71040 The Disney Castle Discussion

[legonerd54321]

Couldn't they do something like this:

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Original creator

but include interior details somehow? Perhaps end up building it on a hinge that opens? Or make it so some sections open or have doors here and there? I am not saying go this massive or this detailed as that likely wouldn't be possible but something similar at least.

Jeez, I'd hate to see the price tag on that.

[Tech Artist]

That model would probably cost upwards of a thousand dollars if sold as a set. I expect this Cinderella castle to be big, but not that big, and I hope other fans don't get their hopes up based on that picture.

It's not my intention to fool anyone into thinking there going to get a detailed set like that. The price tag would just be unimaginable. I was using it more as a comparison for something similar but with a more reasonable price tag. Think Ghostbusters or the Sydney Opera House. Something detailed but not outrageous. Until we are shown a picture, we won't know for sure what it looks like. This whole thread is just speculation except for what has been confirmed so that is all my post is. Please don't mistake it for anything else.

[Clone OPatra]

Well yes, something quite like that only the front half and much, much smaller.

[brick-fu]

I wish we could get some info from someone who has seen it. Although it may have only been seen within the Lego company at this point. I'm still cautiously optimistic about this set.

[deskp]

It's not my intention to fool anyone into thinking there going to get a detailed set like that. The price tag would just be unimaginable. I was using it more as a comparison for something similar but with a more reasonable price tag. Think Ghostbusters or the Sydney Opera House. Something detailed but not outrageous.

I actually think a normal d2c set has more details than that moc, the moc just has a lot of plain pieces thrown into making it whereas legos sets has more fun techniques, pieces and details. Can't compete with that charm :D

[TAFOL]

I'd rather like it if they'd do a replica of this. Fits more within the LEGO style, IMO.

[0tter]

The front pillar... steeples at most are 4 wide.

It doesn't sound as though it will be very big. I would have liked it to be as tall as the Haunted House. With any luck this one will sell really well and we might see a bigger one, akin to the modulars, in the future.

Even if this one is on the small side, I'm pretty sure I'll be buying it. My wife and I have been talking about how cool a Disney Castle in LEGO would be for a while. My dark age was when the Harry Potter sets came out, and she would have loved a Hogwarts Castle. This will be a nice substitute, regardless of the size.

[xboxtravis7992]

I know I am late to the conversation but I will add my two cents:

1) I am cautious that they chose Disney World's Castle (also in Tokyo) over the other castles Disney has built ( Anaheim/Hong Kong share a design; and Paris is unique). In my opinion the Anaheim building would translate better into Lego, it is smaller and would only have to be the height of a modular building to convince me that it is "the real thing." However the Disney World/Tokyo design in really tall; and would need to be almost a story above a modular building in height to look convincing. However I will admit the interior for Disney World's castle offers more to build in Lego, with a restaurant and an apartment in it. In comparison the Anaheim Castle's interior is a few small show scenes in cramped corridors, not a very interesting interior!

2) I am afraid Lego won't build it to show "forced perspective." Although the top spires of the castle look like they are big enough to house rooms, they are actually rather small. Disney does this with all of their buildings in theme parks, the higher an object the smaller the details will be on it. I fear Lego will try and place interior details inside the upper spires; which would force them to be bigger than they are on the real building. I hope Lego just leaves the spires as small decorative structures, and only place interior details on lower floors.

3) Price tag, I am willing to pay $200 for a set like this. $400 like the Ghostbusters set was? No way Jose!

4) Stepping on my memories... I am actually quite the Disney Theme Park junkie. I have been to Disneyland nearly 10 times in my life (To get there from where I live often requires a 10+ hour drive, so I can't go as often as some people do); and I have also been to Disney World once. I know these parks very well; and I know very well those castles. I would be disappointed if the set was "out of scale" or not proportioned just right. I'd also be disappointed if the set featured 'magic play features' that detract from the fact these are very REAL buildings, and make it seem just as fantastical and whimsical as Lego's previous Hogwart's Castles and Disney Princess Castle's where. If there are play features I want them to make sense in the logic of the real buildings; zip line for a Tinkerbell scene, working drawbridge, etc. Heck, I'd even be okay with a stud shooter to be placed behind the caste to show 'fireworks' like what was done in the Ninjago Temple of Airjitsu. But I don't want to see stuff that doesn't fit the REAL building.

