[PORSCHE] LEGO Technic Porsche of Your Dreams

[Techniccrack]

Its definitely a great design that Porsche 917k no 23..

But it reminds me at the fact that old models seems to be allowed to enter in the rebrick contest. This model is now a semi finalist.and its really a winner design.but old..from long ago...not made for the contest...anyone get my point here?

[dokludi]

Thank you very much to everyone!!! Congratulations to the semi-finalists!!!! I'm very happy!!! Thanks!!!

[Didumos69]

I did prefer real models. I think you simply can't compare digital entries with real life ones. We suggested to split these into two categories next time.

Probleem is that there's no way to tell whether a digital model actually can be built properly, whether the functions are working etc. And there's an unfair advantage in using all available colors. That's why I favored actual builds.

Congrats to anyone that made it to the semi-final!

Not because my entry was a LDD-only entry - it was a bit of a caricature anyway - but I think it's a bit strange to have a contest open for both LDD-models and real models and select only real models, because they are preferred over virtual models, without informing contestants about this in advance.

Reviewing functions of an LDD-model is maybe more difficult, but is still doable. Besides that, there are many real MOCs that claim functions that turn out to be heavily flawed when you get your hands on the actual model.

[nk4002r]

Its definitely a great design that Porsche 917k no 23..

But it reminds me at the fact that old models seems to be allowed to enter in the rebrick contest. This model is now a semi finalist.and its really a winner design.but old..from long ago...not made for the contest...anyone get my point here?

Yes, strange. The focus of the theme from the video was supposed to be a new design, a car that does not actually exists. If you go through the semi finalist list, most of them are the usual 911 (2x), 906 (2x), 917 + 918 and 919 (4x) variations. Great models, but not very original. Certainly not something that I am skilled enough to build from scratch within the time frame allowed for the competition. Entering an existing build gives an unfair advantage of more time allowed, because the rest of us only had 8 weeks to build a car. The judging criteria was published in the rules:

Overall coolness and originality (25%)

Most inspired details and functions on the model (25%)

Understanding of the Porsche brand design and competition theme (25%)

Overall LEGO Technic look and feel of the model (25%)

Edited August 6, 2016 by nk4002r

[Techniccrack]

The build of existing models or nonexisting ones,that part is not something a have a problem with.only the part of use old builds

Edited August 6, 2016 by Techniccrack

[TheMindGarage]

I'm not in the top 20, and I'm pretty disappointed about the list in general. There are plenty of amazing ORIGINAL models, but they seem to be pushed aside by the swarm of 911s, 918s and 919 Hybrids . Isn't this meant to be about a DREAM Porsche, and not making a scale model of the Porsche you would buy if you had the money to. Also, I feel that functionality-oriented entries (like mine) lost out to appearance-based models with fewer functions. If it were up to me, it would be:

Originality of idea: 25%

Functions: 35%

Appearance: 20%

Showing the Porsche brand: 20%

If model has been posted before, multiply above by 0. Otherwise multiply by 1.

Seems like my opinion of this competition has gone the same way as my opinion of the 42056 set itself: too heavily focused on the appearance and defying expectations by attracting far more people than anyone thought.

At least I've got a chance with the Maker Faire...

[FX6000]

Porsche 917K No23 is not the only one existing build in the contest before it started and in the semi finalist list. Personally I don't see any problem because you can get the instructions for one of the coolest models:)

[Jonfensu]

Obviously entering with an existing model is not fair in any way because it was built without any kind of pressure or limited time. I didn't know that the 917K No23 was built 1 year ago. Jim, Did you and the other judges know that?

About existing and non existing car, the Rebrick Admin and even Jim stated that both were allowed (though it was not clearly described formally in the contest, so maybe some thought that an existing car had less chances to win.... Shame on you TLG! ).

IMHO, The contest would have been a lot funnier if existing cars were not allowed. In this way you could have been persuade to "Understand the Porsche brand design and competition theme" and build a car with "Overall coolness and originality"

I think that the Lego and Porsche judges would be more interested and enjoyed to analyze something crazy like the Porsche Zero, the tracked ones, or the V8 supercar. I said that because Jim told us that TLG would prefer non existing cars .

Well that's just my opinion

Edited August 7, 2016 by Jonfensu

[nk4002r]

Another question for Jim,if he is allowed to disclose what was the judging process? Selecting a top 20 list or evaluating each and every entry on the 4 judging criteria and coming up with a score? Then the 3 judges scores combined calculation would bring up a semi finalist list?

