Hate to be that guy but are we going to be getting Skurge as a figure?

1 hour ago, Legocity2713 said:

Hate to be that guy but are we going to be getting Skurge as a figure?

Well according to the set descriptions we've been given no, unless he's been mistaken as a guard/goon in the Asgardian ship set.

Gosh, some of you are nitpicking over the slightest things. Hela's helmet is very accurate. Loki has two different costumes in the movie, we just didn't get the new helmet which is completely fine.  Hulk having blue is understandable, they have never made a silver-blue colored piece, so this was expected.

8 minutes ago, Amazing Bricks said:

Gosh, some of you are nitpicking over the slightest things. Hela's helmet is very accurate. Loki has two different costumes in the movie, we just didn't get the new helmet which is completely fine.  Hulk having blue is understandable, they have never made a silver-blue colored piece, so this was expected.

Finally someone with sense summarized it perfectly. Can't bear the pages of rants and complaints over small details. Let's just be thankful we're finally getting Thor sets.

Honestly the complaints about Hulks shoulder armor are a bit ridiculous. It's one thing if it looks bad, but the fig is really well done.  

For real, maybe it's because I'm old enough to remember when Lego didn't have ANY licenses, I'm always just stoked a minifigure exists, and if it isn't is detailed as I like it to be or doesn't look the way I like, I find half the fun to be customizing it.  Maybe that's just me tho.

Hela's helmet in the film is symbiote technology. It can move independently of her and be a weapon by itself. When she's in full battle mode with it on it covers more of her face than we see here. 

8 minutes ago, PriorMarcus said:

Hela's helmet in the film is symbiote technology. It can move independently of her and be a weapon by itself. When she's in full battle mode with it on it covers more of her face than we see here. 

Where did you get that info? Nicez

Not sure if anyone has said this yet (probably have) but could the Hammer Industries parcel in the biggest Civil War set have been referencing the to be released Detroit Steel Strikes. #EasterEgg

4 hours ago, SpiderJazz said:

Where did you get that info? Nicez

I don't think that has been confirmed yet. I don't buy it...

Anyway, Lego Ragnarok Loki's costume is not the one seen in the trailer when he's wielding the two knives, but his outfit when he's watching the gladiator fight next to Grandmaster. Makes sense for us to get that costume in the gladiator ring set. He also wears that costume in the EW pics we got a few weeks back.

47 minutes ago, Aethersprite said:

I don't think that has been confirmed yet. I don't buy it...

Anyway, Lego Ragnarok Loki's costume is not the one seen in the trailer when he's wielding the two knives, but his outfit when he's watching the gladiator fight next to Grandmaster. Makes sense for us to get that costume in the gladiator ring set. He also wears that costume in the EW pics we got a few weeks back.

Yup, that's why I'm wondering many peeps are whining when in fact we are getting a different costume.

The problem with Loki is the new helm/crown it should be a new mould, but knowing lego will use that old piece from 2012 is no surprise.

1 hour ago, Aethersprite said:

I don't think that has been confirmed yet. I don't buy it...

Anyway, Lego Ragnarok Loki's costume is not the one seen in the trailer when he's wielding the two knives, but his outfit when he's watching the gladiator fight next to Grandmaster. Makes sense for us to get that costume in the gladiator ring set. He also wears that costume in the EW pics we got a few weeks back.

Same costume diferent cape. it's just the lighting and stuff in the arena that makes it look blue. Lego did not make him correctly.

11 minutes ago, deskp said:

Same costume diferent cape. it's just the lighting and stuff in the arena that makes it look blue. Lego did not make him correctly.

Yeah it's a shame. If it isn't for the lighting we would've gotten an awesome Loki minifig

3 minutes ago, IMBATMAN said:

Yeah it's a shame. If it isn't for the lighting we would've gotten an awesome Loki minifig

No its more than just the color that the issue, the actual  printed parts on his torso doesn't match the movie either.

Wow, how terrible. A Loki figure that is blue when the character looks blue in the scene in question. Honestly, will people never be happy? I for one am extremely glad we are getting him at all instead of not getting a new figure. 

8 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

Honestly, will people never be happy?

To be fair, Loki is a really popular character and the big villain for quite a while and Lego hasn't given him a lot of love. The previous variant is very ordinary (especially with that generic face), so I think people were hoping for a more definitive version of him. Loki is best known for wearing green, so I can see why people are upset to get something less iconic. He's a sought after character that Lego produces rather sparingly and this new version is pretty underwhelming.

As for Hela, I don't understand the complaints at all. The black of the helmet extends underneath her eyes in the trailer, just like the Lego piece. It's perfectly accurate. It's actually my favorite minifigure of the bunch.

