Marvel Superheroes 2017 - Set Discussion

[Aethersprite]

1 hour ago, paulsp2012 said:

True. I think its unfortunate that Lego doesn't take into consideration the mass amount of AFOLs out there. I think if they got more mature licenses like Game of Thrones they would sell like hotcakes.

And AFOLs don't take into consideration that the primary market for Lego is kids, not us AFOLs.  I, too, would love to see the Netflix heroes get sets, but I doubt that that's going to happen any time soon.

As for the USM news, Lego has always taken great liberties when it comes to its sets - I don't think the cancellation/renewal of a Spider-Man show would make much difference to the sets!

[Ultron]

38 minutes ago, Aethersprite said:

As for the USM news, Lego has always taken great liberties when it comes to its sets - I don't think the cancellation/renewal of a Spider-Man show would make much difference to the sets!

We could definitely see the sets mirror elements of the show. I think that's at least a fair assumption based on what we've seen. 

[paulsp2012]

1 hour ago, Aethersprite said:

And AFOLs don't take into consideration that the primary market for Lego is kids, not us AFOLs.  I, too, would love to see the Netflix heroes get sets, but I doubt that that's going to happen any time soon.

lol I suppose that's fair. I do wish they would consider other markets though. I think lego could expand their profits immensely if they took a hard look at who actually buys their products.

[Battlinpanther]

Their hesitancy is understandable. Beyond the fact that Marvel simply may not want to license out the Netflix shows, it's not like Lego packages come with a "Warning: These characters are only for adults" warning. 

[ToaDraco]

Over the years, LEGO has become more lax over violent themes as long as the scenes they portray in set form are relatively pg. I doubt they'll ever do any characters based on the Netflix shows but I think that has more to do with target markets and Marvel's wishes to promote the movies over anything else. If the Defenders or the Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider and Agents of SHIELD appear in Infinity War(I sincerely hope they do) or its sequel, we might have a chance. I mean come on, you can't honestly tell me the violence in those shows is as graphic as the first Indiana Jones where you see peoples faces melt off. That scarred me as a kid. It probably has more to do with the adult themes and language if anything. 

As the Ideas sets have tended to be more geared towards AFOLS, it would be interesting if LEGO ever made a series of sets specifically targeted at adult fans. It could simply be titled AFOLS. I have serious doubts it'd ever happen though.

The best we can hope for is getting comic-inspired versions of the characters in regular sets. We need Daredevil at the very least. With the existence of the ear piece from Black Panther and the 3 length bars, there's never been a better time for one to appear. I could see them do something like they did with Suicide Squad where the characters were released in a series of sets with some of them being sortof movie inspired with most being comic-based, but again that was for a movie not a tv show.

Edited October 11, 2016 by ToaDraco

[LegoShroom]

6 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

you can't honestly tell me the violence in those shows is as graphic as the first Indiana Jones where you see peoples faces melt off. That scarred me as a kid.

There's a scene in one of the first few episodes of Season 1 of daredevil where the Kingpin grabs a guy, beats him up and places his head between a car door whereby he repetitively slams the car door on his head until his mushed brains fall out onto the tarmac.  So yes. They can tell you that the violence is as if not more graphic than Indiana Jones. 

[ToaDraco]

2 minutes ago, LegoShroom said:

There's a scene in one of the first few episodes of Season 1 of daredevil where the Kingpin grabs a guy, beats him up and places his head between a car door whereby he repetitively slams the car door on his head until his mushed brains fall out onto the tarmac.  So yes. They can tell you that the violence is as if not more graphic than Indiana Jones. 

Right, but they didn't show his head getting bashed in, we just saw form an angle below the car where blood was falling to the ground with every bash. How many times have we seen that trick in movies, even some that are pg 13. Mind you, it went on for several minutes and the implications were dark but again, we didn't really see that much.

Edited October 11, 2016 by ToaDraco

[LegoShroom]

Just now, ToaDraco said:

Right, but they didn't show his head getting bashed in, we just say form an angle below the car where blood was falling to the ground with every bash. How many times have we seen that trick in movies, even some that are pg 13. Mind you, it went on for several minutes and the implications were dark but again, we didn't really see that much.

Still. Not for kids. Especially when his brains fall out. 

[ToaDraco]

2 minutes ago, LegoShroom said:

Still. Not for kids. Especially when his brains fall out. 

*Sigh* I'm not saying it is, I'm saying officially released LEGO sets have featured scenes from movies with inherently violent subject matter, some worse than what we've seen in the Netflix shows so the argument that we won't get those versions of the characters because of the violent nature of the shows, Daredevil in particular, is inherently flawed. 

