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Hmmm...

I'm not convinced that these are more Winter sets, because why would we have 2 Umaraks in one wave, particularly if they are both the same character? One would cannibalize the other's sales and wouldn't make a lot of sense from a marketing prospect, even if the Umaraks are distinctly different. So based on that alone, I'd hazard a guess that these are Summer sets. Unless, of course, these are alternate names?

I'd say that 71315 is also a Beast, but what it's element or name is, I don't have a clue, neither can I think of anything that could logically fit.

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Super mega Umarak, I guess. If that's a larger set than the hunter one, I hope he gets his own pet. But even though CM4Sci seems reliable, I'm still a bit suspicious of this.

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Well, it's been pointed out to me that the LEGO Shop verifies these names (http://shop.lego.com...ask-Maker-71312 gives you a "Product Not Available" message instead of a "Page Not Found" message like you'd get for a bogus set name like http://shop.lego.com...o-Manager-71312 or http://shop.lego.com...k-Hoarder-71312). That's enough to convince me that they're legit. They could turn out to be summer set names, though it'd be really surprising to get summer set names this early.

The possibility of getting different versions of the same character within a single wave cannot be entirely ruled out. After all, 8989 Mata Nui and 8998 Toa Mata Nui came out the same wave, as did 7167 William Furno and 7158 Furno Bike. And there's also plenty of precedent for getting a character two waves in a row, especially from one year to the next.

Still not sure what to expect of these sets, though. The word "Beast" certainly has more of a sense of danger than the word "Creature". Does that mean the "beast" sets are evil creatures? Or just more powerful ones? Hard to say at this point. Also, what could be expected of the Ekimu set? Many people are expecting a size upgrade, but it could just as easily be an armor upgrade. One thing's for sure — Umarak the Destroyer definitely sounds like a more powerful and dangerous version of Umarak the Hunter.

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Might these new sets be combiners of some of the previous ones? I doubt it myself, since the Toa and Protector combo packs have numbers outside of the normal five-digit range. but still a possibility.

Otherwise, dang! I can't see summer sets leaking this early, but I can't imagine they'd release two Umaraks (and another Ekimu) in winter, either. Consider my mind boggled. If these are for summer...I'm kinda glad it's not a theme of enemies (like the skullies).

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I think this confirms enough for the playtester speaking truth Had to say I doubted him but this is enough for me.

But I honestly don't know if those are names for summer sets or not. Two Umarak's being included sounds kinda stupid in the same wave but maybe they are names for a species/group?

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My guess is Umarak is hunting the Mask of Control in the winter. And he gets it in the summer to become the destroyer. By using it to control the Creatures turning them into Beasts.

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What is this? Can't be more winter sets, surely. But summer set lists this early? Sweet.

So Ekimu's back. Was a little surprised until I realized that he's pretty much part of the team now. The Toa were released in subsequent winter waves, so now Ekimu does the same. Curious to see how they update him. Still not a fan of the idea of him becoming a Toa... But if he retains the overly stocky look he currently has, I won't have too much of an issue.

Umarak's back? That makes me happy. Glad he's not a one-and-done villain. Considering he's a hunter, I could see him being hired by Makuta to seek out the Mask of Control. Then stuff happens and he gets upgraded for the summer.

Now the Beasts are intriguing. I'm interested in the whole "unity" thing. Whether evil or not, I could see these being fusions of the winter wave's Creatures. Lave would be Stone and Fire. Storm would probably be Ice and Water? I figure that since there's still one name missing, and Earth and Jungle could make a Swamp Beast.

Either way, I'm excited to see how things turn out. But bring forth the winter sets first!

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It's possible that Ekimu may be a protector-sized set but with different functions or something

A good point. As common as the "Toa Ekimu" theories have been, I haven't seen a single one that had basis in anything other than wishful thinking on the part of the theorist. We can probably assume that the Toa are not going to change in size too dramatically between years despite getting new designs, so we shouldn't necessarily assume that Ekimu would, either.

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If these are summer sets, and prices are anything similar to this year's, Umarak the Destroyer could be a $/€30 titan. Mhm, mhm.

Maybe this time around he could actually include a 10$ sized creature

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What is this? Can't be more winter sets, surely. But summer set lists this early? Sweet.

So Ekimu's back. Was a little surprised until I realized that he's pretty much part of the team now. The Toa were released in subsequent winter waves, so now Ekimu does the same. Curious to see how they update him. Still not a fan of the idea of him becoming a Toa... But if he retains the overly stocky look he currently has, I won't have too much of an issue.

Umarak's back? That makes me happy. Glad he's not a one-and-done villain. Considering he's a hunter, I could see him being hired by Makuta to seek out the Mask of Control. Then stuff happens and he gets upgraded for the summer.

Now the Beasts are intriguing. I'm interested in the whole "unity" thing. Whether evil or not, I could see these being fusions of the winter wave's Creatures. Lave would be Stone and Fire. Storm would probably be Ice and Water? I figure that since there's still one name missing, and Earth and Jungle could make a Swamp Beast.

Either way, I'm excited to see how things turn out. But bring forth the winter sets first!

Aaaaaah silly me. I thought about Storm being Water+AIR.... Yeah, I think that's spot on. Now all 3 element pairs make sense. I wonder what happens- Umarak using the MoCo to control the Creatures/Beasts seems obvious, but how are they fused together?

I think Umarak the Destroyer might be the set with the MoCo. It's the largest set since it's the last one on the list. Makes sense for Toa-sized Umarak upgrade himself into a Titan. The set could include Umarak's regular mask and a gold and/or dark coloured MoCo. I don't know because Makuta in his current form shown in episode 13

If this is the Summer sets list, looks like Makuta is getting the G1 treatment, getting his set right at the climax of the story, in 2017. Though if these are Winter sets, I'd be really impressed since we're getting back to the large waves G1 was known for, even if the Summer wave were to be small.

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Hmmm...

I'm not convinced that these are more Winter sets, because why would we have 2 Umaraks in one wave, particularly if they are both the same character? One would cannibalize the other's sales and wouldn't make a lot of sense from a marketing prospect, even if the Umaraks are distinctly different. So based on that alone, I'd hazard a guess that these are Summer sets. Unless, of course, these are alternate names?

I'd say that 71315 is also a Beast, but what it's element or name is, I don't have a clue, neither can I think of anything that could logically fit.

Rocka/Rocka XL...?

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