Procedure for Captured Vessels

[Kai NRG]

The amount of captures as a result of last month's MRCA have been quite surprising. The rules are as follows:

• Warships captured by pirates will not be returned.
  
• Trading vessels captured by pirates will be auctioned.
  
• All vessels captured by privateers (where the privateering nation and the vessel's nation are not at war) will be returned or not returned via a build-off procedure, unless the owner(s) of the vessel specifically request not to have a build-off (in which case they will not be returned).
  

Caveat: If a captured ship was or can become the builder's free license ship (i.e. if the builder has no other ships of a class 2 or higher and no free license), then said ship will not be included in any of these return actions unless the builder specifically requests to be included.

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List of Vessels

The following warships were captured by pirates. Nothing can be done towards the retrieval of these ships.

• Corrington, HMS Kite, 4A
  
• Oleon, HRS Eltina
  
• Dukesc, The Meteor
  
• Oleon, HRS Granoleon
  
• Corrington, HMS Queen’s Glory, 5HA
  
• Oleon, HRS Astrapi
  
• Oleon, HRS Loraithian
  
• Captain Genaro, Pride of Poseidon
  

The following trade vessels were captured by pirates. As per the rules, these ships will be blind auctioned. If you for whatever reason do not wish to loose the name, let us know and we will tell the buyer to change the ship's name.

• KolonialBeamter, Revenant, 2F (C. Harrison Torn)
  
• SilentWolf, Golden Filly, 5F (C. Gregory Decker)
  

The following vessels were captured by privateers.

• Khorne, Torino (C. Carno, "El Matador") [free license; no procedure]
  
• Gideon, The Fairmont (C. Carno, "El Matador) [free license; no procedure]
  
• Corrington, HMS Bull Shark (C. Carno, "Bloodsucker”)
  
• azog, Dagger (C. Mardier, Gernaldo) [free license; no procedure]
  

The following vessels were taken by Unknown. If the owners of these vessels wish, they may build a MOC this month that throws blame upon an NPC privateer. A disinterested leader will then determine by the roll of the die whether or not the MOC is accurate. If so, the case will proceed to a build-off with the NPC nation being blamed.

• MKJoshA, La Oleon
  
• Jacob Nion, Warbringer
  
• KolonialBeamter, Scimitar
  
• KolonialBeamter, Commerce de Breshaun
  

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What's next?

The Revenant and the Golden Filly will be blind auctioned. I will be setting up a topic for this as soon as possible.

There is one build off: Corrington vs. Carno. I will start a topic for this also as soon as possible.

Important! Anyone whose free-license ship has been captured and who now has a) no free license, b) no licensed ship of a class 2 or greater may disregard any actions suggested here and is free to MOC his/her MRCA results in such a way as to result in the return of his/her vessel. Be sure to fill out the ship license form again, however.

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In the future when dealing with captured ship returns I will use this same topic but the build-offs and/or auctions will be given their own topics.

It wasn't always easy for me to tell exactly what/whose these vessels were, so if I have made a mistake in my arrangements anywhere, please let me know!

If anyone has any questions or corrections speak up!

[Kolonialbeamter]

Scimitar and Commerce de Breshaun's capturer was from Namere. That makes a case OL vs. NAM.

The Torino was sailing under Khorne, not Dukesc.

The Fairmont was sailing under Gideon, not Dukesc.

Revenant is a 2F, not a 5F.

All these traders can be sistershipped 'only' by paying the license, right? Same as we now technically have two versions of the 'Heart of Eslandola'.

In this case a build off for The Torino and The Fairmont isn't really necessary. And the Revenant will simply return, as the name suggests... so I'd have no incentive to bid on my ship.

Sorry, I didn't really follow the past auctioning topics

[Legostone]

Why can't vessels captured by unknown be auctioned off?

[CelesAurivern]

Why can't vessels captured by unknown be auctioned off?

That would expose their identity? They probably didn't strike their colours for a reason.

