[TC11] Technic Contest Battle Bots - Discussion Topic

[Jim]

Okay....mistakes have been made.

Now let's come together for a big group hug to end this debate 

Milan has posted the conclusion. Let's end this contest with our chins up and smiles on.

Next contest will be more clear....and will probably be called "Yes, you can!" 

[allanp]

Could we at least change the title of the contest to battle forum members! 

seriously though that's for clearing things up 

Edited April 12, 2017 by allanp

[agrof]

5 hours ago, allanp said:

Could we at least change the title of the contest to battle forum members! 

Just understood what is going on here... People, wake up! Our robots evolved way too far, THEY want to grow above 45 studs, THEY make us confront with each other, THEY want to rule us!

I blame sbrick for being too smart, Jim for extending the deadline thus give more place and time for them, and ourselves not to noticing that this IS REALLY happening!

[romashkaman]

It is necessary to clarify something: I know that it is not allowed to use the second robot in the video, but is it still possible to use minifigures to show the work of the bot? Or do I need to retake the video?)

Link to entry

[Jim]

While I don't really mind, I think it would be better if you edit the video. No need to retake, simply cut out the part with the Minifigs. 

Nice work on the presentation and the app. I like the fact that you have a theme for your bot.

[romashkaman]

Thanks! Other participants used boards or wheels to show the bot's work - maybe I just need to replace the minifigures with this? Just to show that a bot can break something)

[PKW]

@Milan i was forbiden to use modular weapon or so chainging pieces between battles on my robot (so actually no manual function but different powered fuctions between battles) but are minor manual changes allowed? like i can tell that my bot has an easy was to add/remover rubberbands on its weapon in order to adapt to the opponent weight?

also i can put a collage instead of 1 fo the three mandatory photos or it is like, "if i make a collage of 3 photos then they count as 3"?

Edited April 16, 2017 by PKW

[Milan]

7 hours ago, romashkaman said:

Just to show that a bot can break something)

We don't want to see a bot breaking something. Lego was not meant to do that, and we don't want participants to damage their bricks. We want to see smart solutions and inventive use of parts. And we want attention on the bot, not on minifigs, tires, blocks etc.

4 hours ago, PKW said:

@Milan i was forbiden to use modular weapon or so chainging pieces between battles on my robot (so actually no manual function but different powered fuctions between battles) maximum impact changes gearing in order to adapt to its opponent power, this means that minor manual changes are allowed? like i can tell that my bot has an easy was to add/remover rubberbands on its weapon in order to adapt to the opponent weight?

also i can put a collage instead of 1 fo the three mandatory photos or it is like, "if i make a collage of 3 photos then they count as 3"?

It the rules says so, there is no need to ask again. No manual changes/touching during fight. There is no "between battles". When your bot is in the Arena, you film it and that's it. Whatever you have prepared before that battle, show it without touching your bot.

You can make 3 photos whatever you like, including all collages.

[romashkaman]

Well, I'll redo the video, but it should be noted that this is a contest of battle bots)

[Aventador2004]

@Milan or @Jim , could I put batterys in a lego container instead of a battery box. I have only two and they are different kinds. This would help alot. Thanks in advance!

Aventador

[Jim]

1 hour ago, Aventador2004 said:

@Milan or @Jim , could I put batterys in a lego container instead of a battery box. I have only two and they are different kinds. This would help alot. Thanks in advance!

Aventador

Why are you asking this a day before the closing date? 

I am not really sure what you mean, but if you are talking about loose wires attached to batteries etc, than it's not allowed.

[aminnich]

I personally think that is you want to use batteries as weights, they need to be in a battery box where they belong.  

[PKW]

15 minutes ago, aminnich said:

I personally think that is you want to use batteries as weights, they need to be in a battery box where they belong.  

exactly this also because you are not actually using batteries as weight,but lego battery boxes, the fact that they are not empty doesn't mean that you are allowed to use 3rd party part (aka batteries) as a wight/power sources

[Aventador2004]

Ok, was thinking of an idea but it didn't work. I meant to put the batteries as weights. Pkw now that you point that out I realized that would be cheating.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Aventador2004

[shadow_elenter]

3 hours ago, aminnich said:

I personally think that is you want to use batteries as weights, they need to be in a battery box where they belong.  

The rules say no 3e party part except rubber bands strings and hoses. AA battery's would technically not be allowed then, but because LEGO does not make battery's  and bots can not go without them (exept for those expensive rechargable boxes)an unspoken exception is in effect.
When one uses battery's for weight purposes only and not for powering the bot that is in my opinion(and probably a lot of others) illegal use of 3e party parts, but no one is making problems about your entry (yet) so I think you don't have the luxury of criticizing someone els in this matter... maybe leave that to the admins?, they're quite wise!

Example : a wise admin once said: 

On 20-2-2017 at 6:18 PM, Jim said:

please take notice of a simple motto regarding the Eurobricks Contests:

CONTESTS ARE FOR FUN!

