Kommander Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) +++ UPDATE 27/December/2016 +++ Happy holidays eurobricks! I have some new pictures of my Venator. You can check out my flickr for more pictures. I will upload more as soon as possible. First post also edited. greetings Kommander +++ UPDATE 3/December/2016 +++ Long time no see eurobricks! Today my Venator enters the sky above the ship yards of Rothana Heavy Engineering. As the project manager I proudly present you the capital ship “ATELLES”- a Venator class star destroyer. Back in 2005 when I saw the Star Wars Epi. 3 starting sequence in the theaters – I was like “I really have to build one of these giants!” Then a few years later and already earning my own money I started the wip. The plan was building a venator bigger than the Lego ISD (10030). While processing the project there were 2 points of massive improvements. Each time I change the size and the new version was bigger than the old one. The building time on the last version of the Venator I´m showing you in this thread was only about 2 years. Now be at university the time has come to finish this ship. Over the whole 7 years I ordered about 100 times at Bricklink.com. Additional to these orders I used a lot of my own bricks in storage. I don’t know how many bricks I used for the Venator. It have to be something above 45000 pieces with a weight of 65 kg. The construction of the inner structure and the frame is basically like the #10030 IDS. A structure made out of technic bricks carrying the whole ship. This technique is easy to scaling up to big dimensions. The Venator´s of Erik Varsegi and Iomedes were always leaders in supersized star destroyers and a good orientation for my project. At one point my Venator should be one of those as well and I destroyed the old version and made a bigger one. This Venator how hitting the length of 220 cm x 117 cm x 68 cm. A bit smaller than the others. However, the thing was building this ship as accurate as possible. Some details of the origin Venator from the Movie has been changed or replaced with own ideas like the frame structure at the surface. The overall impression has to match and looks smooth. For those they want to know about construction details here we go. In the middle of the ship is a massive string - the ship´s “backbone”. Different sections like the hangar or the thrusters are connected with it. The inner structure mostly consists of technic bricks, pins and plates. Simultaneously I build the “wing”-plating because the wedge-plates with their angles restrict the shape of it. And as you know the plating is a bit bigger so it can overlap the frame. The thickness of the plating is 5 layers of plates. One slope underneath and above the string create the first important angle. Each one has left and right technic bricks as well. On those the wings can be attached. Unfortunately I secured the underneath-plating with some wires because the weight was too much and I couldn´t find any alternative to fix this problem. It is the only thing that isn’t Lego. Glue also never touched this project. In every thruster is also a solid string with technic bricks. Rings consists of 8 hinge-elements are the basement for the use of round bricks for the shape. A unique technique which also looks pretty nice. To counteract a misalignment of the long thrusters I decided to install them with an increasing angle upwards. And as expected it works pretty well. The command tower as well as other sections can be detached easy. Reason behind this is of course for the transport. Next step is to exhibit this giant on events in Germany. Maybe I manage to change and improve some things unstill the first event. Finally the last step is selling this thing dissembled in components or complete as Moc. More pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/39520243@N03/albums/72157620671087561 - Kommander +++ Original Post +++ Hello Eurobricks, my name is Philipp and i`m a member of www.imperiumdersteine.de (IdS) and of course german :) Today i`m here introducing my work in progress UCS Venator. Some of you maybe discovered my litte turrents on flickr in various groups. At the beginning of the building progress in year 2008 i started with a size around 150 cm in lenght, but by passing the years i scale up the size to the Venator im showing you now. This ship hitting a lenght of 220 cm and has a width of 120 cm. Dimensions like Erik Varszegi`s Venator. Maybe a litte bit smaller. Btw. here you can see a picture of my first Venatorbuild. Looks kinda cute, isn`t it? Most things are finished...thrusters, guns, superstructure. I really can see the finish line. But this update/post is only for an overview. That means unfortunately no closeup pictures. The next and last milestone is the underside armor. In the meantime i`m going to fill the gaps and there`re still bricks that need to be changed. Before i forget; this is my flickr account: https://www.flickr.c...s/39520243@N03/ and here the original thread on IdS: http://www.imperiumd...estroyer/page-4 - Kommander Edited December 27, 2016 by Kommander Quote
Ber Teh Unicern Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Wow. That is huge, and still very detailed. Excellent work! Quote
Azrielsc Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Holy... That is one HUGE Venator! Can't wait to see the completed version! Quote
gotoAndLego Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 You know, considering how large it is you should build a hangar interior with micro scale ships. Quote
Kristof Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Magnificent. It's no secret that Venator is probably my top favourite ship from SW and I'm glad there are more models coming, especially if it's a new, original build! It looks very spot on, although I prefer the hull to be more tapered towards the sides, which I think is more movie accurate. However, there are plenty of refference models (Which I believe are mostly based on the clone wars series) which are more flat, similarly as your model is. Plus it is rather negligible nunce, the difference might be like 2 degrees maximum :) The turbolasers look wonderful and so do the twin canons on the sides. Good luck with the progress, I can't wait to seing some closeups! BTW the pic of the cute venatorbuild doesn't show, at least not for me. Edited June 19, 2016 by krisandkris12 Quote
Raskolnikov Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Looks great! Did you say you started this in 2008? You must be excited to complete it -- having a project going for that long would probably drive me mad. Edited June 20, 2016 by Raskolnikov Quote
Ber Teh Unicern Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 You know, I suggest adding little 1x1 levers on the sides as guns. Then it would be more realistic. Quote
Lego Customs 0401 Posted July 31, 2016 Posted July 31, 2016 Awesome job so far! I'm building something similar :) I started in september 2013 and I'm somewhere where you are at for the moment :) I'll upload some pictures of my project too. In the meantime you can check mine out on my Mocpage: http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/83528 Quote
