Jim Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 REVIEW SBRICK PLUSINTRODUCTION It feels like yesterday, but it's already over two years ago that Vengit introduced us to the SBrick! The SBrick is a versatile LEGO compatible component, used to control your PF elements via a smart phone or tablet. The Kickstarter project reached its goal and SBrick was born. Two years later a new family member is introduced, the SBrick Plus. Sounds like an SBrick with additional functionality. Well, let me tell you a secret...it is! The form factor of the SBrick Plus has remained the same. So have the four connectors. The SBrick Plus is fully compatible with the SBrick. The difference between the regular SBrick and the SBrick Plus is that the Plus version is able to communicate with the two available WeDo 1.0 sensors: Motion sensor Tilt sensor The following descriptions have been copied from LEGO Engineering.MOTION SENSOR The motion sensor (part 9583) can detect objects very roughly up to 15 cm away, depending on the shape of the object and other properties (reflection, colour, etc.). It is sometimes called a distance sensor. Very technical details: The motion sensor is an active IR (infrared) sensor. One of the visible parts emits a light while the other is the detector. The LED light is pulsed at 7 kHz. You might be able to see (and show) the flashing light using a camera phone. The sensor can work with 5 to 9 volts, with the WeDo set at 5 volts.TILT SENSOR The tilt sensor (part 9584) detects changes in position. It can detect six different positions: tilt this way, tilt that way, tilt up, tilt down, no tilt and any tilt. On occasion, the vibration of the motor will interfere with the accuracy of the tilt sensor. The fix for this is to design a construction in which the motor vibrations are isolated from the sensor. In this topic I will demonstrate several aspects of the SBrick Plus, starting with the WeDo 1.0 motion sensor. This review will be expanded with more information and videos later.TEST MODEL To test the SBrick I have made MOD of two copies of the 42035 - Mining Truck. The only extra parts I used are some PF elements: 1x PF Servo Motor 1x PF L Motor 1x PF Battery Box 1x PF LEDs 1x PF Extension Cord In the rear of the vehicle I have mounted the PF Battery Box. The SBrick Plus is tucked away in the middle of the vehicle.MOTION SENSOR For my first video, the Motion Sensor is attached to the roof of the model. For this video I have connected the SBrick Plus to an HTC running Android. In the introduction you can see the SBrick Plus test screen. Here you can connect to the SBrick Plus and test the ports. I have attached the Motion Sensor to Port A. The distance measured by the sensor as I move my hand closer is displayed next to the port. I have also attached a set of PF LEDs, which can be tested by sliding the Port B slider. In the profile designer I have created a sequence which will blink the LEDs a couple of times. Creating sequences is something you can do with the regular SBrick as well. So, we have blinking LEDs and we have a motion sensor. Now what?! Well, we need to create a circuit to let the sensor values determine the action. As you can see in the video there are different Logical options to make a circuit. For this demonstration I will use the "On change" option. When my hand is close to the object, the circuit triggers the sequence called "Flashing Lights". Let's take a look at the final result. As you can see the Flashing Light sequence is nicely started when my hand is close to the sensor. The WeDo sensors aren't very accurate, but they are accurate enough to detect an object in front of the sensor, which results in lots of possibilities.CONCLUSION I needed some time to get used to creating circuits and sequences, but when you have done this once or twice, it's really easy to accomplish. The profile editor truly is a work of art. I love the fact that you can modify the graphical elements of all controls, resulting in a personalized smart remote. Do you need to get an SBrick Plus instead of a regular SBrick?! That obviously depends on your need to use WeDo sensors. When you are creating demonstration models, the SBrick Plus adds a lot of value. When you like to manually control your model, the regular SBrick might suffice. Is your regular SBrick depricated now? No, it definitely isn't. SBrick can be mixed with SBrick Plus in the same profile, so there's alway use for your current SBrick. Controlling your model with a regular SBrick, while the SBrick Plus listens to the sensors and acts accordingly. That's a win-win situation. All things considered I really like the SBrick Plus, so I definitely recommend getting one, or two. I will add more information to this topic in a later stadium. More information about this project and the possibility to back it can be found on the Kickstarter page of SBrick Plus.SBRICK PLUS TESTED BY PAUL Here is another video made by Paul "Crowkillers" Boratko. Quote
Imanol BB Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 That is really cool Jim, nice review, good to see new things coming form the SBrick. Quote
2LegoOrNot2Lego... Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Did also check the KS video from SBrick and I really love the new options. Your review sure adds to it...thanks Jim for this review and for your support to have the SBrick team listening to us, it's very much appreciated! After all that's what a community is about, right? :-) Quote
fred-eric Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Once again the hardware looks amazing but I am still disappointed with the android app... Quote
Jim Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, fred-eric said: Once again the hardware looks amazing but I am still disappointed with the android app... What are you disappointed about? I have been working with the latest version of the Android app and I must admit that it worked pretty well. Maybe the update (this week) will solve your issues. Quote
tismabrick Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 While I think the SBrick Plus has a lot of potential I will wait until it's done. Especially the software part will take quite some time as we learned from the normal SBrick. I wished that the SBrick Plus would have support for WeDo 2.0 out of the box and not just "maybe later". I hoped they would've developed a strong rechargable battery pack to support SBricks. We'll keep an eye on it though :) Quote