 

 

[Aventador2004]

1 minute ago, shadow_elenter said:

The rules say no 3e party part except rubber bands strings and hoses. AA battery's would technically not be allowed then, but because LEGO does not make battery's  and bots can not go without them (exept for those expensive rechargable boxes)an unspoken exception is in effect.
When one uses battery's for weight purposes only and not for powering the bot that is in my opinion(and probably a lot of others) illegal use of 3e party parts, but no one is making problems about your entry (yet) so I think you don't have the luxury of criticizing someone els in this matter... maybe leave that to the admins?, they're quite wise!

Well spoken shadow elenter. I was only going to use them for a spinner weight but ran out of battery boxes.

 

[aminnich]

8 minutes ago, shadow_elenter said:

The rules say no 3e party part except rubber bands strings and hoses. AA battery's would technically not be allowed then, but because LEGO does not make battery's  and bots can not go without them (exept for those expensive rechargable boxes)an unspoken exception is in effect.
When one uses battery's for weight purposes only and not for powering the bot that is in my opinion(and probably a lot of others) illegal use of 3e party parts, but no one is making problems about your entry (yet) so I think you don't have the luxury of criticizing someone els in this matter... maybe leave that to the admins?, they're quite wise!

Example : a wise admin once said: 

 

 

I use battery boxes as weights with batteries inside them, that is totally different than have a Lego boxes with batteries inside. If you really want to make a big deal out of me using a battery boxes for purposes it really isn't meant for then so be it 

[shadow_elenter]

33 minutes ago, aminnich said:

I use battery boxes as weights with batteries inside them, that is totally different than have a Lego boxes with batteries inside. If you really want to make a big deal out of me using a battery boxes for purposes it really isn't meant for then so be it 

I don't want to make a big deal out of it, weather it's allowed or not is for the admins to decide. Don't get me wrong, you stated that you intended to use filled up battery boxes purely as weights on 29-03 in your topic (I noticed then, but I'm a live and let live kinda guy).

No one objected, and now so close to the end of the contest I think it would be unkind if you were force to take out the battery's and re-shoot your video because that would take all the fun out of this contest for you.

What I do think is weird is you using battery's for purposes they really aren't meant for(adding weight), and condemning a fellow builder for wanting to do the same.

Luckely aventador2004 stated he will not use battery's in that way, so I'd say the issue is resolved and everyone can go on and enjoy this awesome contest.

[Aventador2004]

All is well right? As I said i was only asking for a future idea. I wonder what the next contest will be......

[aminnich]

Just now, shadow_elenter said:

What I do think is weird is you using battery's for purposes they really aren't meant for(adding weight), and condemning a fellow builder for wanting to do the same.

Just now, Aventador2004 said:

could I put batterys in a lego container instead of a battery box.

 

He did not want to do the same, read the post closely.  I am not trying to bash anyone else's ideas, but I think having batteries in a LEGO battery box is different than having batteries in a LEGO built box.  Totally different.  The battery boxes are meant to hold batteries, thats why I do not see a problem with what I did.  

[shadow_elenter]

5 minutes ago, aminnich said:

He did not want to do the same, read the post closely.  I am not trying to bash anyone else's ideas, but I think having batteries in a LEGO battery box is different than having batteries in a LEGO built box.  Totally different.  The battery boxes are meant to hold batteries, thats why I do not see a problem with what I did.  

battery's are technically a 3e party item since they're not made by lego, made of string, rubber bands, or hoses.

The only reason battery's are allowed is because they have the vital function of powering everything.

If you take away the vital function of powering PF parts you also take away the only thing that gave it reason to be allowed, making it just a 3e party part regardless of the container you put them in.
But that's my opinion, so unless someone takes offence and you are approached by an admin teling you otherwise(I hope they will not do so) you did nothing wrong.  

So let's call it miscommunication, and a different opinion in weather or not the container is relevant and move on. 

[Aventador2004]

I was going to make a brick built container the exact size of 4x8. The scale of a battery. I was not however, using them as weights all over.

Sorry for the trouble a simple question caused.

[Milan]

Glad that it is solved and we move on!

[Marxpek]

Hello all!

I'm new to the forum and just tried to read this entire thread, it was quite a read so forgive me if i missed something.

I must say i like what people are doing here!, as well as people's spirit to win!!

I found this event on a youtube movie and i got exited and finished my bot now.

In the meanwhile i already posted my entry, at the very end it smacks a few duplo bricks (3 second image maybe) but from this thread i saw this might be a problem? was just a funny shot to me, should i edit it out? i did see alot of movies with bricks, house and wheels for some demonstration so i figured it was ok.

Re-editing wouldn't be a problem, but its not like that duplo part is the most impressive part of the video i think, just a funny "outro"

Thanks for creating such a fun event! i'm sure to stay here on the forum!

[heyitsdisty]

What time on Monday do our entries need to be in by?

Edited April 16, 2017 by heyitsdisty