I just saw EpIII SPOILERS may be present

[Mister Phes]

As forcasted, ROTS made history in term of box office!!!!

"Revenge of the Sith" sold an estimated $108.5 million worth of tickets for the Friday-to-Sunday period, taking its total to $158.5 million since it opened after midnight on Thursday"

G that is REALLY impressive

as always check it here: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies...reut/index.html

Master Yoda, our ever reliable CNN reporter! Well done! Due to your efforts I don't need to read the news anymore. Its great!

But these figures are just for Northern America... What about the rest of the world?

[snefroe]

for a detailed stat. you need to check movieweb.com, mr. Phes, click on "box office"

[Mister Phes]

World Wide: $303,013,859 - its kicking butt on everything else.

Thank you snefroe1

[Khorne]

Then when he frees himself from the shackles and the big "NOOOOOOOOOOO" what's with that stance? That's as bad as a Imhotep at as the end of The Mummy Returns after Rick catches the Staff of Osisoris and uses it to kill the Scorpion King...

He walks that weird because he isn't used to his robotic legs yet. It just like walking on...er...I can't come up with the English word so I'll just say the Dutch one, SNefroe could help me out, here it is: stelten. That's always weird in the beginning, too. But you're right about the "NOOOOOOOOO", that's stupid.

[Mister Phes]

By stance I'm also referring to the way he was holding his arms. It looked rather corny I thought... That might have been dramatic up until the 1950's, but now its old and overused.

[Vader]

Well i finally saw ep3, i have to say that i liked it. But like so many others i do feel it could of been better.

*Wookees, why were they given so little time on screen?

*GG looked superb, but just like darth maul i felt he was just in the movie to add a few action scenes and so that lucas could flex his CG power

*The deaths of the jedis could of been better

*Anakins turning to the dark side, it was just so quick, one min hes this great jedi the next hes killing younglings!

*Mace and the emperors duel, first we see palpatine off 3 senior jedi in no time which to me was again way to quick surely they would of put up a better fight than that? Then theres maces death, heres one of the most powerful jedi and how does he die?? in a spectacular lightsaber battle? no he gets thrown out of the window!!! we dont even see him land. It would of had more of an impact if we saw him being cut down by either vader or the emperors lightsabre.

*And finally was i the only one who found the obi wan v anakin/yoda v emperors battles lacked any emotion?

When i first saw ep1 i was blown away by the final duel, it was so intense and looked so good, i was hoping for the same feelings here but it just seemed to lack any IMO.

Overall i thought it was better than ep1 and 2, which is good but with alittle more thought it could of been better.

[Mister Phes]

Well i finally saw ep3, i have to say that i liked it. But like so many others i do feel it could of been better.

Overall i thought it was better than ep1 and 2, which is good but with alittle more thought it could of been better.

What did you like about the movie specifically?

*Wookees, why were they given so little time on screen?

Why did they require more screen time? They got more than any of the other races. The whole Wookee thing seemed like a ploy just to get Chewbacca into the story...

*GG looked superb, but just like darth maul i felt he was just in the movie to add a few action scenes and so that lucas could flex his  CG power

Yes... I agree with this. Mr Grievous seemed to be a bit under used. Even with the Clone Wars Episodes it doesn't really expand his charcter enough. Apart from giving Obi Wan some additional fighting experience, Mr Grievous was a bit pointless and ironically Obi Wan uses a blaster to take him out anyway...

*The deaths of the jedis could of been better

Definitely... Darth Vader hunted down and killed all the Jedi Knights my bum. They were more or less shot in the back by Clone Troopers.

*Anakins turning to the dark side, it was just so quick, one min hes this great jedi the next hes killing younglings!

I don't think it was quick. His fear of losing Padme was so strong he'd do anything to prevent it. He was madly in love and that blinded him. He cared about nothing else so he'd do whatever was required to save Padme.

*Mace and the emperors duel, first we see palpatine off 3 senior jedi in no time which to me was again way to quick surely they would of put up a better fight than that? Then theres maces death, heres one of the most powerful jedi and how does he die?? in a spectacular lightsaber battle? no he gets thrown out of the window!!! we dont even see him land. It would of had more of an impact if we saw him being cut down by either vader or the emperors lightsabre.