[NXS7]

You guys could argue all day, but at the end Daredevil includes mass gore, Jessica Jones has scenes of sexual nature and Luke Cage repeatedly uses the N word. It's still unlikely that we could get AFOL only sets, because they'd need to be in toy stores, and if a little kid saw a set with "Marvel's Daredevil", that's promoting to younger audiences unsuitable for the shows.

 

We just have to face that not everyone we want in LEGO can be made in LEGO

[Borex]

Daredevil is more than a netflix show of course. I think he's perfectly suitable for lego and i still expect lego to make him someday soon. Just put him in a team-up with spidey like ghostrider. Punisher as well.  

Are there official pictures already? I'm eager to see Miss Marvel. I'd like to know if she'll have new armpieces to fit those hoses (her arms)? And if those arms are bendable and will stay in any position you'd like?

[vstat05]

Yeah, not even DC is releasing sets based on any of their live action TV shows, although they did have comic versions of Supergirl, Green Arrow, Flash and his villains all released in the same wave. We already have gotten Iron Fist and Luke Cage, whether we like USM or not, and really I think it's clear that these Marvel cartoons and now even Agents of Shield (judging by the Ghost Rider and Detroit Steel sets) are the shows that will be drawn inspiration from. It just seems like any direct live action TV show material is saved for comic con exclusive figures.

Edited October 11, 2016 by Raptor of Vengeance

[Battlinpanther]

2 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

*Sigh* I'm not saying it is, I'm saying officially released LEGO sets have featured scenes from movies with inherently violent subject matter, some worse than what we've seen in the Netflix shows so the argument that we won't get those versions of the characters because of the violent nature of the shows, Daredevil in particular, is inherently flawed. 

Not really, because the situation is beyond the violence. Jessica Jone =

 

2 hours ago, Quicksilver838 said:

You guys could argue all day, but at the end Daredevil includes mass gore, Jessica Jones has scenes of sexual nature and Luke Cage repeatedly uses the N word. It's still unlikely that we could get AFOL only sets, because they'd need to be in toy stores, and if a little kid saw a set with "Marvel's Daredevil", that's promoting to younger audiences unsuitable for the shows.

 

We just have to face that not everyone we want in LEGO can be made in LEGO

That's basically the crux of it. Marvel does not want kids associating those shows with their more family-friendly movies. I'd mentioned it a few months ago but there were interviews with the staff of the Lego Avengers game where they were pretty much told that exactly. They were allowed to do stuff from the movies, Agents of SHIELD and even Agent Carter, but the Netflix shows were absolutely off-limits. 

That's why I earlier said it's doubtful Marvel would license the Netflix shows to Lego to begin with.

Edited October 11, 2016 by Battlinpanther

[vstat05]

4 minutes ago, Battlinpanther said:

Not really, because the situation is beyond the violence. Jessica Jone =

 

That's basically the crux of it. Marvel does not want kids associating those shows with their more family-friendly movies. I'd mentioned it a few months ago but there were interviews with the staff of the Lego Avengers game where they were pretty much told that exactly. They were allowed to do stuff from the movies, Agents of SHIELD and even Agent Carter, but the Netflix shows were absolutely off-limits. 

This is our explanation then. It doesn't matter if we've had themes with far worse implications, the licensers decide what they want to promote and what's off limits. As if we haven't heard that already with the other issue of fox owned Marvel characters.

[TheBrickBuilder14]

Just a question, I haven't been following this thread closely so forgive me if I am beating a dead horse but are we expecting any comic book based Spider-Man set next summer? I really love all the classic comic based characters that we got this year and am hoping that next year we'll get a few more. Again sorry if this is a stupid question.

[NXS7]

42 minutes ago, TheBrickBuilder14 said:

Just a question, I haven't been following this thread closely so forgive me if I am beating a dead horse but are we expecting any comic book based Spider-Man set next summer? I really love all the classic comic based characters that we got this year and am hoping that next year we'll get a few more. Again sorry if this is a stupid question.

As of yet we know only 3x Mighty Micros, 3x Assorted Avengers sets, 3x GotGv2 and Brick heads

[Im a brickmaster.]

I'm not asking for sets based on the show(s) I would just like a Daredevil minifgure, because he is cool and clasic Marvel

[paulsp2012]

2 hours ago, Im a brickmaster. said:

I'm not asking for sets based on the show(s) I would just like a Daredevil minifgure, because he is cool and clasic Marvel

Agreed. Also add to that a Kilgrave fig. Make him look like David Tennant though lol

Edited October 12, 2016 by paulsp2012

[Spoddy]

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Edited February 17, 2021 by Spoddy

[Savage Oppress]

what's weird is that Agents of SHIELD is now on Season 4 and LEGO hasn't taken advantage of it to hype up the show with some sets. 