4 minutes ago, strangely said:

To be fair, Loki is a really popular character and the big villain for quite a while and Lego hasn't given him a lot of love. The previous variant is very ordinary (especially with that generic face), so I think people were hoping for a more definitive version of him. Loki is best known for wearing green, so I can see why people are upset to get something less iconic. He's a sought after character that Lego produces rather sparingly and this new version is pretty underwhelming.

As for Hela, I don't understand the complaints at all. The black of the helmet extends underneath her eyes in the trailer, just like the Lego piece. It's perfectly accurate. It's actually my favorite minifigure of the bunch.

Those are good points, I guess. I understand why some people are unhappy but I'm just thrilled we're getting so many new characters. And yeah, Hela looks awesome. They did a perfect job with her. The only thing that would be better is leg printing, but I'm fine without it. 

4 hours ago, Aethersprite said:

Anyway, Lego Ragnarok Loki's costume is not the one seen in the trailer when he's wielding the two knives, but his outfit when he's watching the gladiator fight next to Grandmaster. Makes sense for us to get that costume in the gladiator ring set. He also wears that costume in the EW pics we got a few weeks back.

That's definitely the same outfit, just with different capes and different cape fasteners.  Both have the same small chevron just below the neck, the same large, wide chevron at the waist, and the same construction of parallel dark leather strips going diagonally down the body. The knife-twirling scene has better lighting and is showing the actual colors of the outfit, but if Lego only got images of the costume in the arena, I don't blame them for thinking it was dark blue rather than black with dark green sleeves and trim.

There is a second Asgardian costume we've seen him wearing in behind the scenes photos, though.  It's a low cut dark green V-neck worn underneath the trench coat he wore in Avengers and The Dark World. The third costume we've seen him in is an Earth-style black two piece suit, with a black shirt and tie to match.

20 hours ago, Ultron said:

I honestly think you're nitpicking over nothing.

13 hours ago, Amazing Bricks said:

Gosh, some of you are nitpicking over the slightest things.

Facts;

• Its not nitpicking to want a movie-based set to be movie-based and it's against Lego's interest to not represent the characters as accurately as possible as it can have a negative effect on sales
• It's not nitpicking to acknowledge factual flaws in the representation and it's arguably silly to dismiss such remarks when the flaws are proven to exist.
• The flaws do exist, there are innacuracies, you can accept them if you want but that doesnt make them vanish
• There are reasons for the flaws, but that does not mean the flaws do not cause issues with accuracy or the figures in general.
• It's not nitpicking to have a varying opinion as to how much the flaws effect the enjoyment of the figures

Just because i am acknowledging the flaws does not mean i'm saying that these are utterly terrible and should'nt be brought. Acknowledging the flaws is primarily what has gotten us a new version of Vision (with a fixed Mind Stone and face), Spider-man (with a fixed Spider insignia) and will hopefully get us updated more accurate versions of other figures.

20 hours ago, Ultron said:

The helmet is an amazing mold and she looks amazing with it on.

13 hours ago, Amazing Bricks said:

Hela's helmet is very accurate.

Facts;

• The helmet is very likely based on concept art, possibly the shot of Hela throwing the sword as the make-up does give the impression that it's more of a helmet rather than a crown - however we've yet to see it actually extend to cover her upper face.
• The helmet does not match the images we have currently seen of it in the movie because it does not cover the upper face. This may occur in a specific scene, but as of now it appears to be innacurate
• The helmet may be somewhat unintentionally accurate to one of the portrayals of Hela in the comics, however the horns are noticeably based on the movie and Hela's horns in the comics are varying designs so it may not be accurate

Personally i agree the helmet is an amazing mold - primarily the horns as i was unsure if Lego would give us the helmet because of them. Each of the horns is represented and the shiloutte of the character is virtually the same. Except in terms of accuracy the covering of the upper face means it is not accurate unless we see the helmet cover the face at some point in the movie. Acknowledging the innacuracy now means that if Hela survives the movie and appears in Infinity War or Avengers 4 they may have enough time to change the helmet, giving us an accurate movie-verse helmet.

13 hours ago, Amazing Bricks said:

Loki has two different costumes in the movie, we just didn't get the new helmet which is completely fine.

Facts;

• The stadium outfit we see here is not blue, meaning the Lego version may be innacurate unless he has a different outfit somewhere else in the movie.