The 3 senior Jedi did fall rather faster which would have been better justified if Palpatine gave Mace a more challenging duel. But throwing him out the window... I hear this spoiler months ago. Hoped it wasn't true... But sadly it was. Thankfully for spoilers I wasn't disappointed by this scene.

*And finally was i the only one who found the obi wan v anakin/yoda v emperors battles lacked any emotion?

I thought this could have been a lot better to too, especially Yoda vs Emperor. For half of it the Emperor is cackling meniacally and throwing sentate pods at Yoda... The light sabre work isn't anything special.

Ah well... That's just some of my thoughts in comparisson.

[snefroe]

Then when he frees himself from the shackles and the big "NOOOOOOOOOOO" what's with that stance? That's as bad as a Imhotep at as the end of The Mummy Returns after Rick catches the Staff of Osisoris and uses it to kill the Scorpion King...

He walks that weird because he isn't used to his robotic legs yet. It just like walking on...er...I can't come up with the English word so I'll just say the Dutch one, SNefroe could help me out, here it is: stelten. That's always weird in the beginning, too. But you're right about the "NOOOOOOOOO", that's stupid.

you're right KhoRne, it looks as if he's walking on stilts... :P

i'm not sure if it's going to beat Titanic's record, tho...

[Vader]

I liked alot of the film, as usual the special effects were superb and i found it to be visually stunning.

Hayden was very good as a twisted anakin, something that i thought he wouldnt be able to pull off, i found him to be very child like in ep 2 and was worried that he would come accross the same here but thankfully he didnt.

I liked what we did see of the wookees, but would of liked to of seen more. I do agree though that it felt like the wookees were only used so that chewie could be in it.

GG was really cool, i loved the way he used the 4 sabres even though he seemed to lose two hands to obi wan way to easly. It would of been nice to see him off some jedi at the start though.

Anakins turning to the dark side just seemed to lack something, one min hes moaning about not being given the rank of master and the next hes chopping maces arm off. It would of been better to show him trying to stop mace from killing palpatine which could of led to them both duelling and anakin killing mace by accident. This would of showed him more confused and emotional, which in turn would of made us understand more his turning.

[Mister Phes]

His turning made complete sense to me.

As Mace was about to strike Palpatine down Anakin had the choice whether to assist Mace or save Palpatine.

If he helped Mace he faced losing Padme which he was intent of doing anything to stop. So, he assisted Palpatine, because Palpatine promised him powers to save Padme from dying. If Mace was accidentially killed this would have undermined Anakin's choice. The point was to show a crucial decision point for Anakin to turn to the Dark Side, and he chose to do so. If he didn't then he had no hope of learning the power to save Padme as Palpatine was the only one who could teach him. On top of that he already was brain washed the Jedi were corrupt and didn't think favourably of him, hence his whining about not being promoted to Master.

[snefroe]

His turning made complete sense to me.

As Mace was about to strike Palpatine down Anakin had the choice whether to assist Mace or save Palpatine.

If he helped Mace he faced losing Padme which he was intent of doing anything to stop. So, he assisted Palpatine, because Palpatine promised him powers to save Padme from dying. If Mace was accidentially killed this would have undermined Anakin's choice. The point was to show a crucial decision point for Anakin to turn to the Dark Side, and he chose to do so. If he didn't then he had no hope of learning the power to save Padme as Palpatine was the only one who could teach him. On top of that he already was brain washed the Jedi were corrupt and didn't think favourably of him, hence his whining about not being promoted to Master.

hm... i think anikin's original intention on telling Windu Palpy is the sith, was so palpy could be captured and interrogated. that would've ended the war. i think that was the good side in him... palpy needed to stay alive in any case... through ani's eyes there must have been two options: stay on the good side and capture Palpy or turn to the dark side to Palpy.

Eventually, it's Windu who's making ani's choice by saying he's going to kill palpy. at that point ani knows two things: he won't be able to save padm

[Mister Phes]

hm... i think anikin's original intention on telling Windu Palpy is the sith, was so palpy could be captured and interrogated. that would've ended the war. i think that was the good side in him...

Yes... I agree with this however I didn't go back far enough to cover it.

Lucas' story, as V316 said, is a bit "forced" here... i mean, a real good director knows he has to spend a lot more time on this individual tragedy, Lucas, with all due respect, doesn't have the talent for that kind of directing. sure, he tells a good story, but you can clearly see his limited abilities here...

what i also find very weird in this film is the change of the relationship of Ani and Obi. they're together for 15-20 years or so. obi sees ani as his son... ani must at least be an extremely good and loyal friend and 20 minutes later, that has all changed into hate and disgust... sure, you might hate the jedi, as if obi wasn't more than that, just another jedi...

