gedren_y Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Given that the upcoming Tarzan movie (July 1, 2016) has nothing to do with Disney, it seems quite correct that Disney has lost the license. I think it very doubtful that Disney would want to in any way support a competing company's upcoming product. Alexander Skarsgård looks awesome, but I doubt TLG will license this movie. Quote
Pedilego Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The original Tarzan is so old that I think it's just public IP now. So Disney still owns their version but they can't prevent people from making their own movies, toys, products. So while it's possible they may avoid it completely from here on out, they are not legally obligated not to do so. In either case, it does diminish the probability of the list being accurate a bit. Quote
strangely Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The original Tarzan is so old that I think it's just public IP now. So Disney still owns their version but they can't prevent people from making their own movies, toys, products. So while it's possible they may avoid it completely from here on out, they are not legally obligated not to do so. In either case, it does diminish the probability of the list being accurate a bit. Parts of Tarzan are in the public domain, but it's kind of a sticky area. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120228/18543417906/edgar-rice-burroughs-inc-using-trademark-law-to-prevent-use-public-domain-stories.shtml Quote
legofanatic12 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 You still spelled it wrong, even with the link. It's Iago. I too hope we get Vanellope one day but maybe they didn't include her because Ralph would have to be a big fig. Fix it Felix jr. would be a great fig too though.. Oops my bad. I did not know that Iago's first letter was "L", but anyways why they don't include Vanellope and Hiro in this series because their companions like Ralph and Baymax are supposed to be big fig. If there is Fix-it Felix Jr. in this series, why could have Calhoun? Quote
8BrickMario Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I think Vanellope could be in a future series, but Ralph would need to be a bigfig and Calhoun and Felix might be considered less popular. More people would be likely to buy a Baymax figure than Hiro, but again, the size is an issue. Quote
gedren_y Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Iago is named for the antagonist in Othello. Gilbert Gottfried voices him with the perfect blend of sarcasm and snide. Quote
Soupperson1 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Well sorry - the RIGHTS for Tarzan - my English isn't quite perfect, considering I've learned it from Doctor Who - anyway - this still proofs the list is fake. They can still make merchandise of the characters if they wish though, there's still meet and greets at Disneyland. Quote
Pedilego Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I think Vanellope could be in a future series, but Ralph would need to be a bigfig and Calhoun and Felix might be considered less popular. More people would be likely to buy a Baymax figure than Hiro, but again, the size is an issue. They could make an entire series of bigger figures if they wanted: Beast, Baymax, Ralph, Pete, Sully, Bing Bong, Blue, Hunchback, even ones like Gaston, Genie, Mr. Incredible, etc. Heck they could even do an animal line or mix it with the big-figs (Brave Bear, Lion King, Dumbo etc). Disney gives Lego so many options. Quote
strangely Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 They can still make merchandise of the characters if they wish though, there's still meet and greets at Disneyland. I don't think meet and greets are proof they can merchandise though. I really haven't seen any merchandise outside of DVD/Blu-rays for quite some time, so if they have merchandising rights they haven't been using them at all. And if this list is real this begs the question as to why they want to release Tarzan products now after a decade of nothing. Better yet, why is this only appearing in Lego form? It just seems strange that out of nowhere they'd give us characters from a franchise they haven't touched in a decade and in Lego form no less. But really Aladdin and Mulan are odd choices too, are either of those things on the rise right now? They just don't strike me as something kids are clambering for right now. Hopefully we get pictures or a better source soon. For now I remain skeptical of this list. Quote
Ultron Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 But really Aladdin and Mulan are odd choices too, are either of those things on the rise right now? They just don't strike me as something kids are clambering for right now. Hopefully we get pictures or a better source soon. For now I remain skeptical of this list. Well Mulan is a fan favorite among a lot of people. Not to mention she appeals to historic/army fans. There also need to be a certain amount of female characters in the series. If she has a sword/armor or maybe even Mushu she will appeal to boys more than someone like Aurora would. Overall she's a good choice because she is desirable on multiple levels. I am also biased because I think she's the best Disney princess. Quote
BrickSantorum Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Parts of Tarzan are in the public domain, but it's kind of a sticky area. https://www.techdirt...n-stories.shtml The thing about rights issues is that they can almost always be solved with the application of large amounts of cash. And considering that we're talking about the world's largest toy company and the world's second-largest media conglomerate, I don't think they'd have any trouble putting together a deal that everyone would be happy with. Quote
Amazing Bricks Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 February 2015: *snip* Those are hideous. This list looks real to me. Don't see the problem with Tarzan. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I don't think meet and greets are proof they can merchandise though. I really haven't seen any merchandise outside of DVD/Blu-rays for quite some time, so if they have merchandising rights they haven't been using them at all. And if this list is real this begs the question as to why they want to release Tarzan products now after a decade of nothing. Better yet, why is this only appearing in Lego form? It just seems strange that out of nowhere they'd give us characters from a franchise they haven't touched in a decade and in Lego form no less.But really Aladdin and Mulan are odd choices too, are either of those things on the rise right now? They just don't strike me as something kids are clambering for right now. Hopefully we get pictures or a better source soon. For now I remain skeptical of this list. That's going to be true of virtually any possible combination of characters, though - at least, unless the whole series were devoted to one or two movies being released next year, in which case they'd hardly market it as a general "Disney" series anyway and would instead call it by the name of whatever the new movies are. Having five Inside Out characters is probably as close as they'll get to that. As for "why Tarzan?", it may be just to capitalize on an anticipated resurgence of interest in Tarzan in general, thanks to the new film from another studio. And one or two individual LEGO minifigures in a series with well over a dozen other characters hardly equals a major merchandising push for Tarzan. It's just part of a general Disney thing. A series of inexpensive blind-bagged toys like this is exactly the sort of place where they have reason to offer new merchandise from an otherwise dormant property from the back catalog. If not Tarzan, then maybe there'd be "Wart" Arthur. Or Madame Medusa. Or Condorman. Or TRON. And then we'd just be having the same conversation about that other character instead of this one. Or perhaps they could instead stack this whole series with just the most iconic, enduringly popular characters - but then what would they do for subsequent series? Quote
Oky Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 February 2015: Thank you. This should put the copyright debate to rest. If they can make these, there is no reason why they couldn't make minifigures. The only reason why Disney hasn't had any Tarzan merch in a while is because there's not much demand for it, but this proves that when there's a collectable line of Disney figures, they aren't beyond including him. Whatever happened with the Kingdom Hearts games, it had nothing to do with Disney not having the rights to the source material. That's going to be true of virtually any possible combination of characters, though - at least, unless the whole series were devoted to one or two movies being released next year, in which case they'd hardly market it as a general "Disney" series anyway and would instead call it by the name of whatever the new movies are. Having five Inside Out characters is probably as close as they'll get to that. As for "why Tarzan?", it may be just to capitalize on an anticipated resurgence of interest in Tarzan in general, thanks to the new film from another studio. And one or two individual LEGO minifigures in a series with well over a dozen other characters hardly equals a major merchandising push for Tarzan. It's just part of a general Disney thing. A series of inexpensive blind-bagged toys like this is exactly the sort of place where they have reason to offer new merchandise from an otherwise dormant property from the back catalog. If not Tarzan, then maybe there'd be "Wart" Arthur. Or Madame Medusa. Or Condorman. Or TRON. And then we'd just be having the same conversation about that other character instead of this one. Or perhaps they could instead stack this whole series with just the most iconic, enduringly popular characters - but then what would they do for subsequent series? I couldn't agree more. I think for Lego it makes sense to make Tarzan and Jane since they wouldn't require any new molds and for Disney, as you said, it would be an inexpensive way of reminding people of Disney's Tarzan. I still think it's an odd choice since there are other, much more popular characters that wouldn't require any new molds either, but it's not an implausible choice. Quote
Dorayaki Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) I personally like Tarzan, so regardless of the licenses debate, I'm willing to see this franchise. There are tons of Disney franchises and inevitably some aren't noticed by most of us, but it's kinda rude to ask "why". The lack of Tarzan in the current Disney Infinity lineup might be due to some commercial reasons, indeed. It's too bad, why there is no Vanellope in the list? Well, WiR is one of the possible returning Disney franchise with its sequel, so if you have assumed that Ralph should be an action figure, then it's not CMF series' topic. I definitely wish to see some WiR sets. But really Aladdin and Mulan are odd choices too, are either of those things on the rise right now? *cough* Disney Prin*cough* she's the bestDisney princess. One of my favorite Disney character.... but "princess".... well.... Edited December 10, 2015 by Dorayaki Quote
Freddy Bricker Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Hiya, I noticed some talk of a list but it isn't on the front page, could someone redirect me to the rumored list and who the source was? Thanks guys Quote
Clone OPatra Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 This post contains the list and the source. I will add it to the first post in some form, but I have (some) reason to believe that it's not true so I hope people take it with a BIG grain of salt. Quote
Amazing Bricks Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) I really do trust this list, I'm sure the series is going to be a mix of big molded heads and regular minifigure heads. It'd be the first series to have both, should be great. Edited December 10, 2015 by amazingbricks Quote
strangely Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Ok, I'm convinced the list is real. Seeing those abominations is enough proof for me that they have the merchandising rights. I still think the list is full of odd choices though. Quote
x105Black Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I still think the list is full of odd choices though. As do I. Even if I am interested in some of the minifigures, I still think there were far better choices. Quote
Amazing Bricks Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 There's always a chance for series 2. Those of you who don'like this series, that's ok, there are other people who like it. Mark my word, there's a lot of characters they need to make, series 2 will happen and could potentially be better than this. Quote
Brickity Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I'm personally happy with the list... although the 5 from inside out were totally unexpected and well, I just can't put my finger on it. I would've preferred other classic characters. Quote
Robert8 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 (If the list is real) the lack of female villains (Evil Queen, Maleficent, Ursulla, Cruella de Vil, Lady Tremaine, etc...) makes me think LEGO could have something on store for them... Maybe a villains minidolls line? Quote
x105Black Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 (If the list is real) the lack of female villains (Evil Queen, Maleficent, Ursulla, Cruella de Vil, Lady Tremaine, etc...) makes me think LEGO could have something on store for them... Maybe a villains minidolls line? Oh please no. The biggest disappointments for me in this list are the lack of female villains and princesses, along with Beast and Sulley. Quote
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