Petition: War Theme

[Joey Lock]

Over time ive heard talk about people wanting war themes.

I would love to have a war theme but not a Liscene a Lego made one. It would be good to have a Bomber (Republic Gunship size) and a Tank (Bat tank size) and troops and more. Not Sci-Fi but like WW2 or nowhere days army. I have just finished a Bomber plane but its not very good and I finished a Black Tank which I call the XF-1R Tank, I like this one, a good creation but my camera is always dark.

Anywho back to the Petition, I really want this theme and we seem to be getting closer and closer with the Agents theme (the Gold hunt, Plane and Car) and the Indiana Jones Truck and Armoured car. If lego made this theme think how detailed the Vehicles would be!! *wub*

For some examples of the sets could be see Tiger0207's Gallery! He has some Enlighten brick sets.

Lego should show enlighten whos boss of the Bricks!

Anywho sign up here if you agree!

(Just quote my post and add your name!)

Whats your Opinion? :-)

Sign:

Tanotrooper

Bad List:

Mr Tiber

Hinckley

:)

Edited January 19, 2008 by Joey Lock

[El Bucanero]

Hmmm, well you do have a point about Indiana Jones and the Agents line, but I just don't see this happening. This is just a few steps too much over TLC policy. I mean, Indiana Jones is having all sorts of adventures, and so do the agents. But what's so romantic about world war II?? It's about killing the enemy. I really don't see TLC to romaticize WW2...

A bomber i.e. is to kill as many enemies as possible, right? While Indy's plane, wich probably would also be armed, is to bring him from the one place to another, etc etc.

I just don't see it happening, and would think it's sad if it would..

Just my 2 cents. :-)

[Joey Lock]

And so do the agents. But what's so romantic about world war II?? It's about killing the enemy. I really don't see TLC to romaticize WW2...

Im sorry but...In Indiana Jones and Agents they dont shoot hugs with there Care Bear guns! :-D

In agents they Have guns...To shoot the plane down and kill the pilot..The Armoured car has a gun to shoot Indy...

Think before you Blink I say! :-)

[Tanotrooper]

lego war on!

it would be interesting to see lego go military *sweet*

TT

[Hinckley]

...In Indiana Jones and Agents they dont shoot hugs with there Care Bear guns! :-D ...

Do you mean there as in "shoot hugs with ... there! (points) Care Bear guns!" because you have some in close proximity? Or did you just misspell the word their which is the correct possessive form of the word?

In other news, I doubt a petition will sway the marketing and development efforts of TLC. "Hold off on that Star Wars Clone Wars production, we just got an e-mail from Joey Lock with 12 names on it petitioning us to start a WWII theme. Looks like we're foiled again. Better get out our pencils and start sketching some tanks and trenches..."

Why am I giving Joey such a hard time? I don't know, but I'll make sure to bring it up with my therapist this week.

Truthfully, I think it's good to talk about themes we'd like to see because TLC has clearly listened in the past. They're pretty good at researching their fan base, it seems to me. I guess petitioning them is one way, although-as I illustrated with my sarcasm-I'm not sure it will really get you anywhere. I think the best way to put your energy towards it is to build some military MOCs and build interest in a them that way.

I would like to see a military theme too, although I'm not adding my name to the petition. It seems all of the clone brands have made military themes, perhaps LEGO should edge in on that market. Military-based toys seem to sell...

Either way, best of luck with the petition. I don't mean to discourage anyone from signing it, so if you feel like it please ignore me and have fun. X-D

[General Zen]

Perhaps lego has looked into it on some occasions, but as someone said before, lego cannot really romanticize military stuff. I mean war is...bleah. Indiana Jones truck chase...yeah! Lego will only take that step when they have a story or plot to appeal to children. I do not think lego will make a theme that promotes mindless killing.

[Joey Lock]

Everyone saying about war and mindless killing...

You dont have to make it WW2 I was making a suggestion! >:-(

Think about Kid shows today? Like that show ATOM its got weapons and bombs but it doesnt meen you have to start a bloody Nuclear war! Kids arent gonna play with the lego war stuff and then think "Hmmm im gonna go get a gun and join the army when im older!" *sad* Kids wacth Dr Who and that has people being vaporised and killed...

I dont meen like Bombers as in the bloody Blitz XD

:-D

Sorry to double post but once we have more replies, mabye move this to the Embassy? See if the ambassador agrees? Sorry its 1 O'Clock and im Drowzy... *sing*

Edited January 19, 2008 by Joey Lock

[Hinckley]

mabye move this to the Embassy? See if the ambassador agrees? Sorry its 1 O'Clock and im Drowzy... *sing*

I think the embassy has enough, "Please LEGO make this" threads. That's not really what the ambassador program is for, so unless another staff member disagrees, I think this should stay here.

[blueandwhite]

I don't really want a military theme. This is one area which I feel is best left to MOCers. With so many other possibilites, I would rather see the return of an old theme like Pirates or any number of new themes before even considering a military theme.

I guess you can add me to the bad list too. Look at that; we're winning the war :-D .

