Technic 2017 Set Discussion

[suffocation]

1 hour ago, MegaRoi said:

Little bit strange, that you can order the set already from Amazon in Japan but not in Europe ... 

It's been available in Switzerland for several days now.

[Kmuffin]

9 minutes ago, suffocation said:

It's been available in Switzerland for several days now.

Where? Cause i could ask one of my freind's coming from there in the following weeks to buy me one.

[suffocation]

galaxus.ch

[Jonfensu]

According to an interview,  Milan is the designer of the RC Tracker 42065

Interview

Also this pic show us another inside view 

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Let's see what kind of animal he can turn that set into

And according to that article Milan didn't have a formal education in engineer or design; he studied English and taught at an elementary school before moving to Lego. This guy must be a genius!

Edited December 9, 2016 by nguyengiangoc

[technic_addict]

2 hours ago, nguyengiangoc said:

Let's see what kind of animal he can turn that set into

And according to that article Milan didn't have a formal education in engineer or design; he studied English and taught at an elementary school before moving to Lego. This guy must be a genius!

Have an Engineering or technical backround can certainly help with certain aspects of design; however, I personally believe artistic people make better designs.

[Kmuffin]

5 hours ago, suffocation said:

galaxus.ch

Thanks! Might have to see if i can. Seems to me there are other sets too. I moght skip the bike and get the 42061 and 42065. Im hoping to get them or just wait for them to come to my country.

[Maaboo the Witch]

3 hours ago, Jonfensu said:

According to an interview,  Milan is the designer of the RC Tracker 42065

Interview

Also this pic show us another inside view 

Well, my Slovakian sucks, unfortunately, so I guess I'll just have to wait for the official interview. 

While it's not the most technically exciting set out there, this really isn't that bad. It's definitely built for play rather than the build. And I like just about anything designed by Grohl, so it gets a happy glance from me. 

[Miscman]

Seeng 42065 in profile for the first time we can see the pulley wheels are not vertically aligned. This was hard to see in all of the other pics. Odd but cool. 

[1gor]

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Maaboo35 said:

Well, my Slovakian sucks, unfortunately, so I guess I'll just have to wait for the official interview. 

While it's not the most technically exciting set out there, this really isn't that bad. It's definitely built for play rather than the build. And I like just about anything designed by Grohl, so it gets a happy glance from me. 

...but Your Slowakian does not suck as google traslator...even Indians english is better

Edited December 9, 2016 by I_Igor

[Richard Dower]

On 8/12/2016 at 7:38 AM, Kmuffin said:

I would love to see a much darker blue in lego technic but before that We need more parts in dark blue. The 41999 was the only set with a good variety of dark blue parts and the 42055 has some too. The record breaker form 2015 had 2 of the curved panels but nothing else.

the ship has several Dark Blue elements that were previosuly only found in 41999, it also appears we will get two new panel types in Dark Blue.

those who want to part out and missed 41999 will be happy.

4 hours ago, Maaboo35 said:

Well, my Slovakian sucks, unfortunately, so I guess I'll just have to wait for the official interview. 

While it's not the most technically exciting set out there, this really isn't that bad. It's definitely built for play rather than the build. And I like just about anything designed by Grohl, so it gets a happy glance from me. 

simple set and design, not many parts either....not sure its worth €70?....where is the money going

also, what the hell are these?

12 hours ago, Dyen said:

Hi everyone :) I am new here, I am from Czech Republic.
I found today this new video of fast building 42063 BMW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Yq8DWGEho

that was cool....is the use of the steering arms a first for Technic bikes?....i dont think i have seen that used before?

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=57515&colorID=85&in=A

 

11 hours ago, MegaRoi said:

Wow, what a huge 42063 box! Much bigger than expected and two BI booklets that look very good. They seem to be a little bit like the Porsche or Architecture BIs, with background information and again improved quality. If this will be the new standard, I would be very excited.

Great Job TLG!

Black rims, new panels in new colors and a bunch of new parts, I can't wait to get my hand on that set!

Little bit strange, that you can order the set already from Amazon in Japan but not in Europe ... 

i will deffo buy this, but for the A model....i might build the B just to see what it is like though. yes...having the two booklets is good value for this set. the Black rims will be good to have for MOCing bikes.

5 hours ago, technic_addict said:

Have an Engineering or technical backround can certainly help with certain aspects of design; however, I personally believe artistic people make better designs.

its a combination really....some technical knowledge is needed for the Technic line.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Richard Dower

[Banana92]

Having 42059, I must say in person it doesn't look like it has as much of a forward rake as I was worried about, it's a decent set, though to me on it's own it doesn't have a lot of surprise, the medium azure is the redeeming quality, and I just rebuilt it into a buggy for now.

[Gnac]

That pull-back motor really does have a lot of strength to keep it from slipping down there

[Kmuffin]

3 hours ago, Banana92 said:

Having 42059, I must say in person it doesn't look like it has as much of a forward rake as I was worried about, it's a decent set, though to me on it's own it doesn't have a lot of surprise, the medium azure is the redeeming quality, and I just rebuilt it into a buggy for now.