Yes, these are valid points. But obviously these had to be crammed into 2 hours and 20 minutes of movie. If the movie had went longer then maybe this could have been explained a bit better. But for some reason George Lucas doesn't like his movies to be 3 hours long. Lord of the Rings triology proved that movie over 3 hours isn't going to hurt it, besides most of the movies that win best picture are over 3 hours anyway. So what's that telling us?

However, having chosen to go for a shorter movie, old George could have started explaining these things in the latter half of Episode II instead of playing so much with his visual effects. Lets face, from Smhi's death onwards the movie is just and fighting which doesn't really further the story a great deal. About the only signifigant things that happens in between that time is Obi Wan gets rescued and the Clone Wars start.

Its not until Count Dooku is faced by Anakin and Obi Wan then escaping that story continues.

Well that's my interpretation of the events.

[snefroe]

there is indeed a problem in the ep2-ep3 storytelling...

[Wolf04]

I would like to express my views on the movie since I've just seen it and it's fresh in my mind.

BEWARE: MAJOR SPOILERS!

This movie is easily the best of the prequels and it is a movie worthy of its Star Wars name. If you haven't seen it yet, go watch it because for me, it's the best 10 bux I've spent.

I'll talk about the flaws first.

One of the biggest flaws is progression. I agree, everything happened so quickly and Lucas could have easily made this a 3-hour movie. I didn't like how Anakin was lured to the dark side, how he was burned and Grievous' death.

At the beginnign of the movie, Anakin seems to be one of the best Jedis but soon after, just with a snap of a finger, he turns evil and against Obi-Wan. There's no connection and growth of character. Also, the way Anakin was burned seemed kind of stupid. I was thinking he would get burned because he made a mistake fighting but just because he was slipping...c'mon. And how was the fire on him estinguished. I mean by the time the fire would be out, his whole body would have been ashes but he wasn't.

And why did Obi-Wan suddenly turn against Anakin. I mean, he was like a father and suddenly, I hate you? That made no sense and could someone please tell me why Grievous was coughing??? I've watched Clone Wars and there is no indication of something happening to him. Talking about Grievous, I think he should have had a larger role. The way he fought with 4 lightsabers was amazing and there should have been more of that.

Lucas tries at the end to tell the viewers (and it's so obvious because of the robot) that Padme didn't die because she was sick. He didn't have to put the robot to actually say it, which seemed kind of stupid. One of the biggest mistakes is telling that Luke and Leia are Anakin's kids. That just ruins the fun of the older movies if you plan on watching Star Wars as a series from beginning to end.

Nonetheless, the movie had more action than the previous prequels and it didn't bore me at all. The special effects were realistic and the lightsaber duels were amazing...especially Grievous. It's ironic that no matter if you see the future, you can't change it. In this case, Anakin thought he could save Padme but it is in fact, him joining the dark side that killed her. The ending was kind of emotional seeing Anakin kill the kids and being ruthless. If only Anakin would have let Mace Windu kill the Sith Lord...I wonder.

[sam89]

That made no sense and could someone please tell me why Grievous was coughing??? I've watched Clone Wars and there is no indication of something happening to him.

In the last Episode Mace Windu force-crushes Grievous' chest and he starts coughing.

[Mister Phes]

Lucas tries at the end to tell the viewers (and it's so obvious because of the robot) that Padme didn't die because she was sick. He didn't have to put the robot to actually say it, which seemed kind of stupid. One of the biggest mistakes is telling that Luke and Leia are Anakin's kids. That just ruins the fun of the older movies if you plan on watching Star Wars as a series from beginning to end.

Why did Padme die? Medically she was fine she just lost the will to live?

WTF??? (I guess this accronym won't make the glossary) how can someone medically fine lose the will to live and just die? Ok, so she lost Anakin to the dark side fair enough. But she thought there was still some good in him. Wasn't that enough for her to keep going in hope that he could be turned back. Lame... Lame... Very lame death... Lamest death in the whole Star Wars saga.

Had Anakin accidentally caused her death that would have been more justified. But her just dying because she felt like it is ridiculous.