[brunojj1]

Let us not wanna be judges over the judges. Jim was only one of them and I´m sure he has done justice to all contestants regarding the rules and regardless of EB membership or other preferences. If they decided to favor real models above digital entries, their arguments are plausible. Because Functions were a main criterion above looks – it´s a Technic contest after all and that´s it.

Some of the digitals are true pieces of art though and it would be great to see them built in real, with all the functions working of course! I personally wouldn´t mind if non-existing parts or panels in such colors would have to be painted, if clearly indicated in the description.

[Didumos69]

I think there's nothing wrong with some criticism, especially when it's about the contest in general. This is a discussion forum after all.

It's up to the judges and LEGO what to do with it. Jim already mentioned that he suggested to have separate categories for LDD and real models next time. A good suggestion I think and it shows there is some room for improvement.

[Jim]

Another question for Jim,if he is allowed to disclose what was the judging process? Selecting a top 20 list or evaluating each and every entry on the 4 judging criteria and coming up with a score? Then the 3 judges scores combined calculation would bring up a semi finalist list?

Exactly

Some of the digitals are true pieces of art though and it would be great to see them built in real, with all the functions working of course!

Agreed. I would love to see those digital entries built in real life.

If it would have been an EB contest, we would have had two categories. And we would have a clear definition of a "dream Porsche". I didn't like the fact that most of the contestants built an existing Porsche instead of a dream version. But it was allowed so we need to accept it.

[Alex Ilea]

Congrats to the 20 semy-finalist . I am dissapointed that i didn't was selected , thought one of my cars had a lot of functions and pretty good looks.

[brunojj1]

I think there's nothing wrong with some criticism, especially when it's about the contest in general. This is a discussion forum after all.

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Point taken , move on! It just won´t affect the judges in any way and I think nobody of them would be really willing to discuss a lot, especially with contestants.

By the way I somehow expected you to enter with a multifunctionnal Ultimate 42056 ?.. If you couldn´t finish it in time, I can understand of course... That would be another criterion which could be seen as critical is entering with an "older" model or not-built-for-the-contest e.g. the 962 C hasn´t been built primarily for the contest in such short time (at least as I suppose) but "occasionally" could win the contest because of no restrictions (sure he would deserve it! ).

[steph77]

job done i am into the top 20

Congratutions to all contestants especially those who invest time and do not be qualified.

Special thouhts to charbel work !

[Alex Ilea]

I'm not in the top 20, and I'm pretty disappointed about the list in general. There are plenty of amazing ORIGINAL models, but they seem to be pushed aside by the swarm of 911s, 918s and 919 Hybrids . Isn't this meant to be about a DREAM Porsche, and not making a scale model of the Porsche you would buy if you had the money to. Also, I feel that functionality-oriented entries (like mine) lost out to appearance-based models with fewer functions. If it were up to me, it would be:

Originality of idea: 25%

Functions: 35%

Appearance: 20%

Showing the Porsche brand: 20%

If model has been posted before, multiply above by 0. Otherwise multiply by 1.

Seems like my opinion of this competition has gone the same way as my opinion of the 42056 set itself: too heavily focused on the appearance and defying expectations by attracting far more people than anyone thought.

At least I've got a chance with the Maker Faire...

I agree

[Didumos69]

By the way I somehow expected you to enter with a multifunctionnal Ultimate 42056 ?.. If you couldn´t finish it in time, I can understand of course... That would be another criterion which could be seen as critical is entering with an "older" model or not-built-for-the-contest e.g. the 962 C hasn´t been built primarily for the contest in such short time (at least as I suppose) but "occasionally" could win the contest because of no restrictions (sure he would deserve it! ).

I entered with my ultimately playable 42056 based on the idea that the look of a Porsche is timeless and what's inside evolves continuously. But that entry was disqualified because it was based on a standard set. After that disqualification I got the idea of entering with a very small scale model.

[Jim]

Congrats to the 20 semy-finalist . I am dissapointed that i didn't was selected , thought one of my cars had a lot of functions and pretty good looks.

Which one was yours?

[Techniccrack]

The porsche 1000 concept car

[Alex Ilea]

Which one was yours?

Porsche 1000 concept car and 911 Spyder ( not 918 ).I like the 1000 more.

