Disney Collectible Minifigures Series 1 Discussion

[Shib]

@MAB - I think you've missed a bigger likelihood with your argument - Consider just how many characters there are for them to choose from... take your Peter Pan and Hook example. Peter Pan being the main titular character of one of the 52 classics films has a decent chance of being made. I don't think we are likely to get pairs of figs from the same film on the first wave - maybe a group of classic mascot characters, but not the films - While Hook might look more distinctive with a moulded head, that fact could lead to him being discarded as figure rather than mixing a moulded and non moulded head for characters from the same franchise.

That said, LEGO have done mixed moulded and non moulded heads for licences* before, so I see no reason for them not to do it in this CMF line.

*e.g (off the top of my head) Star Wars, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Spongebob Squarepants, Harry Potter.

The point is, they might choose to do all moulded heads, but they have little reason to, characters that have so far appeared in the Disney Princesses line could be redone as Minifies without any new mould, and frankly having moulded heads on them unnecessarily would look weird. (for full disclosure I'm pro-moulded heads for franchises like the Simpsons)

[8BrickMario]

*e.g (off the top of my head) Star Wars, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Spongebob Squarepants, Harry Potter.

None of those examples include humans for both molded and non-molded.

[Sven F]

I am patiently waiting for TLG to forever stop making moulded heads like the simpsons since their use is obviously limited which kind of misses the whole point of lego. If you like ready-made characters to collect on a shelf, there are plenty of manufacturers that do just that.

[MAB]

None of the examples include CMF series either. The point is, we simply do not know what the thinking is behind their choices. Do they see CMFs as a series to be displayed together? Do they see them as a way to supplement existing sets and characters? Do they give the license owner the right to choose style and contents?

I am patiently waiting for TLG to forever stop making moulded heads like the simpsons since their use is obviously limited which kind of misses the whole point of lego. If you like ready-made characters to collect on a shelf, there are plenty of manufacturers that do just that.

The point of Lego is to sell and make money. There aren't many companies that make Lego mini figures to display on a shelf, or be compatible with Lego MOCs. The number of molded heads is tiny compared to the number of regular heads. They are just giving people that want more accurate molded heads what they want. Just like using minidolls gives part of the population that doesn't like minifigs what they want. Edited October 23, 2015 by MAB

[Coca-Cola]

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ok. look at the profiles. Peter Pan (and most other disney characters) look. like. humans. Homer (and many if not all simpsons characters) look very cartoony and stylised. The regular renditions of the simpsons minifigures used in the episode i guarantee was simply because it was easier to animate the face of something 2D on a flat minifigure face than animate a 3D sculpted head. The moulded head was going to be the route for that series long before the episode, and tbh i like them more because they looked like the simpsons should. as someone else said look at TMNT. there are moulded heads for the turtles. but a minifigure head for April. yet you can still tell which April O'Neal you have because the printing and hairpiece matched. The Nick cartoon was very distinct in it's animation style but did that stop lego? The same will be done here. Disney looks like an animated interpretation live action rather than just a cartoon.

Yes some characters (Ursula for example) would be difficult to recreate with just a minifigure head, but even then like. as long as it's a purple and black sea-witch with tenticles and white hair whether or not it's pulled off right (and again i trust lego 100%)... it will look distinctly like Ursula.

The point of Lego is to sell and make money. There aren't many companies that make Lego mini figures to display on a shelf, or be compatible with Lego MOCs.

Which is why it would be real stupid of LEGO to spend money on moulds when majority of the characters look human unlike the Simpsons or Ninja Turtles or whatever else..

[Clone OPatra]

At some point this conversation is going to get into dead-horse-beating territory. It's already starting to go around in circles. Really there's only one thing that will settle it, and that's the release of some pictures. Since this series doesn't come out yet for quite a while, it could be some time before pictures surface. This argument over the heads should not continue that long.

[strangely]

While Disney has made every version of a classic character a go-to, Alice has has a blue dress long before Disney. It just took a while for it to be solidified as the definitive color.

Yes, but Disney's version was the final nail in the coffin as to which color her dress was. Up until then Alice's dress had ranged a multitude of colors starting with the yellow of the official colorized version of the book.

Ultimately I only want molded heads for characters who fall into the more fantastical category; animals, mythical characters and whatnot. I personally am not a fan of the quality of the Simpsons heads. They're not bad, not great either.

Edited October 23, 2015 by strangely

[x105Black]

Is there anyone that wouldn't recognize this as the Simpsons?

Yet that is not what we got. Despite it being more lego-like, despite it even being in the LEGO TV episode. Someone (whether LEGO or FOX) chose to go down the route of detailed molded heads, even though minifig heads would have worked and even fit in with the tie-in episode. Just because something works and just because the hard core fans want a purist route doesn't mean that is what the company decide to do.

The decision to go with molded heads may have impacted sales (as I said earlier). True, it may not be the only factor, but I'd say it's significant, and something LEGO may have paid attention to.

You're right, though. We don't know why they decide the way they do. We don't know why they decided to scrap medieval fantasy and give us the garish Nexo Knights, but they did. We have no idea why they decided to make molded heads on the Simpsons. And when this Disney series launches, we will have no idea why they chose their characters or styles the way they did.

Still, I'm hoping humans have normal minifigure heads. It's the most likely and the most preferred.

[LEGODalekbuster523]

Is there anyone that wouldn't recognize this as the Simpsons?

