Technic 2017 Set Discussion

[Kaanere]

3 hours ago, Emmi said:

Can anyone estimate the parts count for the BMW motorbike ... I'd say around 650-700 ... is that realistic?

I bet that it will be between 500 and 600.

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

11 hours ago, dhc6twinotter said:

Most of those sets look a bit kiddish and functionless, but I do really like the BMW motorcycle, and the plane isn't bad.  The plane does seem a bit dissproportional and would've benefited from a set of canards, but I am a sucker for aviation related sets, so it's always nice to see another.

 

Same here. Planes are always welcome!

[Emmi]

3 hours ago, LvdH said:

At only 50$, if anything,  Emmi's guess is too high if you consider the 10 cent/piece rule. Then there's the license as well.

I don't think the license will raise the price. I think 650 pieces are possible indeed ... hopefully even more :)

[Bering]

First half of 2017 seems to be kid-related. Nothing wrong with that. This year we adults have been spoiled with the best Technic year ever. Thanks LEGO!

Edited September 29, 2016 by Bering

[kuja2015]

2 hours ago, BrickHat said:

Same here. Planes are always welcome!

 

36 minutes ago, Bering said:

First half of 2017 seems to be kid-related. Nothing wrong with that. This year we adults have been spoiled with the best Technic year ever. Thanks LEGO!

Excluding the BMW I can agree with you guys. How is the BMW Kiddish? 

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Edited September 29, 2016 by kuja2015
Wrong spelling

[allanp]

Well it is only the first half so it's bound to be a little kiddish for our tastes. I'm still reserving judgement until we know about the functionality and possible new parts. But it does look as though colour vomit has been tamed a little, though that might be due to the low quality pictures or because they are preliminary designs. I also like that we'll be getting some more dark blue parts. The look of the jet is....interesting. I think the wings need to be a bit larger though.

[kevinb120]

I'm sorry but even if they are tweaking these a little bit, this new collection for 2017 is rubbish.  I'll buy the BMW because I love technic bikes and there's usually quite a few moc alternatives to build, hopefully the b model is better(like a classic bike!?).  Plus most bikes are at the same 'scale' with the wheels and they can be easily mixed and matched.   The jet is horrible.  Good news is I can focus on getting all of the top 2015/2016 sets as this seems to be the pinnacle of technic, with such lovely models like like the claas, and the bargain price champion fire plane. 

Edited September 29, 2016 by kevinb120

[legotechnicisawesome]

8 hours ago, LvdH said:

At only 50$, if anything,  Emmi's guess is too high if you consider the 10 cent/piece rule. Then there's the license as well.

i thought it was £50 not $50!

[Gnac]

43 minutes ago, kevinb120 said:

I can focus on getting all of the top 2015/2016 sets as this seems to be the pinnacle of technic, with such lovely models like like the claas, and the bargain price champion fire plane.

Those are 2H sets, aren't they? I vaguely remember similar disappointment at the 1H offerings from this year. Maybe wait until the 2017 Nuremburg Toy Fair for 2H reveals before writing the whole theme off.

[legotechnicisawesome]

3 hours ago, kuja2015 said:

 

Excluding the BMW I can agree with you guys. How is the BMW Kiddish? 

After years of following this site I finaly created an account.

welcome to the communty!

 

45 minutes ago, kevinb120 said:

I'm sorry but even if they are tweaking these a little bit, this new collection for 2017 is rubbish.  I'll buy the BMW because I love technic bikes and there's usually quite a few moc alternatives to build, hopefully the b model is better(like a classic bike!?).  Plus most bikes are at the same 'scale' with the wheels and they can be easily mixed and matched.   The jet is horrible.  Good news is I can focus on getting all of the top 2015/2016 sets as this seems to be the pinnacle of technic, with such lovely models like like the claas, and the bargain price champion fire plane. 

the tracked racer is a bargen for lime green and pf parts though!

 

2 minutes ago, Gnac said:

Those are 2H sets, aren't they? I vaguely remember similar disappointment at the 1H offerings from this year. Maybe wait until the 2017 Nuremburg Toy Fair for 2H reveals before writing the whole theme off.

aggreed, the 1h is good for me too though

[paul_delahaye]

The Jet looks alright, despite the messy colour scheme, I am having flashbacks of the colour scheme on the Crazy car from earlier this year.  

I like the ship, looks a little minimal on features, a bit like an anchor handler in design, not sure about the windows though, dodgy stickers or new parts?

For me, Container Transport is one of my favourites, despite the set looking a little hollow, I think it looks ok.  Certainly a playable set.

The tele handler is ok, appears that rule about only using the new telescoping part on the Volvo flagship of 2014 only lasted for 12 months.  

