Batman '08

[Vader]

Darn you Sam!!! I was expecting a pic X-D

Glad this has been confirmed, now i just hope the rest of the bat list is correct.

[Batbrick]

Glad this has been confirmed, now i just hope the rest of the bat list is correct.

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I don't, I want this to go the way of the Battank and become:

Robin's Scuba Jet: Attack of the Penguin and manbat!

The Tumbler: The Joker and Mad Hatter's ice cream surprise!

The Batcycle: Harley Quinn, Ra's Al Ghul, Talia Al Ghul, Ubu, Clayface, Ventriloquest, Black Mask, Sal Maroni, Rupert Thorne, Falcone, Green Ivy, Red Hood and Phantasm's Hammer Truck! X-D

Over-the-top, but you get the idea! :'-)

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[Siegfried]

I think I agree. Batman is considered one of the best martial artists of the DCU (it's a contest between him, Batgirl, Connor Hawke and Shiva- I'm not counting Karate Kid as he's from the future DCU, and I'm not counting Prometheus as he downloaded the skills into his cerebral cortex). He's also one of the most intelligent (besides Lex Luthor and Mr Terrific). He's the ultimate sum of his parts- detective and fighter.

Yes, that is how I feel. *sweet*

Does anyone else think that the Rock Raiders monster somewhat resembles Clayface? If TLC doesn't do him in a licensed set, one could use that instead...

I never thought of that. I wanted one of those already, but now I want one even more! :-P

The Batcycle: Harley Quinn, Ra's Al Ghul, Talia Al Ghul, Ubu, Clayface, Ventriloquest, Black Mask, Sal Maroni, Rupert Thorne, Falcone, Green Ivy, Red Hood and Phantasm's Hammer Truck! X-D

The Ventriloquist would be cool. *wub* He is one of my favorites.

[Batbrick]

I never thought of that. I wanted one of those already, but now I want one even more! :-P

The Ventriloquist would be cool. *wub* He is one of my favorites.

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Yeah, I plan to order a rockraider set one day for one of those monsters, and to get iamded's torso!

A sort of, kill two birds, one rock.

And the Ventriloquest is awesome, funnily enough I like his Arnold Wesker personality more than the Scarface one, he's so pathetic! X-D

But as I said before, I have no idea how a Scarface mold could be done :-/

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[Brainbox]

That said Brainbox, it may hurt your ears to hear that I am not a huge fan of crossovers, I prefer my heroes to have their own world. A world like Batman's in my opinion just doesn't fit in with something like metropolis. That said again, I do love the DC universe, and Justic League, but prefer to think of them as separate continuities in most cases.

Arrgghh, the pain! The pain!

;-)

To try to not go TOO off topic (we're going for the second lap now! X-D ) do you think TLC would be bold enough to have some of the more gangster oriented villains made, or someone along the lines of Black Mask?

He'd actually be relatively easy to make as well, just use a black skellie head.

It would be, but I doubt we would see Scarface, seeing as he would be to hard to produce as a mold :-/

I t wouldn't be too hard though, you could make him like a small minifig with a whole in his back for Wesker's hand.

Personally though, I'd love a Ventriloquist and Scarface. As long as it was the old one, not the new one (Sugar). Nothing against her, just that Wesker's a better character.

Oh, and the news that the Buggy's been confirmed is good, as it means that the others might be (definitely) real.

[jamie75]

The Bat Buggy should be ............um...........interesting??

Robin's Scuba Sub sounds cool!! Probably like the Penguins sub from the Batcave set.

The Batcycle set and Hammer Truck will be a sweet for Harley Quinn, if nothing else!! What's a Hammer Truck??

And last a Tumbler set with Joker. And not the cartoony Joker. The scarred, insane, Joker from TDK. Assuming this is from TDK. Should be, right??

But, I hope get more UCE sets from the Batman line. A Batwing would be great!! A Batboat would be cool if it was a boat and not a hovercraft, maybe like a long, black Go-Fast-Boat with some cool wings.

Jamie

[Vader]

And last a Tumbler set with Joker. And not the cartoony Joker. The scarred, insane, Joker from TDK. Assuming this is from TDK. Should be, right??

Jamie

You know i think TLC might be crafty with the Tumbler, it was recently posted that the batman states in one of the comics that he used to have a Tumbler. Now i'm wondering if lego will give us one along with a regular joker and bats, and just say it's based on the comics.

It's a long stretch but i wouldn't put it past lego.

[Joebot]

You know i think TLC might be crafty with the Tumbler, it was recently posted that the batman states in one of the comics that he used to have a Tumbler. Now i'm wondering if lego will give us one along with a regular joker and bats, and just say it's based on the comics.