[Wolf04]

Yeah, that's what the robot says, she lost the will to live but I still think she died because Anakin strangled her. Well the thing is, after Anakin did strangle her, she probably gave up and decided life is meaningless. The end was really sad and even though I know what eventually happens in the next movies, it was still sad to see the universe become corrupt and everything just falling apart. That had the biggest impact on me.

[Mister Phes]

I was more annoyed at the obtuse design of the cinema and the fact that being in the first few rows the screen was so close I had to look from left to right to fit it all in.

[Wolf04]

I was more annoyed at the obtuse design of the cinema and the fact that being in the first few rows the screen was so close I had to look from left to right to fit it all in.

That's why you always sit at the back. Whenever I go see a movie, I sit as far from the screen as possible. It's more enjoyable.

[Mister Phes]

Yes I agree. I always sit as far at the back as possible. But in this case the only seats available were at the front. My friend who got the ticket for me chose should have been terminated for this outrage.

[snefroe]

Lucas tries at the end to tell the viewers (and it's so obvious because of the robot) that Padme didn't die because she was sick. He didn't have to put the robot to actually say it, which seemed kind of stupid. One of the biggest mistakes is telling that Luke and Leia are Anakin's kids. That just ruins the fun of the older movies if you plan on watching Star Wars as a series from beginning to end.

Why did Padme die? Medically she was fine she just lost the will to live?

WTF??? (I guess this accronym won't make the glossary) how can someone medically fine lose the will to live and just die? Ok, so she lost Anakin to the dark side fair enough. But she thought there was still some good in him. Wasn't that enough for her to keep going in hope that he could be turned back. Lame... Lame... Very lame death... Lamest death in the whole Star Wars saga.

Had Anakin accidentally caused her death that would have been more justified. But her just dying because she felt like it is ridiculous.

i've talked about this with master Yoda in the chat room.

personnaly, i think the notion of Padm

[Mister Phes]

Quick snefroe1, send this to Lucas before his next release of Episode III! He loves making edits so this should be no problem for him.

That ending was a lot better. However, at the very least Mr Lucas could have changed the medical droid's line saying she had medical complications arrisen due to being force choked. That would have at least justified her death - not that she's dying because she's had enough...

[Darth_Ewok]

Lucas tries at the end to tell the viewers (and it's so obvious because of the robot) that Padme didn't die because she was sick. He didn't have to put the robot to actually say it, which seemed kind of stupid. One of the biggest mistakes is telling that Luke and Leia are Anakin's kids. That just ruins the fun of the older movies if you plan on watching Star Wars as a series from beginning to end.

Why did Padme die? Medically she was fine she just lost the will to live?

WTF??? (I guess this accronym won't make the glossary) how can someone medically fine lose the will to live and just die? Ok, so she lost Anakin to the dark side fair enough. But she thought there was still some good in him. Wasn't that enough for her to keep going in hope that he could be turned back. Lame... Lame... Very lame death... Lamest death in the whole Star Wars saga.

Had Anakin accidentally caused her death that would have been more justified. But her just dying because she felt like it is ridiculous.

Yeah, I almost laughed. She died of a "Broken Heart" :'( ;)

(she actually says "Anakin, your breaking my heart!")

[Wolf04]

Lucas tries at the end to tell the viewers (and it's so obvious because of the robot) that Padme didn't die because she was sick. He didn't have to put the robot to actually say it, which seemed kind of stupid. One of the biggest mistakes is telling that Luke and Leia are Anakin's kids. That just ruins the fun of the older movies if you plan on watching Star Wars as a series from beginning to end.

Why did Padme die? Medically she was fine she just lost the will to live?

WTF??? (I guess this accronym won't make the glossary) how can someone medically fine lose the will to live and just die? Ok, so she lost Anakin to the dark side fair enough. But she thought there was still some good in him. Wasn't that enough for her to keep going in hope that he could be turned back. Lame... Lame... Very lame death... Lamest death in the whole Star Wars saga.

Had Anakin accidentally caused her death that would have been more justified. But her just dying because she felt like it is ridiculous.

Yeah, I almost laughed. She died of a "Broken Heart" :'( ;)

(she actually says "Anakin, your breaking my heart!")

Quick English lesson

It's "you're breaking my heart" (you're from you are, your is used to imply that something is owned by someone, e.g. your car)

[Mister Phes]

Excellent Wolf! I should get you to proof read all my university essays before I submit them.