The tracked racer, it will be interesting to see how the new power functions might work, or whether it's just the old simple stuff?  

The smaller sets don't do much for me, 

[legotechnicisawesome]

7 minutes ago, paul_delahaye said:

The tele handler is ok, appears that rule about only using the new telescoping part on the Volvo flagship of 2014 only lasted for 12 months. 

what telesoping part?

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

4 hours ago, kuja2015 said:

 

Excluding the BMW I can agree with you guys. How is the BMW Kiddish? 

After years of following this site I finaly created an account.

Welcome to EB! Glad you can now participate in our discussions.

[kevinb120]

2 hours ago, legotechnicisawesome said:

welcome to the communty!

 

the tracked racer is a bargen for lime green and pf parts though!

 

aggreed, the 1h is good for me too though

I'll give you that, the tracked racer looks to be a good kit.  I'm not big on the rc Lego(outside of construction equipment)with brushless 1/10 trucks and 600 size helis in the other hobby room...

 

I would say the tracked racer is the only thing so far that seems like a proper follow up to this year, unless that ship looks a LOT better without all the cumbersome faux effects in the pic. I'm getting the BMW regardless because technic motorcycle.

 

I may pop for the tracked racer if it looks like it could parlay into rc tanks 

 

Edited September 29, 2016 by kevinb120

[Kman860]

So, can anyone confirm if the racer is RC?

[Kaanere]

2 hours ago, Kman860 said:

So, can anyone confirm if the racer is RC?

Yes, I can. It is.

[legotechnicisawesome]

5 hours ago, Kman860 said:

So, can anyone confirm if the racer is RC?

look on the box, it says it has pf and everything!

 

8 hours ago, kevinb120 said:

I'll give you that, the tracked racer looks to be a good kit.  I'm not big on the rc Lego(outside of construction equipment)with brushless 1/10 trucks and 600 size helis in the other hobby room...

i want one of those trucks!! maybe i will build a full scale one from lego..

[AOW]

20 hours ago, Kaanere said:

I bet that it will be between 500 and 600.

The biggest Motorcycle by Lego Technic in count of parts so far was the : 8420 from 2005 with 506 parts. Followed by 8051 (Motorbike) from 2010 with 467parts, also Expert Builder 857 from 1979 had 409 parts (this was also made as 8857 in 1980 with the same count). Later we had the 8857 (Street Chopper) with 378p, then 42036 with 375p, 8417/8430 with 318/317p and 8422 (Circuit Stock Racer) from 1998 with 315 - all other bikes were under 300 parts. 

 

[Siegfried Meyer]

11 hours ago, paul_delahaye said:

The tele handler is ok, appears that rule about only using the new telescoping part on the Volvo flagship of 2014 only lasted for 12 months.  , 

I think You refer to the  MB Arocs 42043 of 2015 and not the Volvo L350F of 2014 

[model850]

Tumbler tyres from 76023 set were also exclusive but here we have them repearing again in last years Drag racer set 42050 :P

Edited September 30, 2016 by model850
grammar error

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

1 hour ago, model850 said:

Tumbler tyres from 76023 set were also exclusive but here we have them repearing again in lat years Drag racer set 42050 :P

Somehow I failed to notice that before. Looks like I'll be getting some extras!

[model850]

I guess parts have to be made in large quantities for them to pay off and since sets with "exclusive" parts are in most cases are expensive ones this "one time deal" of "exclusiveness" would never actally pay off. :/ 

[N-4K0]

When you consider that, as the previous post said, sets and "investment" in the form of new molds and parts have to pay off, I don't really see the point with special parts exclusive to only one or a few sets.
Unless it's one or more existing parts in a new color, limited to only one set as we saw with the dark blue in 41999 at the time, I imagine that doesn't cost too much since they only need to make the parts in a new color and don't have to make a completely new mold.

[Blakbird]

11 hours ago, AOW said:

The biggest Motorcycle by Lego Technic in count of parts so far was the : 8420 from 2005 with 506 parts. Followed by 8051 (Motorbike) from 2010 with 467parts, also Expert Builder 857 from 1979 had 409 parts (this was also made as 8857 in 1980 with the same count). Later we had the 8857 (Street Chopper) with 378p, then 42036 with 375p, 8417/8430 with 318/317p and 8422 (Circuit Stock Racer) from 1998 with 315 - all other bikes were under 300 parts. 

You can't really use part count to compare old and new sets.  857 is by far the biggest motorcycle in terms of overall volume even though it does not have the most parts.

[deehtha]

Where did TLG say the tumbler tires and the telescoping parts were exclusive to their sets? I only saw where the community made that judgement. I imagine in the next two years, we will see the round panels from the Porsche on another set.