Cardinal Brick Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Thanks for that badger though that does just heighten anticipation even further
Fatespuppet Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Being a huge castle fan I have to say I'm looking forward to more sets. The castle lines for the last couple years have always had 2 factions. Humies vs Skellies, Dwarves vs Orcs, so I would expect that if elves are the next 'good' faction that we'll need something to oppose them. Dark elves seems to simple, but I liked the barbarians idea. I'm not sure it would work, but how about a lizard men race? What really peaks my interest is the idea of a 'special' set. I hope it's not another giant chess set(although that will look neat next to the other 3 I have ). I would personally love to see a giant tree fort/base for the elves. Have it open up on hinges to reveal interior sections. :)
Sandy Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Being a huge castle fan I have to say I'm looking forward to more sets. The castle lines for the last couple years have always had 2 factions. Humies vs Skellies, Dwarves vs Orcs, so I would expect that if elves are the next 'good' faction that we'll need something to oppose them. Dark elves seems to simple, but I liked the barbarians idea. I'm not sure it would work, but how about a lizard men race? Actually, I'd love the opposing faction for the elves to be the witch and her enchanted minions. She could have an army of evil scarecrows, giant frogs, harpies, minotaurs etc. It would be like a "Magic Forest" subtheme to Castle (I remember Playmobil having something like that years ago). I'd totally buy every single set!
Fatespuppet Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Actually, I'd love the opposing faction for the elves to be the witch and her enchanted minions. She could have an army of evil scarecrows, giant frogs, harpies, minotaurs etc. It would be like a "Magic Forest" subtheme to Castle (I remember Playmobil having something like that years ago). I'd totally buy every single set! Hmm, there isn't a witch in the current series so it could work. Scarecrows, harpies and a witch.....I'm sensing a theme here.
Shoc Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Hmm, there isn't a witch in the current series so it could work. Scarecrows, harpies and a witch.....I'm sensing a theme here. There is a witch in the Chess set and Advent Calendar, that would be what Sandy means. I think the witch and he fantastical creatures would be brilliant sets! :skull:
Nikola Bathory Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I wasn't here (on EB) for some time - I am happy to read that we WILL have elfs next year!
Wilhelm screamer Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I wasn't here (on EB) for some time - I am happy to read that we WILL have elfs next year! There really is no firm and solid proof yet. But it is fun to dream.
CloneMe Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Id like to see at least one set that has a mix of elves men and dwarves fighting some bad guys. Cant wait for 2009 gonna be a great year.
Lord Admiral Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 There are two things that absolutely made the 2007/2008 castle sets for me: Merticulous attention to detail. No decals. I just hope they stick to this trend for the '09 sets. Most of the fun of Lego is in the building. That really is what differenciated it from the toy lines in the 80's and 90's (GI Joe, Transformers, Micro Machines, Hot Wheels, etc.), and it is what differenciates it from the toy lines now. A lesser amount of the fun is in the actual "playing" (and that usually involves some degree of taking apart and rebuilding). The '07 and '08 castle sets have balanced this well, with fun to build, and fun to play sets, whereas KK might've been marginally fun to play with, but they were ridiculously terrible to build. *As a disclaimer, I do have an intense hatred for decals (I refuse to knowingly buy sets that have decals, no matter how much I might like the set otherwise), but it is by no means an irrational hatred.
commanderbly42 Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 There really is no firm and solid proof yet. But it is fun to dream. But let's be optimistic and hope that the elves do come next year.
iamded Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 But let's be optimistic and hope that the elves do come next year. That's what we've been doing all this time. He was just pointing out there's no actual proof yet, which is good, as people should know that. There is however, good evidence that we will be getting Elves, it continues the fantasy theme, it would fit in well, and there was that picture of an elf and an area called Elflands in the map of the castle world. ~Peace
MoonCheese Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 *As a disclaimer, I do have an intense hatred for decals (I refuse to knowingly buy sets that have decals, no matter how much I might like the set otherwise), but it is by no means an irrational hatred. What's wrong with buying the set but not using the decals?
Pencoin Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 yeah but what would you rather have fiddily decals pre-printed goodness? and i'd say Elves were pretty much confirmed. Heres hoping one of the two bigs sets is some sort of big tree-fort
MoonCheese Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Yeah, I'd rather have preprinted parts, but if I hated stickers I'd just not use them and still buy the set (if it was a set that I wanted)... Having an elf-themed big set would be cool too. In 2007, the big set was the King's Castle Siege, and this year it's a chess set? It seems odd to me that a chess set would replace a huge building set, although I still want it for the figs and accessories.