Scimitar and Commerce de Breshaun's capturer was from Namere. That makes a case OL vs. NAM.

Official results table says they were taken by 'Unknown'.

But if Oleon wishes to start an incident with Namere based on some hearsay. Well...

[Kolonialbeamter]

Official results table says they were taken by 'Unknown'.

But if Oleon wishes to start an incident with Namere based on some hearsay. Well...

It is suspected that the unknown ship was from Namere.

This is repeated in the list, saying that their accent was Namerian. Ska wouldn't have mentioned this if it wasn't of any significance. IMO that's enough to go knock on their court doors.

[Bregir]

It is suspected that the unknown ship was from Namere.

This is repeated in the list, saying that their accent was Namerian. Ska wouldn't have mentioned this if it wasn't of any significance. IMO that's enough to go knock on their court doors.

Acutally this seems like a really good basis for a build-off - OL: Prove that they are Namerians, NA: Prove that they were not.

This is part of why I suggested elsewhere that the factions themselves should decide which cases to press...

[CelesAurivern]

Acutally this seems like a really good basis for a build-off - OL: Prove that they are Namerians, NA: Prove that they were not.

This is part of why I suggested elsewhere that the factions themselves should decide which cases to press...

Now that you mention it, it is a sensible premise. Would it lead to war though?

[SkaForHire]

Why can't vessels captured by unknown be auctioned off?

They can't until it is determined who took them -- this would be determined through story builds to find the culprit.

It is suspected that the unknown ship was from Namere.

This is repeated in the list, saying that their accent was Namerian. Ska wouldn't have mentioned this if it wasn't of any significance. IMO that's enough to go knock on their court doors.

Acutally this seems like a really good basis for a build-off - OL: Prove that they are Namerians, NA: Prove that they were not.

This is part of why I suggested elsewhere that the factions themselves should decide which cases to press...

Kind of exactly how I thought this would go, as soon as nationality of the culprit were determined then proceedings to get the vessels back could happen, perhaps they would be settled out of court instead of having a court case after proof was already determined.

[Maxim I]

But... The Scimitar and the other one are trade ships, so they should be auctioned and not a build off, which is for warships

[Phadeout]

But if it is found to be privateers then build off is the way put forward. If they are found to be pirates via the build off, if that is even an option, then they should probably be put up for auction.

[Kai NRG]

Scimitar and Commerce de Breshaun's capturer was from Namere. That makes a case OL vs. NAM.

The Torino was sailing under Khorne, not Dukesc.

The Fairmont was sailing under Gideon, not Dukesc.

Revenant is a 2F, not a 5F.

All these traders can be sistershipped 'only' by paying the license, right? Same as we now technically have two versions of the 'Heart of Eslandola'.

In this case a build off for The Torino and The Fairmont isn't really necessary. And the Revenant will simply return, as the name suggests... so I'd have no incentive to bid on my ship.

Sorry, I didn't really follow the past auctioning topics

Thanks, corrections made.

Sistership: Yes, the builders can sistership by filling out another license form (with a different name) whenever they please. However, as the ship is still in the game, it makes sense to auction it - though it certainly wouldn't make sense for the builder to bid on it for more than a sistership would cost.

The only case in which trade vessels captured by a pirate shouldn't be auctioned would be if they were or could become the builder's free license.

But... The Scimitar and the other one are trade ships, so they should be auctioned and not a build off, which is for warships

But if it is found to be privateers then build off is the way put forward...

Yes.

Pirate captures warship = she gone!

Pirate captures trade vessel = auction (what would a pirate do with a trade vessel? Oh, that's right, turn Sea Rat. )

Privateer captures warship = build-off

Privateer captures trade vessel = build-off

[Kolonialbeamter]

Oleon's embassador to Namere was tasked to kindly ask for the whereabouts of the Commerce de Breshaun and the Scimitar.

Oleon hereby officially requests someone roll a die to determine if there's going to be a build-off between Oleon and Namere. Oh, and... better roll that die well, or the embassador might come knock on your door, too!