Jody Meyer Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 I have been following the Sbrick since it has come out, I don't own on as of yet but I am sure in due time. Jim, thank you for the update and that is an awesome build. Also how do you get such an awesome opportunity to get your hands on this stuff.... Quote
Jim Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jody Meyer said: I have been following the Sbrick since it has come out, I don't own on as of yet but I am sure in due time. Jim, thank you for the update and that is an awesome build. Also how do you get such an awesome opportunity to get your hands on this stuff.... Thanks. I have been in contact with the guys at Vengit (SBrick) from the beginning. They like involvement of the bigger online communities, and I am lucky and thankful to be a part of one. Quote
zux Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Does the Plus version look exactly the same? Is there a way of distinguishing between two available versions? Quote
Meatman Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 I will definitely need to get me one of these little gems. Quote
Jim Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 56 minutes ago, zux said: Does the Plus version look exactly the same? Is there a way of distinguishing between two available versions? They look exactly the same. Maybe there's a ID or something somewhere, but I'm not really sure. Let me get back on that one. Quote
pasztorl Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jim said: They look exactly the same. Maybe there's a ID or something somewhere, but I'm not really sure. Let me get back on that one. The SBrick Plus will have white case and blue indicator LED by default. Quote
Rob Klingberg Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Looks like a good product, and I backed it on Kickstarter. My only question: WeDo 1.0? I can't even find those sensors for sale anywhere, and when I do find a few, they are frightfully expensive. And haven't they been discontinued? Quote
LEGO Train 12 Volts Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Very interesting review ...thanks for sharing these tips with us! Quote
DTom Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rob Klingberg said: My only question: WeDo 1.0? I can't even find those sensors for sale anywhere, and when I do find a few, they are frightfully expensive. And haven't they been discontinued? https://education.lego.com/en-us/elementary/shop/wedo?replacementparts=5 Edited October 11, 2016 by DTom Quote
Jim Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 13 hours ago, Rob Klingberg said: Looks like a good product, and I backed it on Kickstarter. My only question: WeDo 1.0? I can't even find those sensors for sale anywhere, and when I do find a few, they are frightfully expensive. And haven't they been discontinued? That's actually a very good question. I haven't given the availability of the sensors much thought. I bought them on Bricklink, but even that is a problem right now. @pasztorl What is your stance on the availability? Quote
TamasMisik Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 14 hours ago, Rob Klingberg said: Looks like a good product, and I backed it on Kickstarter. My only question: WeDo 1.0? I can't even find those sensors for sale anywhere, and when I do find a few, they are frightfully expensive. And haven't they been discontinued? The wedo 1.0 sensors will be available in our webstore soon. We can ship them by FedEx worldwide. -> https://sbrickstore.com We will sell them same price as LEGO (25$) Quote
Jim Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, TamasMisik said: The wedo 1.0 sensors will be available in our webstore soon. We can ship them by FedEx worldwide. -> https://sbrickstore.com We will sell them same price as LEGO (25$) Nice!! That's great news. Quote
tismabrick Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Why do they initially (out-of-the-box) only support the older WeDo sensors now that Lego upgraded them to version 2.0. That's a flaw in my opionion. Could it be that they need money to fix the Firmware and the support of the older sensors was an easy catch? Just guessing :) Quote
Jim Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, tismabrick said: Why do they initially (out-of-the-box) only support the older WeDo sensors now that Lego upgraded them to version 2.0. That's a flaw in my opionion. Could it be that they need money to fix the Firmware and the support of the older sensors was an easy catch? Just guessing :) My best guess is that the WeDo 1.0 sensor connectors are compatible with PF while the 2.0 ones aren't Quote
pasztorl Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Jim said: My best guess is that the WeDo 1.0 sensor connectors are compatible with PF while the 2.0 ones aren't In WeDo 2.0 the PF connector has changed and (of course) it is not compatible only with LEGO, and (of course) LEGO is patented the new connector. Anyway, we will ask them about it if the campgain successful. Quote
Rob Klingberg Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 7 hours ago, TamasMisik said: The wedo 1.0 sensors will be available in our webstore soon. We can ship them by FedEx worldwide. -> https://sbrickstore.com We will sell them same price as LEGO (25$) That is good news indeed, thank you for sharing. Did you do some sort of bulk purchase of the sensors? :-) Quote
fred-eric Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 3:25 PM, Jim said: What are you disappointed about? I have been working with the latest version of the Android app and I must admit that it worked pretty well. Maybe the update (this week) will solve your issues. On my S5 the apps still crash and I have also connection problems some time I hope google will help to fix it. Thank you for the information about the new version ;-) Quote
offroadcreations Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 This is a great review, and that truck is pretty cool, too. Quote
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