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You've totally lost me, whats so "horrible" about these fantasy elements? I don't see any difference between this and any other fighting castle theme.

Batbrick Something! *wacko*

My main 'quibble' with the trolls is the swords. They seem large and tacky - not like something LEGO would do.

Otherwise I think the 2008 line up is alright, the best set being the Dwarves' Mine - the battle wagon, longboat, dwarves' catapult and seige tower all seem to be based on other designs from the Vikings/KK2 line - some are almost direct copies. *n*

TK

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Some great ideas *yoda* ! Loving your castle enthusiasm... ;-)

My thoughts exactly! Fantasy fiction is usually placed into a medieval like setting, so the crossover from pure Castle to Fantasy is easily made.

This is, to me, exactly the point. You are crossing over. While I may be living in the age of Lego past, I still like it. Once upon a time there were four themes based on four eras of history or plausible future. This allowed scope for any amount of imagination:

that's so true, lego always was all about imagination and i don't understand why everybody wants all things to be "as real as possible"

Imagination wasn't limited by set constructs. Factions could be whatever you wanted them to be, some read the pirates as good, some bad. Some created alien invasions of their town, some didn't. Some built dragons and un-dead hordes, most didn't ;-) , it's possible to make just about any of the pre-2000 castle factions into your faviourite/good faction. Imagination.

I look at a popular fantasy line and see two kids 'using their imagination': "You want to have the trolls attack again" "Sure"... It's a little more limited. Why not buy some of those figurines if you want to be stereotyped. Lego is suppose to be about imagination ;-)

Case in point is the last year's worth of MOCs on CC. Masses of skellies vs from the young builders.... not much else... hmm... I mean it's great that they've been 'inspired' but shouldn't inspiration lead to you creating something of your own? That's the form of imagination Lego used to encourage.

To be honest I think this is more a question of semantics than even the time warp that causes them. Blueandwhite, myself, and more than a few others, still understand 'imagination' to reside in the prerogative of the user. He or she designs/invents/creates. It would seem that a lot of slightly younger lego community members describe 'imagination' more in terms of stimulation. For children to reenact a scenario or story is a victory for Lego and 'imagination' (no offense intended at all, just a biased observation ;-) ). And compared to other modern pass times that may be true... I'm just asking for more.

Someone on Lugnet once asked why Lego conventions, although growing, had never reached the sized of comic book conventions. A brilliant reply stated that lego conventions should more readily be compared to comic book writers conventions. One is for the consumer-and is of course larger- one for the creator...

I still come to Lego to create.

A little fantasy won't ruin that. I just fear for further down the road. In the meantime I'll strip my skellies for robot parts and hope humans don't decrease yet further. Or I'll also be out.

God Bless,

Nathan

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Norro you raise a number of interesting point that have certainly set me thinking.

I look at a popular fantasy line and see two kids 'using their imagination': "You want to have the trolls attack again" "Sure"... It's a little more limited. Why not buy some of those figurines if you want to be stereotyped. Lego is suppose to be about imagination ;-)

But equally you could say that about the Pirate line,

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But let's now end the disputation about whether fantasy and not. It brings us away from the topic - and by the way: Lego does what it wants in any event.

Speculating again about which sets there might be in 2009 I came to following result:

I don't think that there will be a completely new "Castle" subtheme in 2009 - I firstly think that TLG will develop the dwarves' and orcs' line with some new sets.

Sets which might be possible but I would surely not like and buy:

-trolls' castle which is attacked by the king's soldiers (it's time that ill gets a big castle - and since the skelettons already have the skeletton tower it's the trolls' turn)

-king's big catapult

-more attack cars ...

-big troll Impulse set

Sets which might be possible and which I'd like to buy:

-civilian Impulse set *wub* (already mentioned above)

-dwarf Impulse set :-) (please read http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/eurofo...1entry253021)

-dwarves' hut *wub* (please read http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/eurofo...1entry253021)

-king's archer :-) (with bow and quiver) Impulse set

Of course these are only speculations and they even might be totally wrong - but what do you think?

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Didn't mean to drop this thread... I was just hoping a few others might weigh in before I do...again... ;-)

But equally you could say that about the Pirate line,
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But let's now end the disputation about whether fantasy and not. It brings us away from the topic - and by the way: Lego does what it wants in any event.

Speculating again about which sets there might be in 2009 I came to following result:

I don't think that there will be a completely new "Castle" subtheme in 2009 - I firstly think that TLG will develop the dwarves' and orcs' line with some new sets.

Sets which might be possible but I would surely not like and buy:

-trolls' castle which is attacked by the king's soldiers (it's time that ill gets a big castle - and since the skelettons already have the skeletton tower it's the trolls' turn)

-king's big catapult

-more attack cars ...

-big troll Impulse set

Sets which might be possible and which I'd like to buy:

-civilian Impulse set *wub* (already mentioned above)

-dwarf Impulse set :-) (please read http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/eurofo...1entry253021)

-dwarves' hut *wub* (please read http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/eurofo...1entry253021)

-king's archer :-) (with bow and quiver) Impulse set

Of course these are only speculations and they even might be totally wrong - but what do you think?

great idea!! *y* those sets would be very cool and i definate buy forme!

I reckon TLC should make a peasents farm

it would have a hut and some vegetables and brown lego (as dirt) and there ould be some baddy attacking it and the farmer would defend his farm with a pith fork :-P (yay) or something like that...