Yet that is not what we got. Despite it being more lego-like, despite it even being in the LEGO TV episode. Someone (whether LEGO or FOX) chose to go down the route of detailed molded heads, even though minifig heads would have worked and even fit in with the tie-in episode. Just because something works and just because the hard core fans want a purist route doesn't mean that is what the company decide to do.

Thank God we didn't get the Brick Like Me version. It looks awful and unrealistic to the Simpsons characters.

[x105Black]

Thank God we didn't get the Brick Like Me version. It looks awful and unrealistic to the Simpsons characters.

They actually look fine like this. I would have bought more minifigures if they were like this, more versatility.

[Shib]

None of those examples include humans for both molded and non-molded.

I never said they were, but they contained characters of mixed styles. I agree that we'll only know when we see images, but i personally see no reason for there not being a mix of moulded heads and standard heads.

[LEGODalekbuster523]

They actually look fine like this. I would have bought more minifigures if they were like this, more versatility.

I wouldn't. They don't evoke that Simpsons style.

[x105Black]

I wouldn't. They don't evoke that Simpsons style.

They're definitely identifiable as Homer and Marge. They just don't have those big obnoxious molded heads.

Anyways, back on topic, does anyone have any additional information about this series?

[MAB]

I wouldn't. They don't evoke that Simpsons style.

Yet some people prefer the versatility of being able to mod them. For example, making a Santa Homer or Hazmat Homer, using the standard style head with other Lego parts. Hopefully that will happen with Disney, especially if they do the first fleshie CMF series. Edited October 23, 2015 by MAB

[Dannylonglegs]

So, the new pannier Dress piece is confirmed (in the CMF wave 15)! I suspect this means we'll be having a Princess or two in this wave use it as well! maybe Ballroom Belle!

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[8BrickMario]

It's not a new piece at all. It just has seen limited usage. For those hoping for it to be a 1x4, you'll probably be disappointed. I think it would ruin the poofy look when viewed at any angle but head-on, and there wouldn't be a reason for it to be a new piece. A half-dome sounds okay, but dresses like that were rounded at all angles, so for LEGO, it should be blocky on all sides.

Edited October 23, 2015 by 8BrickMario

[Dannylonglegs]

It's not a new piece at all. It just has seen limited usage. For those hoping for it to be a 1x4, you'll probably be disappointed. I think it would ruin the poofy look when viewed at any angle but head-on, and there wouldn't be a reason for it to be a new piece. A half-dome sounds okay, but dresses like that were rounded at all angles, so for LEGO, it should be blocky on all sides.

It's definitely not going to be the old piece. I don't think they still make that piece, and besides, that piece would be far too bulky. Either a flat 1-4 or 1-4 to 1-2 transition. Or a new 2-4 piece designed specifically to be a dress, but certainly not the old piece.

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[gedren_y]

The last year the 2x4x2 arch insert piece was released was 2009. From the available images, the arc appears to be more than one stud in height. A 2x4x2 half bell piece might be useful elsewhere.

[Dannylonglegs]

The last year the 2x4x2 arch insert piece was released was 2009. From the available images, the arc appears to be more than one stud in height. A 2x4x2 half bell piece might be useful elsewhere.

Thanks for the info!

I don't say it'll be 1-4 because I want it to be. I'm saying that because I think it's most likely. I would prefer slightly a 2-4, but I am not getting my hopes up. I readily accept any design for the piece, since it's really been a long time coming to have a dedicated 1600s dress piece.

~Insectoid Aristocrat

[x105Black]

I think it's most likely to be the old 2 x 4 piece, since it's a piece they have actually used in the past, and is the piece used in the original Marie Antoinette design.

I hope to see it used for princesses in this CMF series. We need minifigure Disney princesses, since all of the other ones released have been minidolls, and those are just terrible.

[Robert8]

It's not a new piece at all.

The fact that they didn't give her a new hairpiece makes me think that the dress could be a new mould.

Edited October 24, 2015 by Robert8

[x105Black]

It's definitely not going to be the old piece.

You say that with a lot of certainty. Are you sure? It looks like it will be the old piece.

[Dannylonglegs]

The fact that they didn't gave her a new hairpiece makes me think that the dress could be a new mould.

You say that with a lot of certainty. Are you sure? It looks like it will be the old piece.

What he said, also I'm going by the breif appearance of this piece in the Nexo Knights short film, which shows it as a 1-4. Also the last time the piece was used in a set was 2009, meaning more than likely it has been discontinued. Also I own several and honestly, they are way too bulky to be inside a CMF bag. They're more bulky than the hotdog piece.

Also, it'd make an awful dress piece, since it forms a very solid connection to what's beneath it, but a much less sturdy connection to what's above it (the Minifig's torso) If they do make it a 2-4 piece, it'll absolutely need to have minifig leg connections, as opposed to studs.

Edit: Watch this

It's a 1-4.

~Insectoid Aristocrat

Edited October 24, 2015 by Dannylonglegs

[MAB]

The big downside for me is not fitting through doors, unless they go sideways. Hard Lego doesn't give like soft dresses.

[x105Black]

Watch this

It's a 1-4.

Ah, so it is. Strange I didn't notice that before. Maybe I just thought it was a bit of artistic license. I'm definitely rethinking my position on the matter, but I still feel it's likely we'll get the old piece. 2009 wasn't really that long ago. But thanks for the research.