It's a long stretch but i wouldn't put it past lego.

That's a good point. I was wondering if their merchandising license will allow TLC to make "The Dark Knight" branded sets, or would that require a separate license with the movie studio that's making the movie?

For example, the Spidey sets that Lego made were licensed to the movie studio (Sony), not with Marvel. Thus, Lego was forced to include scenes and characters ONLY from the movies.

We know that the Batman license is with DC, which gives TLC more leeway on the sets and characters that are available to them. However, can they make a set based on "The Dark Knight" movie? I dunno.

Speaking of which ... I read a description of the six-minute footage that they showed to some fans last week. It sounds awesome.

With "The Dark Knight," along with Hulk and Iron Man movies, next year could be really great for comic book movies.

[Nebsirob]

As for Robin

[The Brick Rat]

That's a good point. I was wondering if their merchandising license will allow TLC to make "The Dark Knight" branded sets, or would that require a separate license with the movie studio that's making the movie?

For example, the Spidey sets that Lego made were licensed to the movie studio (Sony), not with Marvel. Thus, Lego was forced to include scenes and characters ONLY from the movies.

We know that the Batman license is with DC, which gives TLC more leeway on the sets and characters that are available to them. However, can they make a set based on "The Dark Knight" movie? I dunno.

LEGO can produce sets based on:

1)DC Comic's comic books.

2)Warner Bros. Animation TV series 'The Batman'.

3)Warner Bros. Pictures' feature film 'Batman Begins'.

4)Any related theatrical releases or television programs produced while LEGO holds the license (i.e. 'The Dark Knight').

See the original press release: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?threadid=47589

However, LEGO won't be making sets based upon 'The Dark Knight'. Several months ago the (reliable) Batman website 'Legions of Gotham' reported:

Legions of Gotham has confirmed with LEGO corporate...

While LEGO will be producing more Batman product next year, there are currently no plans for LEGO toys based on the film 'The Dark Knight'

My guess is LEGO is avoiding 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' because they aren't kid films. But they do know that fans want the Tumbler. So, they're giving us a Tumbler, but in a set not actually based on the movies (there probably won't be an ice cream truck in 'The Dark Knight' and the Joker fig will most likely be the same one from the Batwing set).

And the Batwing set is a good example. It is heavily based on the '89 'Batman' movie (the design of the Batwing and the Joker-Copter with rope ladder), but it's not technically a 'Batman' movie tie-in (the Joker minifig isn't a Jack Nickelson Joker).

Ken

[Batbrick]

And the Batwing set is a good example. It is heavily based on the '89 'Batman' movie (the design of the Batwing and the Joker-Copter with rope ladder), but it's not technically a 'Batman' movie tie-in (the Joker minifig isn't a Jack Nickelson Joker).

Ken

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Actually, the Batwing is based FAR, FAR more on the 90's Batman: The Animated Series than Burton's movie. In the movie the Batwing was stubby, in the series the batwing was almost EXACTLY like the set ;-)

BTW: Batman: The Animated series, is a different, and much better show, than "The Batman"

Clearly batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[The Brick Rat]

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Actually, the Batwing is based FAR, FAR more on the 90's Batman: The Animated Series than Burton's movie. In the movie the Batwing was stubby, in the series the batwing was almost EXACTLY like the set ;-)

Keep in mind that B:TAS owed it's existence to the success of the Burton 'Batman' film and as such, the movie influenced the look and feel of the TV show. I'm sure when the LEGO designer sat down to make the Batwing, he/she used both the movie and tv Batwings as inspiration. Two main differences are, as you noted, the shape (the movie Batwing is circular, the tv Batwing longer and somewhat rectangular) and the existence of two 'wings' just behind the cockpit of the movie Batwing that aren't part of the tv version. The LEGO Batwing has the longer shape of the B:TAS version and the cockpit wings of the movie version, not to mention many design elements found in both versions.

I'll still maintain though, that the main inspiration for the LEGO Batwing SET was the '89 movie. Batwing aside, look at the goon-piloted helicopter with rope ladder (and check out the sticker of Jokers' head on the side - it's the same exact image found on the side of the movie helicopter).

BTW: Batman: The Animated series, is a different, and much better show, than "The Batman"

Now you're preaching to the choir. :-P

For me, the B:TAS universe (i.e. the Timmverse) is the definitive version of Batmans' world. However, that's not to say I hate 'The Batman'. Although there are plenty of things I dislike about the show, there are a few things that I think they have done better than B:TAS!...blasphemy, I know.