5) Must include tourist figures. OH PLEASE LEGO! I know the idea is to use the castle to showcase the collectible figures, but I really want to see regular Lego figures in licensed skin tones at the castle in tacky t-shirts, with baby strollers, and mickey ears. THIS is the Disney experience I know, it is REAL people visiting a REAL place where through the wonders of technology and showmanship it feels like entering something Magical. The real Disney magic is their mastery of engineering, artistry, stage craft, and illusions; not pixie dust and fairy godmothers. I want to see those tourists. I want to see a mother and father taking pictures of their kids standing next to an actress dressed as Cinderella in front of her castle. I want to see an overpriced churro cart next to the castle gate. I want to see a garbage can in fancy paint next to some benches. And most importantly I want to see a statue of Walt and Mickey, cast in bronze overlooking the plaza in front of the castle. In a way despite the name of the castle I have never seen it as Cinderella's Castle (nor Sleeping Beauty's in Anaheim); it is WALT's castles. He is the man who envisioned a way to turn fantasy into reality. He was the man who assembled a team of artists and engineers who built such wonders. (Not to mention he DIED before Disney World was completed, giving a bitter sweet feeling to the park). So yes, please put a statue in front of the castle, and an over eager family of tourists visiting! Please!! Honestly if the set doesn't even come with Cinderella, but instead has that statue, Mickey, and some tourists; I'd be a happy camper!

I know that was a long rant, but I am a bit of a Disney park's fan boy so forgive me for it. I am excited to see this set and hope it lives up to even half my hopes for it! Sorry if it was a bit off putting to anybody, but I just had to say it!

Cinderella's Castle at Walt Disney World is iconic for so many reasons. Sleeping Beauty's Castle at Disneyland isn't for other reasons. Disneyland is the older attraction, but in the beginning it was a failure.

Also sorry to pull this quote up; but being the fan boy I am I can't let this slide. Actually Disneyland was a rip-roaring success money wise from DAY ONE. The failures of the early park had less to do with money, and more to do with technical issues, such as temperatures so hot in the summer it caused the asphalt roads laid in the park TO MELT (Hence the reason all Disney parks use concrete roads now), or the lack of drinking fountains.. But Disneyland had crowds from day one all the way to the present, it only took Walt Disney a few years of income from Disneyland to pay off all the loans and investors that he relied on to build the park. Another sign of Disneyland's quick success is the famous people who visited it in its early DAYS of operation; take for example the fact George Lucas's parents took him to see the park, on only its SECOND day open!

It was actually Disney World that failed its opening (as mentioned in the book Realityland where I am sourcing this from). The Disney Corporation was afraid of another technical disaster like the one they had in California decades earlier, hence the reason they opened the park in September, hoping to avoid large crowds. Instead they had almost NO crowds at all. At the time Florida had not yet developed into a "vacation destination" as it is now, and many of the elderly retirees living there had little interest in theme parks. It took Disney a while to draw the crowds! Of course with time; in part thanks to Disney's development there, Orlando became a destination, and there is no doubt it is a rip roaring success in the modern day.

But the openings of both parks 60 and 45 years ago has little to do with the current FAME of both locations. The Magic Kingdom in Disney World has 19 MILLION visitors annually, the original Disneyland has 16 Million annual visitors too, despite its smaller size. Both are giant successes. Along side them is also Tokyo Disneyland with 17 Million visitors per year (perhaps a good reason to base the model on the Disney World castle though is that the Tokyo Castle is a carbon copy of the Florida one). If there is any reason to choose Cinderella's Castle over Sleeping Beauty it is the walloping 36 MILLION people who visit either the Florida or Tokyo park each year (In comparison the Sleeping Beauty has less visitors as its other copy in Hong Kong Disneyland is in a park with fewer visitors.)

Edited April 19, 2016 by xboxtravis7992

[Jern92]

I might have missed this while reading through the thread, but when is this coming out again?

