Kings Port Advertiser and Ship List (Vol 2, SPECIAL EDITION) MAY 617

[Legostone]

Just now, MKJoshA said:

Thanks, so the Mardier ships are not MOC'ed, right?

How would we have managed that in this time? :D

[SkaForHire]

On 4/18/2017 at 10:25 AM, Capt Wolf said:

Fantastic account of the battle! A thrilling read, even if Eslandola suffered so many losses to the Sea Rat privateers.

I was, however, under the impression that King's Port had thrown off the Mardierian yoke in the past month. I guess we now know what the sympathies of the KPA's editor and publisher are (as if we didn't before)!  Perhaps they have moved their offices without changing their masthead.

@SkaForHire, could you clarify whether the Logan's Nightmare captured by ESL is a 5LA or 5HA? Thanks.

 

Sorry,  I have been away from the game for the last week.... I know some questions have mounted up.

I was wrong, you are right, I didn't realize we had gone with the results of the first parts of the challenge already and that GARM had announced the outcome -- I thought in my head that after all the parts of the challenge were over then things switch hands!  Anyway, lets just say that this editor is Mardiran at heart and hoping for a reestablishment  of the King, while publishing very pro-MAR papers.... lol

It is a 5LA, I am sorry for any confusion.

On 4/20/2017 at 9:08 AM, MKJoshA said:

Blue Bonnet (5A) - ?

4A “Cadance” - ?

4A Capt’n Bones - ?

UnMOCed MAR vessels

[Maxim I]

On 20/4/2017 at 4:12 PM, MKJoshA said:

Thanks, so the Mardier ships are not MOC'ed, right?

Wait a minute, aren't you supposed to give back these vessels to Mardier? They were Mardier vessels after all

[Bregir]

31 minutes ago, Maxim I said:

Wait a minute, aren't you supposed to give back these vessels to Mardier? They were Mardier vessels after all

They were Eslandian when captured. If the Sea Rats wanted to gain some goodwill, they could concievably hand them back, but being sea rats... Well...

(During the Napoleonic Era, I believe the british rule was that if it was less then 24 hours since it was captured, it was salvage (to be handed back for a small bounty), but if it was more, it was a legal prize.)

[MKJoshA]

Any update on the rest of the MCRA results?

[Professor Thaum]

On 28/04/2017 at 11:30 PM, MKJoshA said:

Any update on the rest of the MCRA results?

up ?

[MKJoshA]

2 hours ago, Professor Thaum said:

up ?

If it's up, can you post a link? I'm looking for the results of the trade runs.

[Professor Thaum]

 

11 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

If it's up, can you post a link? I'm looking for the results of the trade runs.

me too.. the up was just to second your question about results

[Legostone]

On 4/18/2017 at 5:23 AM, SkaForHire said:

The privateer Cardinal was taken by the Blue Bonnet. However, the repaired privateer Peregrine was able to take the ESL vessel Blue Bonnet at the end of their battle line, while the Corporal Milton, back in the hands of the Sea Rats, was able to board and overtake the HMS Pendragon.  The Sea Sweeper  was taken by the Peregrine after minimal fighting, and the whole rear of the line was falling apart for the Eslandolans.

 

Wait, does this mean that, in the end, the Cardinal was still in the hands of Eslandola? Blue Bonnet was ESL at the time, and the Cardinal was not taken again.

[Capt Wolf]

5 hours ago, Legostone said:

Wait, does this mean that, in the end, the Cardinal was still in the hands of Eslandola? Blue Bonnet was ESL at the time, and the Cardinal was not taken again.

That's not how I read it. Once taken, the Cardinal needs to be retaken. Only it's captor (Blue Bonnet) was taken.

[Legostone]

Just now, Capt Wolf said:

That's not how I read it. Once taken, the Cardinal needs to be retaken. Only it's captor (Blue Bonnet) was taken.

The privateer Cardinal was taken by the Blue Bonnet. -> at this time, Cardinal had been captured by the SR and Blue Bonnet was a former Marderian vessel which was in ESL hands at the time and captured Cardinal again. 