Sandy Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Heres hoping one of the two bigs sets is some sort of big tree-fort I'd love it if the leader of the elves was actually a queen instead of a king, something akin to Galadriel from LotR. I remember that one Elfland-contest entry that had the perfect minifig for the part... And as for the possible "big set", I'd like it to be a huge treetown, not just a castle. Several small houses on a large tree trunk or something like, with a throneroom on top of the tree. But I guess that would be just too enormous to happen. :/ Gah, how bummed I will be if the elves won't be happening after all! X( Well, perhaps I could just build a treetop town myself...
Lord Admiral Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Actually, I'm so against decals that I wouldn't buy a set that has decals even if it's a set I really want. There are a few current sets that come to mind that I've passed on: town plan, service stations, etc. In the past, I didn't bother checking what sets had decals and what didn't (they're usually visible from the box art), and just bought whatever looked cool. Every time a decal sheet fell out of the box though a small part of me died inside. To make matters worse, the sets with decals were usually sets of mediocre or poor design (KK, Alpha Team, Dino Attack, Exo Force) with lots of large custom parts and no real substance. Actually, I kind of like a few of the Exo Force sets, but the mecha designs, while had interesting use of the pieces, kinda were light-weight and clumsy, and I hated the hair. On the other hand, the sets without decals had excellent designs ('07/'08 Castle, Classic SW, Classic IJ, Modular Town) and were far more interesting to build. That, and I wasn't spending half of the time struggling to get the decals on correctly, and despite all my efforts, the decals still end up being slanted or off-center or otherwise unacceptable. One could almost say that the presence of decals implied a mass-market lowest-common-denominator set, while the lack of decals implied more refined, for-the-hardcore-fans set. Since I don't have too many '08 sets with decals (none, I think, but I haven't built all of the sets I've bought yet), there probably isn't such a relationship, but it certainly seems that way. Regardless, to say the least, my disenfranchisement with decals is utterly complete. I went to Toys R Us the other day looking to spend money on a medium-sized set, and couldn't find anything I wanted that had no decals. I have most of the small and medium Castle sets, I'm not interested in non-Classic SW sets, I have most of the Classic IJ sets, and practically every City set uses decals. I left with the Coast Guard Quad Bike. If TLC keeps releasing sets with decals, pretty soon, I won't have any sets left to buy. Oh, the only time I don't really mind a decal is the information sticker that's in the UCS SW sets. Those I just leave be. OK, that's two threads I've crapped on in 24 hours. To get back on topic, I'd love to see elves, but I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if they didn't have elves but had something else that was cool instead. I wouldn't even mind if there wasn't a big set for the elves, just a bunch of smaller sets. In fact, it'd be awesome if the elf sets were modular, and when combined, could form a tree city. I'd be really impressed if the sets could be mixed and matched in different ways to form different tree cities. Despite not having any such sets, I'm a huge fan of the old castle, with the forestmen and the black knights and wolf pack. That there were multiple warring factions instead of the typical good vs. evil put a whole new spin on things. Hopefully, the elves will be a third faction in the trolls/skeletons vs. dwarves/humans. But as I was saying, even if the elves turned out to be a false rumor, if they had troll vs. skeleton sets, I'd be just as excited.