Ken

[Batbrick]

Nice rant! *y*

I'll give you a "fair enough" :-P

I still, however, maintain that the lego is based heavily on BTAS, you only need to see Mr.Freeze, Two-Face, Joker and Scarecrow to understand what I'm talking about.

That said, I agree with you on the joker copter ;-)

BTW: What do you think they have done better in "The Batman"? The only thing i can see is the animation. Thats not me being a "fanboy", I just don't see much thats better.

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[Joebot]

LEGO can produce sets based on:

1)DC Comic's comic books.

2)Warner Bros. Animation TV series 'The Batman'.

3)Warner Bros. Pictures' feature film 'Batman Begins'.

4)Any related theatrical releases or television programs produced while LEGO holds the license (i.e. 'The Dark Knight').

See the original press release: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?threadid=47589

However, LEGO won't be making sets based upon 'The Dark Knight'. Several months ago the (reliable) Batman website 'Legions of Gotham' reported:

My guess is LEGO is avoiding 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' because they aren't kid films. But they do know that fans want the Tumbler. So, they're giving us a Tumbler, but in a set not actually based on the movies (there probably won't be an ice cream truck in 'The Dark Knight' and the Joker fig will most likely be the same one from the Batwing set).

Very interesting! Thanks for the clarification on all of that. I wasn't aware of all those details.

I'm sure you're right about TLC not releasing official "The Dark Knight" branded sets because it's a PG-13 movie. That was the same reason we always heard for why TLC never went after the "Lord of the Rings" license.

As for the sets being influenced by B:TAS, I think it's more of a case of B:TAS and TLC both trying to do the same thing -- create a very iconic, stylized, almost "timeless" look.

Batman is such a versatile character that can be interpreted and imagined in a wide range of styles -- from the campy Adam West show to the dark, military-esque "Batman Begins." Making a set based on, say, "The Dark Knight" movie might limit the set's appeal. The movie will come and go, and will soon fade from the public's consciousness, and the sales of the branded merchandise will tail off.

Instead, TLC has decided to go with a timeless, iconic appeal that will make it less of a quick "fad" attached to a movie. I think that's a really smart way to go.

[Vader]

Nice rant! *y*

I'll give you a "fair enough" :-P

I still, however, maintain that the lego is based heavily on BTAS, you only need to see Mr.Freeze, Two-Face, Joker and Scarecrow to understand what I'm talking about.

One look at those figs and i would agree with you BB, the vehicles might be different but those figs are surley based on the cartoon.

[Batbrick]

One look at those figs and i would agree with you BB, the vehicles might be different but those figs are surley based on the cartoon.

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Yes, it would be very interesting to get a news release on the design process like with the castle designers.

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As for the sets being influenced by B:TAS, I think it's more of a case of B:TAS and TLC both trying to do the same thing -- create a very iconic, stylized, almost "timeless" look.

Instead, TLC has decided to go with a timeless, iconic appeal that will make it less of a quick "fad" attached to a movie. I think that's a really smart way to go.

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I think Joebot words it best here (though I think a few chracters were influenced by BTAS), that TLC was very smart and included an awesome timeless look for the line. Just to further that point, check out the box and instruction art, Gotham looks amazing, I'm very sad I threw away the boxes. :'-(

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[jedikermit]

As for the sets being influenced by B:TAS, I think it's more of a case of B:TAS and TLC both trying to do the same thing -- create a very iconic, stylized, almost "timeless" look.

Instead, TLC has decided to go with a timeless, iconic appeal that will make it less of a quick "fad" attached to a movie. I think that's a really smart way to go.

I agree with you, Joebot--they're going for the most iconic version of each character, and one thing Bruce Timm was able to do was get rid of a lot of the extraneous stuff associated with the characters and just give us the bare bones--the ultimate expression of each character. And LEGO's doing a great job of that. Whether you think it's from the comics, the Adam West TV show, or some animated version--you're probably right.

[Brainbox]

What's a Hammer Truck??

A truck with a large hammer mounted on top perhaps.

But, I hope get more UCE sets from the Batman line. A Batwing would be great!! A Batboat would be cool if it was a boat and not a hovercraft, maybe like a long, black Go-Fast-Boat with some cool wings.

Personally, I'd just like more UCS Batmobiles. Different designs, of course, but Batmobiles nonetheless.

That's a good point. I was wondering if their merchandising license will allow TLC to make "The Dark Knight" branded sets, or would that require a separate license with the movie studio that's making the movie?

The movie's are being made by WB, who own DC Comics, so they're actually one and the same.

Speaking of the Movie, seen these? Mmm, Batpod...

[Batbrick]

Personally, I'd just like more UCS Batmobiles. Different designs, of course, but Batmobiles nonetheless.

Speaking of the Movie, seen these? Mmm, Batpod...