[TheBrickBuilder14]

59 minutes ago, Savage Oppress said:

what's weird is that Agents of SHIELD is now on Season 4 and LEGO hasn't taken advantage of it to hype up the show with some sets. 

Well we are getting a Coulson figure this wave so I suppose that Agents of Shield might have gotten something to do with that. Also the target audience for Lego are kids and I am not sure if many kids are watching a show like agents of shield so it might not get the right exposure for them to release sets based on a show like that.

[NXS7]

2 minutes ago, TheBrickBuilder14 said:

Well we are getting a Coulson figure this wave so I suppose that Agents of Shield might have gotten something to do with that. Also the target audience for Lego are kids and I am not sure if many kids are watching a show like agents of shield so it might not get the right exposure for them to release sets based on a show like that.

Coulson's really a one of kinda thing, he's been in Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Avengers, plus his role in Ultimate Spider Man, so kids would know who he is outside AoS

[BaneShake]

20 hours ago, paulsp2012 said:

Agreed. Also add to that a Kilgrave fig. Make him look like David Tennant though lol

There's no way we're getting him. Even comics Purple Man is far too family-unfriendly for an appearance, and he's actually purple, so Tennant's appearance is double-unlikely.

[ToaDraco]

I regret even saying anything. I know we'll never get Netflix versions in official sets nor did I ever imply that they can or should, I was just pointing out a flaw in the argument. Regardless, I want a Daredevil minifig, it was up at the top of the list right under Ghost Rider. Now that I have my favorite comic book character of all time in official LEGO form, Daredevil is long overdue. OBVIOUSLY a comic-inspired one. I doubt we'll ever get Punisher but I would like actual Luke Cage, Jewel and Ironfist minifigs for a complete Defenders team. The USM Powerman and Ironfist weren't very good tbh. Blade is another that's toward the top of my list. Moon Knight would be good too but he's probably a bit more obscure to be used in a set.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

Not to keep running this discussion in circles, but I think MCU versions of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist are all totally plausible, so long as they put those versions in the right places. If they show up in Infinity War, or even Avengers Assemble (whatever they're calling it these days) they could be justified in sets. The comic versions are all clearly still on the table, though, and I'd call a Daredevil minifig inevitable at this point. As for Agents of SHIELD, we're on the cusp of that answer as we speak with the Cuusoo set. I saw a website report on it, suggesting that the set might want to update its cast to match up with the current season. Seems like as good an excuse as any to get a Robbie Reyes minifig! 

On 10/9/2016 at 9:50 PM, Ultron said:

Well, yes and no. They may have stopped running them under the name "ultimate" Spider-man, but they're still influenced by the show. This last season, I believe, was Web-Warriors, which is what the bridge battle is of. White Tiger is also in the Doc-Ock set. The designs are definitely more comic based, but the show influence is there. 

It's all about marketing, that. The same reason we got Deadshot, Captain Boomerang, Killer Croc, and Katana over on the DC side this year, and why we got Ghost Rider: simply capitalizing on what's being introduced to the market. It's a lot easier to sell these guys when you know for sure they're relevant.

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

I regret even saying anything. I know we'll never get Netflix versions in official sets nor did I ever imply that they can or should, I was just pointing out a flaw in the argument. Regardless, I want a Daredevil minifig, it was up at the top of the list right under Ghost Rider. Now that I have my favorite comic book character of all time in official LEGO form, Daredevil is long overdue. OBVIOUSLY a comic-inspired one. I doubt we'll ever get Punisher but I would like actual Luke Cage, Jewel and Ironfist minifigs for a complete Defenders team. The USM Powerman and Ironfist weren't very good tbh. Blade is another that's toward the top of my list. Moon Knight would be good too but he's probably a bit more obscure to be used in a set.

I could definitely go for an updated Power Man and Iron Fist. I think we could easily get Punisher. It's a guy with a gun and a van, he's just screaming for a set. Whether he's framed as the hero or the villain is the question, but Punisher seems definite. I'd say we'll get the Defenders in loose tie-in sets when the show comes out, sorta like the Suicide Squad. Blade might be a longer wait, but Moon Knight? He's a fan favorite, and we're getting Detroit Steel and the Super Adaptoid this year. He's got a better chance than he probably should lol