However, the repaired privateer Peregrine was able to take the ESL vessel Blue Bonnet at the end of their battle line, -> Blue Bonnet was taken by the SR

while the Corporal Milton, back in the hands of the Sea Rats, was able to board and overtake the HMS Pendragon.  The Sea Sweeper  was taken by the Peregrine after minimal fighting, and the whole rear of the line was falling apart for the Eslandolans. -> no more mentions of the Cardinal

I suppose Ska missed it, it was just pointed out to me that the ships current situation might not be 100% clear from the battle description:P

[Capt Wolf]

Just now, Legostone said:

I suppose Ska missed it, it was just pointed out to me that the ships current situation might not be 100% clear from the battle description:P

I can see your point. Definitely get clarification from @SkaForHire. It's easy to miss something from that battle.

[Kwatchi]

8 hours ago, Capt Wolf said:

That's not how I read it. Once taken, the Cardinal needs to be retaken. Only it's captor (Blue Bonnet) was taken.

Look at the list of captured vessels.  That is the official result. The Cardinal is in there.

The story is just something additional to make it more entertaining for us all.  I realize Eslandolan players in general are a competitive lot, but please stop with the public fluff-lawyering whenever you don't like a result, as it is starting to wear thin.

[Capt Wolf]

14 minutes ago, Kwatchi said:

Look at the list of captured vessels.  That is the official result. The Cardinal is in there.

The story is just something additional to make it more entertaining for us all.  I realize Eslandolan players in general are a competitive lot, but please stop with the public fluff-lawyering whenever you don't like a result, as it is starting to wear thin.

Woah, nobody is fluff-lawyering here. LS had lost a ship, read the story and thought it might mean the list was in error (because that's never happened before, right?!) and asked a question, and I replied that I thought he was reading it with rose-colored glasses and supported you (or whatever Sea Rat captured the Cardinal). No need to jump on him for asking a question.

[Maxim I]

On 18/4/2017 at 1:43 PM, Jacob Nion said:

 

@SkaForHire 

4. The seventh paragraph states that the Sea Sweeper was also taken by the Peregrine, but it's missing in the list below. 

P.s.: @Legostone thanks for the information

 

8 hours ago, Kwatchi said:

Look at the list of captured vessels.  That is the official result. The Cardinal is in there.

The story is just something additional to make it more entertaining for us all.  I realize Eslandolan players in general are a competitive lot, but please stop with the public fluff-lawyering whenever you don't like a result, as it is starting to wear thin.

Dear Kwatchi,

As Capt Wolf pointed out, sometimes the story and the list don't add up. Your fellow Sea Rat Jacob Nion showed another missing link a while ago as well, so don't hit on us for asking how the Cardinal was recaptured and don't say the official result is holy as your own team mate pointed out a flaw in it...

The missing description popped up when I was writing a summary for the Letter of Marques and that's why I asked to Legostone if he knew more... I think it his fullest right to want to know how exactly the Cardinal went missing and who captured it...

It is true I asked a lot of questions after the first time I read the results, but once they were answered, I could live with it. And as you may have noticed, every Eslandolan player who was involved in this battle has already congratulated the Sea Rats for this tactical masterpiece they did...

So don't we like the result? Ofcourse not, our whole fleet has been decimated. But are we still whining about that? No... It was a fair game, we knew there was a risk and we got money enough to rebuild our fleet... And that's also what already happened as Legostone sisterlicenced the Cardinal when the results were published. All he wanted to know is who exactly captured the original vessel...

 

[Bregir]

Results and decisions have to be clear, or clarified, so we all understand what has happened. Once that is achieved, everyone should accept them, regardless of whether they like the outcome. No reason to get worked up. :)

Legostone asked a reasonable question, and should not have to explain himself. Kwatchi reacted, probably not because of the specific question, but because of the total picture, which could lead some to think that there are some who are not ready to accept the results if they go against them. The famous straw on the camel's back.

You, Maxim, must (well, have already :) ) admit that you reacted to the first results in a not so reasonable way, and we can all take our lessons from that.

For the future, let us all expect that everything is reasonable, and ask clarifying questions, rather than (which seems to be the case sometimes) initially expecting the world/the courts/Ska/Bregir/whoever to be trying to cheat us out of what is ours. The world might be unreasonable, but our objective is that BoBS shouldn't be. :)

I guess that is where Kwatchi is coming from, and I do somewhat follow him. Then again, I also think he overreacted a bit.

So, let's all get along, shall we? :)

[Maxim I]

@Bregir: I hope that is not the case for you!

[Bregir]

Captain Compromise-man strikes again! Daaa-DAAAH! :P

[Jacob Nion]

There's a far more important question. When do we get the bounty for all these Eslandiard ships from Mardier? Where is me gooold???