Disney Collectible Minifigures Series 1 Discussion

[Dannylonglegs]

I highly highly doubt the heads will be reused.

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[Huigberts Builds]

Those heads could be used for the CMF

Does anyone know if these can be attached to regular torsos?

No they can't, and even if they could it, they are way too big for a Lego so it would never happen.

Btw, I just read that Pluto was the first licensed Lego toy/figure ever made, back when Lego were wooden toys, so perhaps there is hope to get a Pluto figure just because it was the first licensed Lego toy, it would be pretty epic actually, it's still hard for me to see Pluto in a cmf bag and I rather see him in a set or as accessory for mickey, but if something has never happened before doesn't mean it can't ever happen. Still it has a pretty small chance but if it happens he will probably be like scooby doo and it probably will be a one time thing.

[Brickity]

I think Maleficent is the most wicked and creepiest disney villain ever. She needs to be in this series I also like Jafar and Garfio very much.

Also, it would be cool to have characters from tangled/brave/frozen but the probabilites are low since they already got made in horrid doll form.

[MAB]

One more time...

Human characters: normal heads.

Non-human characters: molded heads.

Just saying, it's not that complicated. That's just the most sensible way to do it.

If any are molded, I'd prefer that they are all molded. That is also sensible, since then the whole series looks like a whole series. Not half a series with minifig heads and hair that looks like a regular minifig series, then another half a series with different Simpsons-style molded heads.

wow not knowing about gravity falls is like now knowing that darth vader is lukes father

Not really. Star Wars is an almost 40 year old film franchise that has had world wide coverage over decades. Gravity Falls has been shown on TV in some countries, if you happen to get and watch the Disney Channel.

[Shib]

If any are molded, I'd prefer that they are all molded. That is also sensible, since then the whole series looks like a whole series. Not half a series with minifig heads and hair that looks like a regular minifig series, then another half a series with different Simpsons-style molded heads.

Because the Monster series don't look like a whole series?

[MAB]

Because the Monster series don't look like a whole series?

That is different. CMFs have often had one piece heads for aliens, etc.

Imagine if they did for example, a Mowgli and a Baloo. If Baloo had a detailed molded head and he was stood next to Mowgli with a plain regular minifigure head, I don't think they would go that well next to each other. Similarly, characters like Captain Hook are pretty distinctive. remove their noses by using regular minifigure heads and they will not look as good as if they did molded heads. They will also look strange next to characters where this type of detailing is present. They would end up looking like this:

in the same series as this:

Lots of head detail in some of the figures, with minimal in the others. They would look poorly made.

[Dannylonglegs]

If any are molded, I'd prefer that they are all molded. That is also sensible, since then the whole series looks like a whole series. Not half a series with minifig heads and hair that looks like a regular minifig series, then another half a series with different Simpsons-style molded heads.

I don't want (nor do I expect) moulded heads for human characters, like Belle or Mulan, but for characters like Mikey mouse, I can't see as being done any other way than a moulded head. So some with and some without works for me.

Not really. Star Wars is an almost 40 year old film franchise that has had world wide coverage over decades. Gravity Falls has been shown on TV in some countries, if you happen to get and watch the Disney Channel.

Quite true... but with the Internet, you have no excuse.

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[Shib]

@MAB - We'll have to agree to disagree, to me it's about the individual character design. Your examples don't work to me because I think the simpsons family look odd without moulded heads anyway as their features are so far removed from a real human head. I agree that when LEGO did the early squid ward in the Spongebob theme with a standard head it didn't work next to spongebob and Patrick as again none of them have human form heads.

Compare it to star wars, where you'll have a Moulded head Yoda fighting a standard mini figure head Count Dooku...to my eye it looks right - So a standard head Mowgli with a moulded head Baloo would also look fine to me.

Edited October 22, 2015 by Shib

[kevkipo]

i am not a fan of molded heads, in some cases it's nesicarry in wich i understand and most of the time even like ( Azog for example ). But with characters like Mulan and Peter Pan, i think it's not nesicarry. But take Joy for example and it would fit perfectly

[MAB]

So Peter Pan vs Hook. Does Hook end up without his distinctive Disney nose? So looking like any pirate captain.

[Coca-Cola]

So Peter Pan vs Hook. Does Hook end up without his distinctive Disney nose? So looking like any pirate captain.

Many licensed characters have distinctive noses and look fine without them when translated to a LEGO minifigure (DC's Penguin, and like every dwarf from Middle Earth being most memorable). I would be disappointed if TLG gave us moulded heads for characters like Captain Hook. There is simply no need for it.

