actual set ON HAND and know what they are talking about.

You must be fun at parties Seriously you can basically tell what the set is like from the pictures and besides the key word is OPNION. You get annoyed by them why are you even posting in this topic. I'm not begrudging you your 'precious' opinion on this but it seems a bit silly to me. i'm just saying

Edited February 16, 2016 by Forresto

[bjorkan]

I am absolutely sure - Lego knows that ultimate collectors will always have the money m.