Lockt Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 (edited) I can agree with Lord Admirals comments on the castle line (no not on the decals, although I can feel your point ;-) ) I would be excited to see new Castle-line sets coming up and with the history we have now from 2007 and 2008 I am confident they will be nice :) Elves would be cool, since they add another faction (surely, I will not put myself in the traditional human, dwarf, elves vs undead, trolls and orc setup, but just see them as 6 factions) which is cool for me. Although I would surely hope to see also a human "darker" faction. Both a plain evil or plain neutral (like forestmen) faction would be cool. That said, I surely would appreciate any set of the same quality as we have seen in 2007 and 2008 with no new faction. And it is my silent hope Lego will expand their "water-trip" with castle a bit ;-) Edited July 25, 2008 by Lockt
Sandy Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Elves would be cool, since they add another faction (surely, I will not put myself in the traditional human, dwarf, elves vs undead, trolls and orc setup, but just see them as 6 factions) which is cool for me. Although I would surely hope to see also a human "darker" faction. Both a plain evil or plain neutral (like forestmen) faction would be cool. That said, I surely would appreciate any set of the same quality as we have seen in 2007 and 2008 with no new faction. And it is my silent hope Lego will expand their "water-trip" with castle a bit ;-) I have never considered the trolls and the undead being allied together, either. To me, they're just two different invaders to the human kingdom. And with the witch coming up, it's not exactly farfetched to expect to see a human faction similar to the Fright Knights in the future (maybe not next year, though). I too agree that the Castle-line could very well do with a ship for the "good factions", since there already is one for both the trolls and the undead. Maybe even a *gasp* airship, although that might be a bit too Final Fantasy for TLG. I'd buy it in an instant, being a "Final Fanatic" myself.
Inertia Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I'd love it if the leader of the elves was actually a queen instead of a king, something akin to Galadriel from LotR. I remember that one Elfland-contest entry that had the perfect minifig for the part...And as for the possible "big set", I'd like it to be a huge treetown, not just a castle. Several small houses on a large tree trunk or something like, with a throneroom on top of the tree. But I guess that would be just too enormous to happen. :/ Gah, how bummed I will be if the elves won't be happening after all! X( Well, perhaps I could just build a treetop town myself... Well, Galadriel wasn't the only ruler, as she co-ruled with Celeborn, to have two Elven Monarchs would be great, as the Crownies only have a King and a Princess. I think we can be assured TLC are making Elves for next year, as for a Treetown, that would be like a Castle Town Plan... I can agree with Lord Admirals comments on the castle line (no not on the decals, although I can feel your point ;-) ) I would be excited to see new Castle-line sets coming up and with the history we have now from 2007 and 2008 I am confident they will be nice :) Elves would be cool, since they add another faction (surely, I will not put myself in the traditional human, dwarf, elves vs undead, trolls and orc setup, but just see them as 6 factions) which is cool for me. Although I would surely hope to see also a human "darker" faction. Both a plain evil or plain neutral (like forestmen) faction would be cool. That said, I surely would appreciate any set of the same quality as we have seen in 2007 and 2008 with no new faction. And it is my silent hope Lego will expand their "water-trip" with castle a bit ;-) A Fright Knight Faction would be awesome, as well as a neutral faction, but having the Fright Knight like faction would be better and give us some really cool new parts hopefully.
Pencoin Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 i belive the orcs and the skeles are two seperate factions but allied together!
Sandy Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 i belive the orcs and the skeles are two seperate factions but allied together! How come? They don't show up in any of the sets together. They only have a common enemy, it doesn't necessarily make them friends. The old saying "An enemy of my enemy is my friend" isn't exactly true.
Wilhelm screamer Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 (edited) How come? They don't show up in any of the sets together. They only have a common enemy, it doesn't necessarily make them friends. The old saying "An enemy of my enemy is my friend" isn't exactly true. The LEGO Edited July 25, 2008 by Wilhelm screamer
Eldar Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 (edited) I think they should make a line of sets (corresponding with the future elves ) that feature many different fiefs. We could have 15$ sets featuring each fief possibly like this: ( Insert Fief Name ) Battle Pack 2 Feudal Knights featuring new surcoat armor piece. 2 Normal Footsoldiers 1 Archer Tiny siege engine or wall piece ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then we could have a large tournament or gathering of all the fiefs together. Possibly 60$ (Too much) The baron or lord of each fief would be in the set. ( Surcoats look like this: Surcoat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The knights could be what you like being Good, neutral, or evil. Ideas for fiefs would be: Stags ( Some forest like fief ) Wolves ( Wolfpack like knights ) Moon and Stars Mercenary More Crown Variety Lion Doesn't hurt to imagine !! Edited July 26, 2008 by Eldar
Fatespuppet Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 The more I've thought about the castle line the more I think it needs a nice injection of barbarians. Face painted and wearing furs or kilts along with wolf pets would be excellent. The sets could range from a barbarian horde assaulting an elven fort(similar to the 2008 siege tower but with a larger castle and more barbs instead of a siege tower) all the way up to an elven tree citadel with barbarian attackers. This would give two 'neutral' factions that could easily be pulled into the current castle world or left to their own devices.
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