Loki is also a result of them likely seeing a specific image and having to decide for themselves on the colour scheme. They were likely given images showing him in the stands watching the gladitorial match, possibly even in the exact same pose as the trailer. As someone has pointed out the outfit is actually the same, he is just wearing a different cape. The blue'ish tinge is caused by the reflection of the stadium in the glass. The outfit is clearly based on that shot due to the 'V' symbol on his waist. You can tell that the image they were given must not have been as clear as it lacks the shoulder-pad's from the design and presumably Loki's hand was obscuring the 'v' under the neck. The lack of a new helmet is also understandable, as they either did not see the clearer image of him twirling the swords OR realised it would be more cost-effective to re-use the same mold than have a dual-molded helmet with hair for what may or may not be only a couple of scenes.

14 hours ago, Amazing Bricks said:

Hulk having blue is understandable, they have never made a silver-blue colored piece, so this was expected.

This is also understandable as you said, they likely recieved images very close to actual and decided to go with a lighter blue probably because they did not produce the right sort of blue'ish colour. Though you have not mentioned them here, the guards were also likely a decision similar to this - given they wear armour it was likely considered more cost effective to just print the torso and heads rather than produce unique armour for what may be only one or two figures - and at the time they may have simply gotten concept art of the guards.

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In summary;

• Hela's innacuracies are likely based on concept art or unclear images
• Loki's innacuracies are likely based on a combination of unclear images and the decision not to produce a new helmet
• Hulk's innacuracies are likely based on the decision not to introduce a new colour or the difficulty/cost of creating a piece in a certain colour
• The Guard's innacuracies are likely based on a decision to avoid giving them unique armour and helmets

All the flaws in the accuracy are understandable, it's up to you how you feel about them, but that's the whole point of the previous discussion - acknowledging that these flaws do exist rather than trying to say that the flaws do not exist or simply that it's perfectly fine because they may work for other characters or variants. If you want to make use of the flaws for a comic-based version of a figure, then that's up to you - but it still means that the representation we got has flaws that prevent it being movie-accurate which is the whole idea of movie figures.

 

So just to clarify... Hela's helmet that clearly covers her face in the film is inaccurate because it is covering her face?

33 minutes ago, Quicksilver838 said:

So just to clarify... Hela's helmet that clearly covers her face in the film is inaccurate because it is covering her face?

It doesn't cover her face in the trailer. Shes covered in makeup.

48 minutes ago, Quicksilver838 said:

So just to clarify... Hela's helmet that clearly covers her face in the film is inaccurate because it is covering her face?

Yeap, as we have seen the fig it actually cover half of the face while in the trailer it's just make up. IMO, I think that's actually not a big problem as they have put a printing on the part of that headdress.

The headdress still gets the look across. I wouldn't want them to have made a crown-style piece and then try to print the dark black makeup on her face because I don't think it would've come out well. I'm happy with everything that we're getting: yeah, there are some inaccuracies, but there always are. 

What is all the fuss with the Loki figure, it is a good figure. Yes there is minor details that aren't correct but it isn't anything major, just people expecting way more from LEGO. 

1 hour ago, Quicksilver838 said:

So just to clarify... Hela's helmet that clearly covers her face in the film is inaccurate because it is covering her face?

Hela's Helmet in the movie does not cover her face. This is why the helmet covering her face is innacurate at the moment. If an image is found showing the helmet covering the upper face then we can consider it accurate to a specific scene.

15 minutes ago, J3D1-T said:

What is all the fuss with the Loki figure, it is a good figure. Yes there is minor details that aren't correct but it isn't anything major, just people expecting way more from LEGO. 

Many were hoping to get an updated version of the other version of Loki potentially with arm or leg printing. The look of Loki in Avengers, or in general just the green and gold appearance, is much more iconic. Green because of it often symbolising ambition, greed, jealousy. Gold shows power/royalty. It's been a stapple of the Marvel movies to continue this colour scheme and in Thor Ragnarok they do so with Dark Green.

In regards to 'minor details' the issue people have with the figure is simply that it's not accurate and not particularly what people associate with Loki. It'd be similar to getting a dark red Captain America - it just would feel off seeing him wearing dark blue in the movie and getting a dark red figure. Dark Blue for Loki, as such does not really feel like Loki. I can see possibly using the torso for another combatant in the gladiator arena - but it just doesnt match the movie and it does not really feel like a costume for Loki.



At best i can say its an 'ok' figure;
- Inclusion of hair piece
- Face is generic, but getting a scared second expression is nice i suppose
- Torso print is good, but not accurate
- Cape is nice, though not accurate
- No arm/leg print
- Helmet is nice, though may not be accurate to the Ragnarok version

Would be a good figure if accurate colour scheme.

Edited April 11, 20177 yr by Scarilian