[maiq the liar]

Well, what about those of us who want to build tanks and stuff but don't have the resources? (Namely, ME ) :-(

[Batbrick]

I don't want to see a battle or war or military based theme either. I would rather see the return of Western, Pirates, Rock raiders or Space. Or a new theme like Romans, Greeks or Post-Apocalypse.

The idea of a military theme seems beneath Lego, it would be like sinking to the depths of all the other clone brands trying to make a cheap buck off gun happy kids.

Batbrick Away! >:-)

[maiq the liar]

Of course, with the clone brand invasion, there are places where it's needed...Poor albrickuerque is pretty much defenseless! No army, No medics, no police, Few firemen...If anyone were to attack albrickuerque, there would be a roughly 16.6% chance the town wouldn't be utterly decimated!

Edited January 20, 2008 by maiq the liar

[Joey Lock]

I just wanted the theme like maig said "Don't have the reasources" I have so many ideas...but not enough bricks...

I guess im just a Ruthless Mercenery! >:-)

[5150 Lego]

Oh boy, here we go! X-D

I'm all about a military theme. Not because i'm all for killing people, but because i think it opens the doors for all sorts of cool vehicle and posibilites thatTLC has never done before. Although i don't know if a pition will work, you can put my name down for a yes. *y*

Hmmm, well you do have a point about Indiana Jones and the Agents line, but I just don't see this happening. This is just a few steps too much over TLC policy. I mean, Indiana Jones is having all sorts of adventures, and so do the agents. But what's so romantic about world war II?? It's about killing the enemy. I really don't see TLC to romaticize WW2...

Ok, every time a military or simular type theme is brought up, most peoples imeadiate response is "no way, its against TLC's "No violence policy". Well, can somone please show me this so called policy, cause more than half of Lego's current lines already reek of violence.

Batman, Indie, Star wars, Castle, Pirates, agents, exo force. All these themes are asosiated with violence, some more so than others, but all these current themes have weapons in them of some sort. So even if lego did have carry this so called "No violence policy",it was obviously dropped a long time ago.

A bomber i.e. is to kill as many enemies as possible, right? While Indy's plane, wich probably would also be armed, is to bring him from the one place to another, etc etc.

I just don't see it happening, and would think it's sad if it would..

Just my 2 cents. :-)

While i apreaciate your point, i don't think its a fair comparision. You can't really compare indie's bi-plane to a bomber plane. A more fair comparision would be the military style truck in the indie line. But lets use the indie line as an example.

Anyone who has watched the movies, knows that indie was always trying to keep the german army from capturing anciet (sorry misspelled i know 8-| ) artafacts. Now, Lego obvioulsy couldn't put german flags all of the vehicles for contiversial reasons, and i think that was a great move. Build the same (military)vehicles that were in the movie, just not with any idenifiable country flags. This seems to work quite well without getting anyone upset. One of the trucks even has a gun turent on it, with the troops armed with hand guns. This is basicly the same type of vehicle that you would see in a military line. So can someone please tell me whats the differnce? And please don't use the excuse

"Well its a licencsed theme, so they can't steer away from the story".

Nope, sorry. That excuse doesn't fly. Guns are guns people. Just cause its a licensed theme doesn't make it ok for lego to violate ist own so called policy.

Perhaps lego has looked into it on some occasions, but as someone said before, lego cannot really romanticize military stuff. I mean war is...bleah. Indiana Jones truck chase...yeah! Lego will only take that step when they have a story or plot to appeal to children. I do not think lego will make a theme that promotes mindless killing.

No one is talking about romantizing a military type line. I think what most really want are tanks, helocopters, jeeps/hummvee's, jets and such.

One thing that ive nocticed is that many people are against militry type themes, or sets that have violence in them EXCEPT when its in a theme they like. People will make any excuse in the book that there beloved theme isn't violating legos so called no violence policy when its in a theme they like. I've seen many people upset that the new agents theme have hand guns in them, but are all for star wars that have the exact same weapons because its a theme they like. Same with indie. Wether peoplw want to admit it or not, if lego would even introduce a militray type it would more than likey look very simular to the vehicles in the indie line right now. Also, remember the tank and wing plane in the Indie movies? I can almost garantee you they will make it into sets. And both have guns a blaring.

Bottome line is a military theme is very possible. If Lego did have a "No violence policy",it was dropped years ago. You can argue that ifyou want, but the evidiedence is all around us.

[Batbrick]

Bottome line is a military theme is very possible. If Lego did have a "No violence policy",it was dropped years ago. You can argue that ifyou want, but the evidiedence is all around us.

No, you think its possible, others think not, but until TLC releases a military line, I'd say they were against it. Why? Because kids love military things and war toys, and if Lego did drop the "No Violence" policy, then they would have made this theme eons ago. Thing is, they haven't, so I think the "No Violence" policy remains, just a lot looser than before.

You can argue about the "evidiedence" being all around us, but ultimately, if a military theme was "very possible", it wouldn't have taken this long.

I think we will never see a Military theme, because military = war, while Western, Batman, Pirates, Agents and others = Adventure.