KevinYoung Posted July 31, 2016 Posted July 31, 2016 Both builds are fantastic always wanted a venator but I never have built a moc this huge. Still I gotta have one of these. Quote
BrickShady Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Holy cow! This thing is huge. Absolutely amazing work! Edited August 13, 2016 by BrickShady Quote
Kommander Posted December 3, 2016 Author Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) +++ First post edited +++ More pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/39520243@N03/albums/72157620671087561 - Philipp Edited December 5, 2016 by Kommander Quote
atlas Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 Well done, this is an amazing achievement. Everywhere the details look spot on, right down to greebling. Just amazing. Quote
Kommander Posted December 4, 2016 Author Posted December 4, 2016 Hello Thanks for reposting. It is nice to read those comments. Make me proud! ;D Quote
Azrielsc Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 This is one big, detailed Venator! I totally admire the dedication you have to persevere with this MOC for the past 8 years! How much are you going to sell this for? And why sell? This is one amazing MOC! Quote
Raskolnikov Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 That looks amazing -- truly one of the definitive renditions of a Star Destroyer of any class! You must be so happy to have it finished. Also, I hope everyone sees it. Sometimes things get lost in the shuffle when you post an update to an existing thread. You might want to edit your first post or something so people know to scroll down. Quote Unfortunately I secured the underneath-plating with some wires because the weight was too much and I couldn´t find any alternative to fix this problem. Having run into that problem myself, I know exactly what you're talking about. Your ship is bigger than mine, and the panels are thicker, so I dunno if this would work...but what I did was use http://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=76766#T=C , as "hooks" on which the bottom panels hang. The top part of the bracket is buried in plates and secured, and the bottom part slips into a receptacle attached to the frame of the ship. This mock-up kind of illustrates the concept: http://imgur.com/Xy1PjHR. Anyway, just throwing that out there if you want to try it. I imagine you're not looking to make any drastic changes at this point, though, heh. Also, if you don't mind my asking, why sell? If it's put on public display somewhere, that might be the best of all worlds. But don't you want it to be the centerpiece of your living room? Quote
KevinYoung Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 Once again congrats an incredible build this is. Quote
Kommander Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, Azrielsc said: This is one big, detailed Venator! I totally admire the dedication you have to persevere with this MOC for the past 8 years! How much are you going to sell this for? And why sell? This is one amazing MOC! 22 hours ago, Raskolnikov said: Also, if you don't mind my asking, why sell? If it's put on public display somewhere, that might be the best of all worlds. But don't you want it to be the centerpiece of your living room? You´re both right but it needs alot of space which i don´t have in my apartment. The other reason is I have no idea what should I do except presenting or selling the Venator. For the moment its fine for me and I will display this giant but money is more useful for poor students instead of a big Legomoc :D The challenge to building this ship is completed and that´s the most important thing for me. I really don´t know how much for selling at this point and I don´t wanna scare off potential buyer ;D 22 hours ago, Raskolnikov said: That looks amazing -- truly one of the definitive renditions of a Star Destroyer of any class! You must be so happy to have it finished. Also, I hope everyone sees it. Sometimes things get lost in the shuffle when you post an update to an existing thread. You might want to edit your first post or something so people know to scroll down. Good to know. I will check my first post! 22 hours ago, Raskolnikov said: Having run into that problem myself, I know exactly what you're talking about. Your ship is bigger than mine, and the panels are thicker, so I dunno if this would work...but what I did was use http://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=76766#T=C , as "hooks" on which the bottom panels hang. The top part of the bracket is buried in plates and secured, and the bottom part slips into a receptacle attached to the frame of the ship. This mock-up kind of illustrates the concept: http://imgur.com/Xy1PjHR. Anyway, just throwing that out there if you want to try it. I imagine you're not looking to make any drastic changes at this point, though, heh. Could be working but as you mentioned I have to spend much time for these changes. However, interesting technique and thank you for posting it. Maybe I try it. P.S: Your Tyrant is a masterpiece. I really love the surface structure!!! 19 hours ago, KevinYoung said: Once again congrats an incredible build this is. Thank you. - Philipp Edited December 5, 2016 by Kommander Quote
KevinYoung Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) How do you even break that down for shipping you would have to give a manual or something??? Edited December 6, 2016 by KevinYoung Quote
ChiefPie Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 I don't know if you used LDD to build it before making it with bricks or not, but if you did you could make a instruction mannual and sell that and rebuild the cruiser into something else. Quote
Kommander Posted December 6, 2016 Author Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Hello again! On 31.7.2016 at 10:15 AM, Lego Customs 0401 said: Awesome job so far! I'm building something similar :) I started in september 2013 and I'm somewhere where you are at for the moment :) I'll upload some pictures of my project too. In the meantime you can check mine out on my Mocpage: http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/83528 Just saw your posting... shame on me :( It is a huge advantage to see other techniques that´s why your wip-pictures were a good help during my construction. Unfortunately other builders didn´t shared their destroyer´s inner structure. I wish you susses and I´m looking forward to hearing from your Venator! 12 hours ago, KevinYoung said: How do you even break that down for shipping you would have to give a manual or something??? Maybe I rebuild it with LDD later for manual or as construction help. At least without plating and command tower it is way easier to handle. Like this it is also small enough for the car. 11 hours ago, naugem said: Amazing build! Thank you! 10 hours ago, ChiefPie said: I don't know if you used LDD to build it before making it with bricks or not, but if you did you could make a instruction mannual and sell that and rebuild the cruiser into something else. I have old LDD documents but never used them while processing. Basically everything on the picture below is avaiable. - Philipp Edited December 6, 2016 by Kommander Quote
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