Nice b model . I did the same thing to the getaway racer. Turned it into a buggy.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Kmuffin

[Banana92]

9 hours ago, Kmuffin said:

Nice b model . I did the same thing to the getaway racer. Turned it into a buggy.

Lol so did I... except it drives in reverse  I tried to make that buggy use all of the parts minus spares from the original model, I originally had a decent pile left and had to incorporate the left over parts, harder then I thought, but I like it then the truck honestly.

[Vectormatic]

On 12/9/2016 at 10:24 AM, Dyen said:

Hi everyone :) I am new here, I am from Czech Republic.
I found today this new video of fast building 42063 BMW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Yq8DWGEho

I like it!

I dont quite understand the front suspension yet, but ill figure that out when i add it to the collection. Ill also probably get rid of the panier boxes and just add those nice grey frames to the partsbin.

[Cumulonimbus]

2 hours ago, vectormatic said:

... I dont quite understand the front suspension yet..

Maybe the image below of the real front suspension (called telelever by BMW) can help: The two tubes of the front fork (the stanchions) can telescope, but there is no spring or oil damper inside, like in a traditional bike. Instead the spring/damper assembly is mounted on a wishbone, similarly to cars. The connecting hinge between the fork and the wishbone must be able to cope with the up and down movement of an uneven road and the left-right movement of steering simultaneously, hence it needs to be a ball joint.

This system has a number of advantages: automatic anti diving effect during braking, lower unsprung weight gives better contact on uneven roads and less stick-slip in the telescopic part to name a few. Disadvantages are the increased overall weight compared to traditional system and it requires more space making the fuel tank sit higher up for example (bad for center of gravity).

Edited December 10, 2016 by Cumulonimbus

[Dyen]

Review of 42061! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h007eeOl2_c
 

[Maaboo the Witch]

Looks like a great set! Must-buy for me.

[Vectormatic]

14 hours ago, Cumulonimbus said:

Maybe the image below of the real front suspension (called telelever by BMW) can help: The two tubes of the front fork (the stanchions) can telescope, but there is no spring or oil damper inside, like in a traditional bike. Instead the spring/damper assembly is mounted on a wishbone, similarly to cars. The connecting hinge between the fork and the wishbone must be able to cope with the up and down movement of an uneven road and the left-right movement of steering simultaneously, hence it needs to be a ball joint.

This system has a number of advantages: automatic anti diving effect during braking, lower unsprung weight gives better contact on uneven roads and less stick-slip in the telescopic part to name a few. Disadvantages are the increased overall weight compared to traditional system and it requires more space making the fuel tank sit higher up for example (bad for center of gravity).

 

Thanks!

I hadnt noticed before that the upper wishbone was fixed in place, in my mind they were both free to move up and down, and with no triangular geometry with the arms and the shock i figured it would all move freely.

[Cumulonimbus]

Yes, that upper wishbone in the 42063 confused me a bit as well the first time is saw it, since the three degrees of freedom of a ball joint are not necessary at this point. The R1200GS MOC I once started had a normal frictionless pin connection there, but as I found out, the tricky thing is then to match the angle of the fork with the axis of the pivot point in the frame. This solution makes a more compact build possible, so it is a clever design choice of the designer of this set.

I'm really curious about the travel of the front suspension in the 42063. As far a I can see, I think it is  only 1 stud or less.

[MegaRoi]

Hi there,

a few pages ago I showed my replica of the BMW, which was build after the first pictures. Meanwhile I found out, that Lego solved the front suspension a little bit different: they used 5L beams and I used 3L beams under the tank. But it doesn't change the main princip.

As you can see, the upper wishbone is connected fixed to the frame, same with the steering bar. The lower wishbone can pivot at the frame and is fixed at front fork. So the suspension is done between the fixed upper and pivoting lower wishbone.

Too bad, I had only soft springs left, which can't stand the weight of the cycle.

The travel of the suspension is about 1 1/2 studs, check the yellow half bush.

I saw in the fast build video, that the original set is different, but it should work in the same way.

 

Something for the holidays and for the start of Rogue One:

The buildable Star Wars figures fit perfect on Lego motorbikes ....

 

[Richard Dower]

1 1/2 studs travel?....awful, in fact....most of the techinc sets with suspension have awful stud length travel distance. most are only 1-3 studs travel. the only real exception is the unimog with has excellent suspension an travel distance.

[Kmuffin]

I'm still waiting for the rumors of 2h sets. When will it be most likely for them to be teased? I'm expecting by Christmas they will be rumored.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

32 minutes ago, Kmuffin said:

I'm still waiting for the rumors of 2h sets. When will it be most likely for them to be teased? I'm expecting by Christmas they will be rumored.

The rumors will be available at the end of Jan.