Batbrick is Back! >:-)

[Hinckley]

so I think the "No Violence" policy remains, just a lot looser than before.

as evidenced by the machine guns and Arkham Asylum shock treatment room in your favorite theme...Perhaps the Vikings are just trying to catch the dragons as pets and the dragons don't want to eat the Vikings but teach them how to fly. And maybe all the exo-force weapons are peace shooting love-guns. :-| No violence means no violence and TLC's policy on this is clearly out the window and has been for some time...

[Batbrick]

as evidenced by the machine guns and Arkham Asylum shock treatment room in your favorite theme...Perhaps the Vikings are just trying to catch the dragons as pets and the dragons don't want to eat the Vikings but teach them how to fly. And maybe all the exo-force weapons are peace shooting love-guns. :-| No violence means no violence and TLC's policy on this is clearly out the window and has been for some time...

:-D , I understand what you mean. I guess I did word that awfully. I simply meant that there is a distinct difference between violence in an adventure based theme, than violence in a violence based theme. War is all about violence. Batman contains violence but is not about it.

Sorry, I'm awful at wording these things, but do you understand what I mean? :-$

Batbrick is Back! >:-)

[iamded]

I don't want to see a battle or war or military based theme either. I would rather see the return of Western, Pirates, Rock raiders or Space. Or a new theme like Romans, Greeks or Post-Apocalypse.

The idea of a military theme seems beneath Lego, it would be like sinking to the depths of all the other clone brands trying to make a cheap buck off gun happy kids.

Batbrick Away! >:-)

Hold on a sec! Look at that!

Or a new theme like Romans, Greeks or Post-Apocalypse.

That could be great! We could get all the tanks and armoured vehicles and weapons and helmets we want from a military theme, but with the people fighting weird mutant alien zombies! (Or just one of the formentioned. X-D) Great idea Batbrick! :-D

~Peace

[Batbrick]

Hold on a sec! Look at that!

That could be great! We could get all the tanks and armoured vehicles and weapons and helmets we want from a military theme, but with the people fighting weird mutant alien zombies! (Or just one of the formentioned. X-D) Great idea Batbrick! :-D

~Peace

Love you too iamded! *wub*

Yes, I also stated this in the "Your Ideas" thread. I think a post-apoc theme would be a great way around the "War" thing. That way, like you stated, you can get tanks, jeeps and bases, but with men fighting mutants and monsters.

Batbrick Away! >:-)

[Hinckley]

:-D , I understand what you mean. I guess I did word that awfully. I simply meant that there is a distinct difference between violence in an adventure based theme, than violence in a violence based theme. War is all about violence. Batman contains violence but is not about it.

Sorry, I'm awful at wording these things, but do you understand what I mean? :-$

Batbrick is Back! >:-)

And maybe the Joker just wants to give Batman helicopter flying lessons... :-|

:-P Yes, I get you. But I still think you are romanticizing their stance. They are no longer pacifists crusading to rid the world's children of a violent toy market.

[Batbrick]

And maybe the Joker just wants to give Batman helicopter flying lessons... :-|

I thought he was...... :-P

:-P Yes, I get you. But I still think you are romanticizing their stance. They are no longer pacifists crusading to rid the world's children of a violent toy market.

I get what you mean too, and I probably am romanticizing their stance as you say. However, I still that a military theme is beyond them........for now....

But you are right in saying they are no longer pacifists, I guess the only way to tell whether a military theme will happen is to simply wait. After all, as you say, those guns aren't exactly peace shooting love weapons :-D

Batbrick is Back! >:-)

[ScottManDeath]

I saw some Lego clone military sets, and I don't like them. It is too real, whereas the themes we have so far stylize or abstract violence.

[General Kannon]

Thing is, they haven't, so I think the "No Violence" policy remains, just a lot looser than before.

I honestly think they never had one. Think of classic space, pirates, cops, and even Batman all had guns or a form of them. They however do have a no killing policy which is why a military theme will never be produced. Think about it in all of those themes where the killing could have been romanticized into arresting or walking the plank, but in war the loser dies(or thrown into a POW camp[even worse, and an even worse toy]). Luckily Legos can be taken apart and it is quite easy to make your own military MOCs and places like bricklink and Brickarms make it all the easier.

[Hinckley]

I honestly think they never had one.

They actually did at one point. Maybe someone has a link to their prior official stance, but they didn't have actual weapons until the late 80's when the Pirates line was introduced. Classic Spacemen had loud hailers and metal detectors... :-/ That, of course, before the serious threat of jelly aliens.

[Batbrick]

They actually did at one point. Maybe someone has a link to their prior official stance, but they didn't have actual weapons until the late 80's when the Pirates line was introduced. Classic Spacemen had loud hailers and metal detectors... :-/ That, of course, before the serious threat of jelly aliens.

That would be very interesting to find out actually, to see exactly what their stance on weapons and such were and what limits were involved. I almost wish guns never entered the realm of space, I just loved the idea of exploring spacemen like in Classic Space :'-)

But who could argue against the supreme articulation that was the jellies?

Batbrick is Back! >:-)