Jim , the contest is based around building the porsche of our dreams , Andrew and rules said futuristic Porsches are allowed and i see none of them in the top 20 semy-finalist. No concept impressed you ?

Edited August 7, 2016 by IA creations

[TheMindGarage]

Porsche 1000 concept car and 911 Spyder ( not 918 ).I like the 1000 more.

Jim , the contest is based around building the porsche of our dreams , Andrew and rules said futuristic Porsches are allowed and i see none of them in the top 20 semy-finalist. No concept impressed you ?

Yeah - I think there should have been at least a couple of concepts such as IA's ones and my 914.5 SpyTarg. Unless of course you thought that the 20 semi-finalists were better than ALL the concepts, which is pretty unlikely...

Let us not wanna be judges over the judges. Jim was only one of them and I´m sure he has done justice to all contestants regarding the rules and regardless of EB membership or other preferences. If they decided to favor real models above digital entries, their arguments are plausible. Because Functions were a main criterion above looks – it´s a Technic contest after all and that´s it.

Some of the digitals are true pieces of art though and it would be great to see them built in real, with all the functions working of course! I personally wouldn´t mind if non-existing parts or panels in such colors would have to be painted, if clearly indicated in the description.

Are you sure functions were a main criterion? My 914.5 SpyTarg had more functions than any other that I've seen, and was completely original (both the Google search queries "914.5 SpyTarg" and "Porshce 914.5" return every webpage relating to my entry before anything else shows up). But due to my lack of parts such as flex axles and curved panels, the looks weren't quite as good as some of the other entries (I resorted to using white 24-tooth clutch gears as headlamps...), and I think this was why my entry wasn't selected. Is this really fair? Seems to me as if the judges are putting form far above function (as the developers did in the 42056), rather than sticking to a "Technic look-and-feel". Just my opinion.

Edited August 8, 2016 by TheMindGarage

[nk4002r]

Yeah - I think there should have been at least a couple of concepts such as IA's ones and my 914.5 SpyTarg. Unless of course you thought that the 20 semi-finalists were better than ALL the concepts, which is pretty unlikely...

Are you sure functions were a main criterion? My 914.5 SpyTarg had more functions than any other that I've seen, and was completely original (both the Google search queries "914.5 SpyTarg" and "Porshce 914.5" return every webpage relating to my entry before anything else shows up). But due to my lack of parts such as flex axles and curved panels, the looks weren't quite as good as some of the other entries (I resorted to using white 24-tooth clutch gears as headlamps...), and I think this was why my entry wasn't selected. Is this really fair? Seems to me as if the judges are putting form far above function (as the developers did in the 42056), rather than sticking to a "Technic look-and-feel". Just my opinion.

I've really liked the unique usage of an element as a gear for the headlight. But in all fairness, the Porsche 914 is modeled after an existing vehicle, not as original as the 6 wheeler racer: OTR-666 for example! That one should be a top 5, if not the winner. The OTR-666, V8, Cayenne concept, Mission E, Black & grey Prototype were my favorites, but I am not a judge. For the sake of full disclosure: my entry was the Roadster - completely different from the others, but still carrying the design elements of a Porsche - original, demonstrating an understanding of Porsche brand design, fitting the competition theme and have a Technic look.

Edited August 8, 2016 by nk4002r

[Victor Imaginator]

Congratulations to all semi finalists. I'm not disappointed that my model stay with outsiders, here's many more cooler cars than mine old rusty 550) In any case - I got experience and it's my first MOC that will stay on the shelf for a long time.

[Jonfensu]

Well, since there are complains (some valid, some not so much ) due misleading and ambiguous rules and description of the contest, TLG should compensate the moral damage , . The only way is giving to the top50 a 42056 copy (no signed), to the top10 the 42056 (signed), die cast model and certificate and the first place the well known grand prize. I mean, if TLG gave a copy of the limited edition 41999 to the top 100 voters, a 42056 copy to the top50 will not hurt 



I already know that its not going to happen, but one never knows. Jim, could you help us, please?

Edited August 8, 2016 by Jonfensu

[Alex Ilea]

i think Lego should give each of us ( participants in the contest) a email with a list of all the cars and to tell us to vote1-10 for each one . When it's finished Lego gives us (the participants) am email with the top 30 and we do the same chosing process . And the guys in top 10 get everything it was said and the rest 20 get a smaller set ( volvo evcavator for example ) and a certificate with there place . Jim , any hope ?