Edited October 22, 2015 by Coca-Cola

[Dannylonglegs]

Many licensed characters have distinctive noses and look fine without them when translated to a LEGO minifigure (DC's Penguin, and like every dwarf from Middle Earth being most memorable). I would be disappointed if TLG gave us moulded heads for characters like Captain Hook. There is simply no need for it.

Agreed! Also I really don't think his nose is even as distinctive as his mustache!

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[Ultron]

As long as they don't print on a nose like they did with the Flying Dutchman

[MAB]

Many licensed characters have distinctive noses and look fine without them when translated to a LEGO minifigure (DC's Penguin, and like every dwarf from Middle Earth being most memorable). I would be disappointed if TLG gave us moulded heads for characters like Captain Hook. There is simply no need for it.

They may look fine but it is whether or not they look distinctive. Obviously, we don't know who is in this series. But as it is a Disney series, Disney will probably want it looking Disney-ish. If they do Pan and Hook, would Disney want them looking like any Pan and Hook, or Disney's Pan and Hook. This is where there is the problem between human characters played by humans and human characters that are cartoons. In some cases like Scooby Doo the minifig heads are fine. There is enough about the character that makes it distinctive. I'm just wondering whether Disney would want their characters to appear detailed like Disney characters or fairly generic, especially since they know Lego is willing to do detailed non-lego like heads for entire CMF series. They know Lego is willing to do doll like heads on minifigs to make them look accurate to the original source. Remember many people said Simpsons were fine with just regular minifig heads too - like in the Lego episode. There are of course Disney minifigs in purist Lego form, then also ones in minidoll form where they (Lego and Disney) decided to go for a closer match to the cartoons (or just chose the "girl Lego" style) and then molded heads for Buzz and Woody (that could have been done in an acceptable way using real minifig heads). I guess it depends how much input Disney has, whether they want the Simpsons style for their characters, and of course what characters they decide to produce, whether cartoon or human.

[Coca-Cola]

dude c'mon, theres like no argument here. I see what your saying i do, it's just wrong. the chance LEGO gives regular characters sculpted heads is low, not to mention it would suck. I mean really... You want characters like (for example) Aladdin and Mulan to have moulded heads? really? the simpsons don't look exactly human, they are very much cartoony in their appearance. Disney most times looks like an animated live action and could easily translate well to minifigs without the sculpted head. with non-human characters (Baloo, Mickey) they would use a moulded head, you want to know why? It makes the most sense. and i can see why they did it with Buzz and Woody too, they don't exactly look super human.. they are toys... It would be a waste to give Pan, Hook or whoever else a sculpted head because as i said, it wouldn't look as good and new moulds are expensive.

EDIT: plus the nose or shape of the face is hardly what makes most disney characters distinct. so long as the printing and extra parts (hairpiece, capes etc.) are used properly it will look plenty distinct. Like if Peter has the bright green tights and the elf hat with accurate enough printing... like whether or not the head is shaped right or if it's using a regular minifig head you can tell it's Peter Pan from the disney film (again supposing they do it right, which they should, I see no problem)... its gonna be all good.

Edited October 23, 2015 by Coca-Cola

[gedren_y]

If we do get Peter Pan and Hook, I would prefer they use the Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman versions, but they are more likely to use the original cartoon versions. A pearl gold Roman Gladius would make a passable Pan sword. A hat/hair combo would make Hook well enough, but he should have the long legs.

Edited October 23, 2015 by gedren_y

[MAB]

dude c'mon, theres like no argument here. I see what your saying i do, it's just wrong. the chance LEGO gives regular characters sculpted heads is low, not to mention it would suck. I mean really... You want characters like (for example) Aladdin and Mulan to have moulded heads? really?

No, I don't want. But I understand why they might.

the simpsons don't look exactly human, they are very much cartoony in their appearance. Disney most times looks like an animated live action and could easily translate well to minifigs without the sculpted head. with non-human characters (Baloo, Mickey) they would use a moulded head, you want to know why? It makes the most sense. and i can see why they did it with Buzz and Woody too, they don't exactly look super human.. they are toys... It would be a waste to give Pan, Hook or whoever else a sculpted head because as i said, it wouldn't look as good and new moulds are expensive.

Minifigures have changed massively over the past few years, more than in the 30 years before that. Lego has shown that it is willing to do complete series of sculpted heads (two of them in fact) where plain heads would have done for many of the buyers. CMFs (at least licensed ones) are not made to give us parts, they are made to sell complete characters. It won't matter to Disney if people want to use the heads as parts, probably not to Lego either. They will want good representations of their characters. They may decide regular heads are enough for this series, maybe not.

As to the cost of molds, yes they are expensive but do-able for CMFs. Proof is in The Simpsons lines. New head molds aplenty there. Hardly any of those molds are ever going to be reused, yet there was a financial case to make them. Disney presumably already have 3D computer models too, so part of the sculpting process could possibly be avoided. I don't know how lego works with licensing partners when it comes to reproducing well known characters.

