Robert8 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, VaderFan2187 said: @BrickHat this is all your fault! The mariachi and the gargoyle are tied! He is just too powerful Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 1 minute ago, BrickHat said: Some figures have had terrible luck. For instance, both the Hot Dog Guy and Banana man were placed in awful groups, and lost as a result. The randomizer is pretty cruel if you ask me. Well, if they couldn't win in the groups they were placed in, they would never win overall. I can't believe Hot Dog Suit guy didn't win. He's my favorite He looks awesome You can buy him alone and he looks cool You can army build him and get a Hot Dog army He's a guy in a Hot Dog Suit!! What's not to like?!? Just now, Robert8 said: He is just too powerful Let's ban him from the game (JKing of course) Quote
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, Robert8 said: He is just too powerful Indeed I am. Mwahahahaha. Just now, VaderFan2187 said: Well, if they couldn't win in the groups they were placed in, they would never win overall. That is not actually true. The way the system is set up, since we're making 6 figures go at it all at once and have people choose only their #1 pick, it can be the case that the winner of a group would have lost against the runner-up if the other 4 choices hadn't been there. So the group matters. For instance, there was a group with 2 space candidates: the galactic girl and retro spaceman. The latter lost by a razor-thin margin to the winner (which was neither of the space figs). It's not hard to imagine that if the galactic girl wasn't on that same group, the retro spaceman would have won. The presence of spoiler candidates can have a big effect on the winner of the group. In actuality, the winner of the game might not be the same as if every elimination was of one figure against another, which strictly speaking is the only true way to find the #1 fig, but isn't practical. Quote
SirBlake Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, Robert8 said: The King and Queen already won their round Oh, duh. That's what I get for not researching. So many minifigs! Lol. Quote
makoy Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, BrickHat said: That is not actually true. The way the system is set up, since we're making 6 figures go at it all at once and have people choose only their #1 pick, it can be the case that the winner of a group would have lost against the runner-up if the other 4 choices hadn't been there. So the group matters. For instance, there was a group with 2 space candidates: the galactic girl and retro spaceman. The latter lost by a razor-thin margin to the winner (which was neither of the space figs). It's not hard to imagine that if the galactic girl wasn't on that same group, the retro spaceman would have won. The presence of spoiler candidates can have a big effect on the winner of the group. In actuality, the winner of the game might not be the same as if every elimination was of one figure against another, which strictly speaking is the only true way to find the #1 fig, but isn't practical. You're kiss of death aside, you're doing a really good commentary of the game. To make your example even simpler -- say that 5 Simpsons or 5 DFB minifigures are in the same group of of any space minifigure. There is no way the space minifigure will lose that round. Therefore, the starting group matters. Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, BrickHat said: That is not actually true. The way the system is set up, since we're making 6 figures go at it all at once and have people choose only their #1 pick, it can be the case that the winner of a group would have lost against the runner-up if the other 4 choices hadn't been there. So the group matters. For instance, there was a group with 2 space candidates: the galactic girl and retro spaceman. The latter lost by a razor-thin margin to the winner (which was neither of the space figs). It's not hard to imagine that if the galactic girl wasn't on that same group, the retro spaceman would have won. The presence of spoiler candidates can have a big effect on the winner of the group. In actuality, the winner of the game might not be the same as if every elimination was of one figure against another, which strictly speaking is the only true way to find the #1 fig, but isn't practical. Ah true... but I have a simpler hypothesis. Didn't you vote for the Retro Spaceman? Quote
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, makoy said: You're kiss of death aside, you're doing a really good commentary of the game. To make your example even simpler -- say that 5 Simpsons or 5 DFB minifigures are in the same group of of any space minifigure. There is no way the space minifigure will lose that round. Therefore, the starting group matters. Yeah. An option would be something similar to what we did (still do?) here on EB with MOC contests, where people are given X amount of points to distribute among different candidates. But I think that is unnecessarily complicated in this case and I like the current system. It's a fun game, even if devastating at times. Edited May 13, 2017 by BrickHat Quote