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I would rather see a Batwing UCS personally :-P Add a bit more variety.

And I do hope the Batcycle we get in the Hammer truck set is the Batpod, as I can already use the black motorbike that comes in the servicestation as a batcycle.

Batpod ON! X-D

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

[The Brick Rat]

Nice rant! *y*

I'll give you a "fair enough" :-P

Thanks. But like you and others have stated, Joebot said it best:

"As for the sets being influenced by B:TAS, I think it's more of a case of B:TAS and TLC both trying to do the same thing -- create a very iconic, stylized, almost "timeless" look."

BTW: What do you think they have done better in "The Batman"? The only thing i can see is the animation. Thats not me being a "fanboy", I just don't see much thats better.

Well, there isn't "much thats better". But, I do watch the show and occasionally there are things that I really like, even if it's flawed (and being "The Batman" it often is). A few examples:

1)The Riddler. I've never been a big fan of the Riddler and B:TAS takes a very classic approach to the character. With a Goth look and an attitude, "TB" gives us a Riddler unlike any other I've seen. He's still the cerebral, riddle obsessed villian and can't compete physically with the Dark Knight, but he has an edge about him that other versions of the character don't. He's the only "TB" character that I like better than his B:TAS counterpart.

2)Punch and Judy. B:TAS gave us Mo, Cur and Lar - Joker henchmen based on The Three Stooges. They're funny enough, but just ok in my book. I don't know if Punch and Judy are "TB" creations or borrowed, but it's a brilliant idea. You have The Joker (jester), Harley Quinn (harlequin) and 'Punch and Judy ' - very thematic. Of course, "TB" goes and spoils it by making them mute shapeless blobs with no personality, but I like the idea. I would've loved to have seen B:TAS versions of these characters.

3)Harley Quinn. No I haven't lost my marbles (yet). The B:TAS version of Harley beats "TBs" version hands down. But "TB" did one thing with her origin that I rather liked. In B:TAS and comic book continuity, Harleen Quinzel meets the Joker through her job as a staff pyschologist at Arkham Asylum. In "TB" she's introduced as a ditzy pop pyschologist hosting her own tv show. Even though "TBs" execution of the idea was rather weak (IMO), I liked it. Considering some of the nutcases that host hit tv shows in real life, I can see Joker taking a shine to Harley as he watches her dispense wacked-out advice on the tube.

4)Second tier villians. "TB" did a very nice job with Black Mask (there's a bat-villian I never thought I'd see on Saturday morning). And the Killer Moth episode was fun in a goofy sort of way. I wish B:TAS had done their own versions of these characters (although in the mid-nineties they may have been seen as too dark/violent for a kids show).

Well, after that let's see if I can say something that's more on topic for this thread (i.e. 2008 Batman sets).

I noticed at the Toywiz website that they're listing the Batman Buggy set as a June release. That's great as I thought they would probably come out in August. A June release gives me hope that we may get a set or two in the second half of 2008. I'd love to see a playset of the GCPD Headquarters with Jim Gordon and Batgirl (in the animated style black and yellow costume). I'd also like to see a UCS Joker sculpture done in the style of the Darth Maul Bust (set 10018) or like the Giant LEGO Mini-figure (set 3723).

Ken

[Vader]

A truck with a large hammer mounted on top perhaps.

Speaking of the Movie, seen these? Mmm, Batpod...

I think your most likely right about the truck, i can't really see any other reason why it would be named a Hammer Truck without a Hammer X-D

Not sure i like that Batpod, it kinda looks silly to me :-/

[Batbrick]

I think your most likely right about the truck, i can't really see any other reason why it would be named a Hammer Truck without a Hammer X-D

Not sure i like that Batpod, it kinda looks silly to me :-/

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I'll reserve my judgement on the Batpod until I see the film, but I would love to see one in that set! *wub*

Why? Because if it wasn't that it would be just a black motorbike, and I can always use the one in the service station for that. Like Brainbox has stated repeatedly about getting different versions of the Batmobile, I'll take the Batpod and have different versions of his bike! :'-)

As for Batman himself, any thoughts on what kind of custume he'll be in this time?

Clearly Batbrick's mind has turned to mush! *wacko*

Edited December 12, 2007 by Batbrick

[Zzz]

searching for 5 min. now for the video game threat... unsucessful..

well.. everyone accepting a game as a "set"... ? :-$

so...some pics of the 08' Batman video game...

sorry for posting it here!

[???theriddler???]

I see it and think, that looks like a good movie!! But its the game, i really can't wait!!!! *y* *y* :'-) *sweet*

[jedikermit]

Harley.... *wub* *wub* *wub*