As to the wouldn't look as good - I disagree. A molded head would look more like Captain Hook than a lego one. It wouldn't look anywhere near as lego-like, but it would look more like a normal toy of him. Hard-core lego fans may not like it (like many seem not to like the Simpsons) but I doubt that matters too much to Lego. These will be aimed at kids and parents, and so they will do what they think will sell.

I really hope they are regular heads, it will hopefully give us a whole range of decent fleshie parts to use. But I can understand if they are not.

If we do get Peter Pan and Hook, I would prefer they use the Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman versions, but they are more likely to use the original cartoon versions.

And that is exactly the problem. If they use one based on Robin Williams (more human than cartoon style) then it might not look like a Disney character. Hook was a TriStar / Columbia / Sony movie.

[CM4Sci]

Disney CMF listing on Amazon.fr - no list yet.

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Edited October 23, 2015 by CM4Sci

[8BrickMario]

I think the molded heads issue is very complicated. Some characters might look better with them (Hook and the Old Hag would seem diluted in appearance if they tried to use regular heads), but some don't need them at all, like Peter Pan, and some of the more realistic humans.

[x105Black]

I don't think they're likely to use molded heads on human characters. Sure, they did it for the Simpsons, but you'll notice they haven't been selling. Nearly everywhere I go that sells minifigures, there are still way too many Simpsons Series 2 available (I even found some Series 1 a couple of weeks ago).

I also don't think it will look as good. I really don't think Hook would need a molded head for you to recognize the character.

I'm really hoping for some good uses of the long legs, though.

[MAB]

I don't think they're likely to use molded heads on human characters. Sure, they did it for the Simpsons, but you'll notice they haven't been selling. Nearly everywhere I go that sells minifigures, there are still way too many Simpsons Series 2 available (I even found some Series 1 a couple of weeks ago).

That's probably more down to the subject matter than because they have molded heads though. Many parents wouldn't buy Simpsons stuff for 5-10 year olds. Disney on the other hand ...

[x105Black]

Many parents wouldn't buy Simpsons stuff for 5-10 year olds.

I never quite understood that. It's a great cartoon.

But back to the point, I think a significant number of LEGO fans would shy away from the molded heads as they aren't as useful outside of that context. That's what I was hearing about Simpsons (and part of why I only had a few). Animal characters, on the other hand, molded heads for sure. I'd love a molded head Baloo or Sully, but a regular head Hook or Evil Queen as Witch.

[strangely]

They may look fine but it is whether or not they look distinctive. Obviously, we don't know who is in this series. But as it is a Disney series, Disney will probably want it looking Disney-ish. If they do Pan and Hook, would Disney want them looking like any Pan and Hook, or Disney's Pan and Hook. This is where there is the problem between human characters played by humans and human characters that are cartoons.

I don't see that being a problem even slightly. Disney animations are carefully crafted and often end up being the most distinct version of any given classic character. Before Disney Alice didn't wear a blue dress, now ask any kid on the street and they can tell you exactly what color she wears. Disney knows how to brand, kids can recognize a Disney version by color scheme alone. They don't need molded heads for human characters, they're all so distinctive in every way that a nose will not be needed to recognize that this is a Disney character.

If a person can't recognize that the red and pink dressed pirate wearing eye shadow is Disney's captain Hook then there's probably something wrong with them.

Edited October 23, 2015 by strangely

[MAB]

If a person can't recognize that the red and pink dressed pirate wearing eye shadow is Disney's captain Hook then there's probably something wrong with them.

Is there anyone that wouldn't recognize this as the Simpsons?

Yet that is not what we got. Despite it being more lego-like, despite it even being in the LEGO TV episode. Someone (whether LEGO or FOX) chose to go down the route of detailed molded heads, even though minifig heads would have worked and even fit in with the tie-in episode. Just because something works and just because the hard core fans want a purist route doesn't mean that is what the company decide to do.

[8BrickMario]

I don't see that being a problem even slightly. Disney animations are carefully crafted and often end up being the most distinct version of any given classic character. Before Disney Alice didn't wear a blue dress, now ask any kid on the street and they can tell you exactly what color she wears.

While Disney has made every version of a classic character a go-to, Alice has has a blue dress long before Disney. It just took a while for it to be solidified as the definitive color.

I think the real issue here isn't accuracy, but a worry that the Disney figs won't work with regular minifigures. But since the Scooby figs look like standard LEGO, I don't see how a more normal 'fig face wouldn't work for many of these characters.

Edited October 23, 2015 by 8BrickMario