BrickJagger Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 3 hours ago, BrickHat said: That is not actually true. The way the system is set up, since we're making 6 figures go at it all at once and have people choose only their #1 pick, it can be the case that the winner of a group would have lost against the runner-up if the other 4 choices hadn't been there. So the group matters. For instance, there was a group with 2 space candidates: the galactic girl and retro spaceman. The latter lost by a razor-thin margin to the winner (which was neither of the space figs). It's not hard to imagine that if the galactic girl wasn't on that same group, the retro spaceman would have won. The presence of spoiler candidates can have a big effect on the winner of the group. In actuality, the winner of the game might not be the same as if every elimination was of one figure against another, which strictly speaking is the only true way to find the #1 fig, but isn't practical. Completely agree, although I just see this as a fun (and ridiculously long) game we can play while we crack all sorts of bad jokes. Do you have any suggestions to improve the bracket formula? I'm interested. Quote
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BrickJagger said: Completely agree, although I just see this as a fun (and ridiculously long) game we can play while we crack all sorts of bad jokes. Do you have any suggestions to improve the bracket formula? I'm interested. Well, my only suggestion for @Itaria No Shintaku would be to make the next rounds one on one, or if not at leasty the last ones. I think the group approach is fine and fun for the first round of elimination since we're discarding five sixths of all the candidates, but one on ones would work better in the next rounds, in my opinion. So, 64 minifigs will go on to round 2, so that means we'd have 32 matches if we did one on ones. I'm almost certain that it's possible to ask more than one question in an EB poll, so we could do, say, 4 matches a day (each 1 vs 1), and people would give their 4 choices for the 4 matches of the day. In this way, round 2 would take 8 days (or 16 days with 2 per day, or 32 with one per day). Edit: and I totally agree about the jokes. Edited May 13, 2017 by BrickHat Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 5 hours ago, BrickHat said: Well, my only suggestion for @Itaria No Shintaku would be to make the next rounds one on one, or if not at leasty the last ones. I think the group approach is fine and fun for the first round of elimination since we're discarding five sixths of all the candidates, but one on ones would work better in the next rounds, in my opinion. So, 64 minifigs will go on to round 2, so that means we'd have 32 matches if we did one on ones. I'm almost certain that it's possible to ask more than one question in an EB poll, so we could do, say, 4 matches a day (each 1 vs 1), and people would give their 4 choices for the 4 matches of the day. In this way, round 2 would take 8 days (or 16 days with 2 per day, or 32 with one per day). Edit: and I totally agree about the jokes. Hi guys. Next round will be 4 each group instead of 6. When 16 minifigures will be remamining we will have 1 vs 1. Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 MARIACHI WINS Next round ready in 30 minutes. Quote
Robert8 Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 So the minifigure @BrickHat voted for actually won Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Just now, Robert8 said: So the minifigure @BrickHat voted for actually won @BrickHat still, don't vote for Corn Cob Guy. Quote
Trekkie99 Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Huh, all the previous rounds were pretty easy for me. But for this round I had to decide between the decorator, the square foot, or the mountain climber. In the end I had to go with the decorator. I like him the best but I'm not sure why. Edited May 13, 2017 by LegoMonorailFan Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 Please everybody look at this and caste your vote: Quote
DarrellBricker Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Square foot, for no other reason than the other minifigures didn't really interest me at all. Quote
koalayummies Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 This round was really tough, really like them all. Too bad all the soccer players are done as they helped make decisions easier by automatically eliminating a full choice, sorry soccer. Quote
Borex Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Corn cob guy, but i like square foot as well so much. I still can't get it that the gargoyle lost :-( Quote
BrickJagger Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, Borex said: Corn cob guy, but i like square foot as well so much. I still can't get it that the gargoyle lost :-( That massive rally was all for naught. Alas. Quote
Covi Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 7 hours ago, LegoMonorailFan said: Did anyone vote decorator? I did! Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted May 14, 2017 Author Posted May 14, 2017 SQUARE FOOT WINS Next round ready in 30 minutes. Quote
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Ice Fisherman! Although it looks like I cast my vote a little after Itaria took the screenshot. Oh well, this time it wasn't my fault! Quote
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