[CM4Sci]

Around September

[Soupperson1]

I know I am late to the conversation but I will add my two cents:

5) Must include tourist figures. OH PLEASE LEGO! I know the idea is to use the castle to showcase the collectible figures, but I really want to see regular Lego figures in licensed skin tones at the castle in tacky t-shirts, with baby strollers, and mickey ears. THIS is the Disney experience I know, it is REAL people visiting a REAL place where through the wonders of technology and showmanship it feels like entering something Magical. The real Disney magic is their mastery of engineering, artistry, stage craft, and illusions; not pixie dust and fairy godmothers. I want to see those tourists. I want to see a mother and father taking pictures of their kids standing next to an actress dressed as Cinderella in front of her castle. I want to see an overpriced churro cart next to the castle gate. I want to see a garbage can in fancy paint next to some benches. And most importantly I want to see a statue of Walt and Mickey, cast in bronze overlooking the plaza in front of the castle. In a way despite the name of the castle I have never seen it as Cinderella's Castle (nor Sleeping Beauty's in Anaheim); it is WALT's castles. He is the man who envisioned a way to turn fantasy into reality. He was the man who assembled a team of artists and engineers who built such wonders. (Not to mention he DIED before Disney World was completed, giving a bitter sweet feeling to the park). So yes, please put a statue in front of the castle, and an over eager family of tourists visiting! Please!! Honestly if the set doesn't even come with Cinderella, but instead has that statue, Mickey, and some tourists; I'd be a happy camper!

I fear if we do get tourists we'd only get flesh versions of a boy and a girl from the city park set. Though it would be epic if they added in t-shirts or included those classic Mickey Mouse hats, but that be a new mould. :(

[blackknightrises]

I don't see us getting anything other than the Disney characters.

[Ondra]

I don't see us getting anything other than the Disney characters.

Easy fix, get 2016 set fun in the park

[blackknightrises]

Easy fix, get 2016 set fun in the park

I can't wait for that set! Definitely glad that TLG decided to do that.

[Robert8]

How many minifigures could we expect for this set?

[Amazing Bricks]

If it's anything like the Simpson's d2c sets, then 6 minifigures.

[Brickity]

Were the Ewok village and the Death Star sets D2C? I remember both of them had a s**t ton of minifigs!

[namioik]

Were the Ewok village and the Death Star sets D2C? I remember both of them had a s**t ton of minifigs!

Yes they were. But so was tower bridge and Sydney Oprah house and they got no figures. Comparing apples to apples (Simpsons to Disney because of the collectible minifigure series) history shows that we would get 6 figures, plus or minus.

[KCMatze]

Easy fix, get 2016 set fun in the park

But those would not be licensed fleshy minifigures...

[Ondra]

But those would not be licensed fleshy minifigures...

Is there any licensed park visitor in the world?This sounds to me like nitpicking,

[Blondie-Wan]

But those would not be licensed fleshy minifigures...

It wouldn't be the first time they mixed licensed minifigures in fleshtones and non-specific or LEGO-owned character minifigures in classic yellow in the same set. The 2009 LEGO Racers set 8168 Ferrari Victory features fleshtoned minifigures of real-life professional race car drivers Kimi Raikkonen and Rubens Barrichello alongside a generic yellow-"skinned" race official. And the 2014 The LEGO Movie set 70815 Super Secret Police Dropship features a fleshtoned Batman along with yellow-skinned Emmet, Johnny Thunder and Lloyd Garmadon.

It might sound a little weird, but I could see them doing a set of Cinderella's Castle or some other Disney Parks institution and populating it with a mix of licensed Disney characters in the appropriate flesh tones and park visitors in traditional minifigure yellow.

[KCMatze]

I am not saying that it might not happen. I just don't like the look of a mixed yellow / fleshy scenario in LEGO form. Just look at that Juniors Spidey / Goblin set...that police man does just not fit in...even if no one has fleshy skin in that set. But all other super heroes sets have. So I am just saying that it is really weird.

[0tter]

When can we expect to see some pictures?

[sunhuntin]

I might have missed this while reading through the thread, but when is this coming out again?

toyworld said on their facebook page they arent getting it, so it seems like s@h will be the only way to go, unless farmers or warehouse manage to pick it up.

[notpennysboat]

I hope we're expecting a set as large as Firehouse Headquarters, that would mean we could expect a lot of characters :)