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I'm thinking the whole time about if the witch in this year's "Castle" advent calendar has a continuative significance and if so, which continuative significance for next year's Castle sets?

I mean: Does TLG ony include the witch into the advent calendar in order to give us AFOLs and the JFOLs some special minifigs? Or is there more behind it? The witch as leader of a new fraction? Or only one little set with her (e. g. her hut)? Or nothing?

It's nearly the same with the medieval woman and the jester: Will we get (more) sets which will include medieval citizens or not?

What do you think about it?

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In 2009 I hope they give us another human faction that can fight the badies because I'm getting sick of all this Blue and Gold! Don't get me wroung I love the Blue and Gold color scheme but after a while it just seems to get overdone. I mean I get that the Humans and Dwarves are Allies, but do they have to have the same color scheme for their heraldry and what not? :-/

General Tarful

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The Witch appears in the new Chess set as the queen to the Sorcerer, so I highly doubt she will introduce a new faction.

Batbrick Away! >:-)

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The Witch appears in the new Chess set as the queen to the Sorcerer, so I highly doubt she will introduce a new faction.

Yes.... It seems that this Wich used to be some fair Princess who was not saved by a knight.... ) >:-)

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I'm thinking the whole time about if the witch in this year's "Castle" advent calendar has a continuative significance and if so, which continuative significance for next year's Castle sets?

I mean: Does TLG ony include the witch into the advent calendar in order to give us AFOLs and the JFOLs some special minifigs? Or is there more behind it? The witch as leader of a new fraction? Or only one little set with her (e. g. her hut)? Or nothing?

It's nearly the same with the medieval woman and the jester: Will we get (more) sets which will include medieval citizens or not?

What do you think about it?

I'll tell you what I think. I've thought for a long time that the Advent Calendar would be a great preview of next year's sets to get excitement going. Not just for castle (which I'm hoping is the case and next year there will be sets with civillians) but for the new line up overall.

Think of how exciting last year would've been if the advent calendar contained an orc, Indiana Jones, exo-force jungle guy (or mini-robot), a clone trooper (in new cartoon look), an Alien Commander, and a delivery man (and maybe Santa).

Lego fans would be drooling every year to get this special preview of next year's sets.

-Tohst...nobody asks me

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I'm thinking the whole time about if the witch in this year's "Castle" advent calendar has a continuative significance and if so, which continuative significance for next year's Castle sets?

I mean: Does TLG ony include the witch into the advent calendar in order to give us AFOLs and the JFOLs some special minifigs? Or is there more behind it? The witch as leader of a new fraction? Or only one little set with her (e. g. her hut)? Or nothing?

It's nearly the same with the medieval woman and the jester: Will we get (more) sets which will include medieval citizens or not?

What do you think about it?

The witch is definitely in the Super Chess set, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she were to appear in other sets also (I kinda like your idea of a small hut for the witch). As for the wench and the jester, I don't dare speculate, but I'm really hoping for some more civilian oriented sets *sweet*

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In 2009 I hope they give us another human faction that can fight the badies because I'm getting sick of all this Blue and Gold! Don't get me wroung I love the Blue and Gold color scheme but after a while it just seems to get overdone. I mean I get that the Humans and Dwarves are Allies, but do they have to have the same color scheme for their heraldry and what not? :-/

General Tarful

I totally agree with you, GeneralTarful!

A new human faction - with nice minifigs and some civil stuff- would be very nice!

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I totally agree with you, GeneralTarful!

A new human faction - with nice minifigs and some civil stuff- would be very nice!

Hmm... Maybe we will get a barbarian faction, that would be cool because we could get some nice figs with new weapons and stuff... X-D

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Hmm... Maybe we will get a barbarian faction, that would be cool because we could get some nice figs with new weapons and stuff... X-D

Like... these? X-D

~Peace

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Like... these? X-D

~Peace

I love the Vikings, I have them all, I think another human faction would be great, but not barbarians. Maybe another knights faction with a red and black colour scheme?

Batbrick Away! >:-)

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I love the Vikings, I have them all, I think another human faction would be great, but not barbarians. Maybe another knights faction with a red and black colour scheme?

Batbrick Away! >:-)

The only problem I have with red and black is the continuation of Vladek's Scorpion Knights :-| , but maybe Barbarians wouldn't work... I mean we already have Trolls :-P .

Maybe a Forestmen faction? and we could have some smaller Goblins for the Orcs. I mean, that's sort of expanding on the factions already there. X-D

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I would like lego to make a gladiator line : ) that would be great!Oh and I would also like tlc to make a trolls castle.

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Like... these? X-D

~Peace

Maybe he meant a Celtic barbarian faction with 2 handed swords and kilts :-P , that would be awesome!

I think everybody knows about the experiment that was the Viking theme. I for one wouldn't mind a continuation with less Technic and Bionicle pieces.

General Tarful

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Good news Lego people in 2009 more new Lego castle sets.

*y*

No pics .....

Yay! More castle sets! I hope there are other sets with dragons in them, the dragons in the Castle line are a lot better than the ones in the vikings line.

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Actually, after playing copious amounts of the Warhammer: Dawn of War video game, the idea of a human faction is growing on me. Kind of like a Space Marine - Chaos Marine thing. X-D

~Peace

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