icm Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 I see no harm in allowing bootleggers to make similar themes, but any bootlegger who made and sold unlicensed copies of unreleased Lego sets would clearly be committing theft of intellectual property. If you reverse-engineer an unreleased set from publicly available photos and release free instructions for it, that's different. Quote
Falconfan1414 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, deneweth said: I was thinking about how sad it is that year 2 probably 'killed' it and most people are saying this small part of what would be year 3 was the best so far. Obviously they probably took the best sets/ideas for this partial wave, but it did just happen to give us all the knights. I would have loved to see what else was planned, but I've realized that even if they had the other sets ready to go they couldn't release any information without bootleggers making and selling the sets. Nothing else with planned. It was the same thing that happened with Chima, 5 waves in total. Bad sales didn’t cause nexo Knights to be canceled it just didn’t save nexo Knights from continuing after it’s originally planned run Quote
Nexogeek Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Maybe we will get more concept artwork and pictures of prototype designs now that the theme is over as far as we know Quote
Fenghuang0296 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, icm said: I see no harm in allowing bootleggers to make similar themes, but any bootlegger who made and sold unlicensed copies of unreleased Lego sets would clearly be committing theft of intellectual property. If you reverse-engineer an unreleased set from publicly available photos and release free instructions for it, that's different. Ah. I see. Well, that still shouldn't stop them from releasing pictures of unreleased sets. Or at least descriptions. 26 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said: Nothing else with planned. It was the same thing that happened with Chima, 5 waves in total. Bad sales didn’t cause nexo Knights to be canceled it just didn’t save nexo Knights from continuing after it’s originally planned run . . . But Chima had six waves? Quote
Falctron Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, deneweth said: I was thinking about how sad it is that year 2 probably 'killed' it and most people are saying this small part of what would be year 3 was the best so far. Obviously they probably took the best sets/ideas for this partial wave, but it did just happen to give us all the knights. I would have loved to see what else was planned, but I've realized that even if they had the other sets ready to go they couldn't release any information without bootleggers making and selling the sets. I think we are probably putting too much stock in the "Year 2 killed it" theory, honestly. Year 2 was competing with LEGO Batman movie and LEGO Ninjago movie in addition to it's normal competition with Ninjago for the hearts and attention of kids, as well as their parents' wallets. I think to a lot of parents walking down the LEGO isle at Target, buying the set with Batman or baby Groot in it over the one with the crazy electric Jester in it is a no-brainer. The only thing that could possibly cross that divide is a big marketing push like the first year had, or a popular tie-in show, like Ninjago had. One of the many sad facts of Nexo Knights demise is that the show got infinetly better in its third and fourth season. It just seems like the network had given up on the show in favor of showing Teen Titans Go nonstop. Hopefully it's not too late to see some more of what was planned. The Character Encyclopedia had some great Behind the Scenes stuff (like they knew this was their last chance to publish it). Hopefully we can see a digital version of this stuff on the official site as a sort of farewell retrospective. I for one, will forever be salty that CybOrcs was shot down in favor of stone and lava monsters. Quote
PenPlays Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Feng-huang0296 said: Ah. I see. Well, that still shouldn't stop them from releasing pictures of unreleased sets. Or at least descriptions. . . . But Chima had six waves? No one remembers the sixth wave that launched in the late spring/early Summer. I certainly won't. It's when we got the worst set in the entire theme, Mammoth's Frozen Stronghold. I agree that saying NEXO Knights (or CHIMA for that matter) "failed" is completely in the wrong. The fact they lasted for as long as they did certainly means they did something right. Quote
Fenghuang0296 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Falctron said: The only thing that could possibly cross that divide is a big marketing push like the first year had, or a popular tie-in show, like Ninjago had. One of the many sad facts of Nexo Knights demise is that the show got infinetly better in its third and fourth season. It just seems like the network had given up on the show in favor of showing Teen Titans Go nonstop. Hopefully it's not too late to see some more of what was planned. The Character Encyclopedia had some great Behind the Scenes stuff (like they knew this was their last chance to publish it). Hopefully we can see a digital version of this stuff on the official site as a sort of farewell retrospective. I curse the day that Teen Titans Go was conceived and a pox on everyone who ever worked on it. Literally nothing good has come out of that show. Literally. Nothing. I'd like that. Here's hoping. Quote
deneweth Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said: Nothing else with planned. It was the same thing that happened with Chima, 5 waves in total. Bad sales didn’t cause nexo Knights to be canceled it just didn’t save nexo Knights from continuing after it’s originally planned run That doesn't mean they didn't have a plan in case they did want to continue. I don't understand why we got so many new parts, especially from the villains, if they planned to only release these sets. They did all the legwork to make year 3 villains, made new parts and then gave us 2 set with them and some side builds in others. Quote
Fenghuang0296 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, deneweth said: That doesn't mean they didn't have a plan in case they did want to continue. I don't understand why we got so many new parts, especially from the villains, if they planned to only release these sets. They did all the legwork to make year 3 villains, made new parts and then gave us 2 set with them and some side builds in others. Exactly. The fact that they sculpted a new shield mold, something they wouldn't do for the Stone monsters and their Forbidden Powers, for the Vampires when the Forbidden Pwers have so much more plot significance than the fact that the Vampires hijacked the Nexo Power network does, says that. Although the dual-sided helmet mold says something else entirely. We haven't seen something like that since Hero Factory Year 2. So that's food for thought. Quote
Falconfan1414 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Feng-huang0296 said: Ah. I see. Well, that still shouldn't stop them from releasing pictures of unreleased sets. Or at least descriptions. . . . But Chima had six waves? I though it was 5 january 2013- wave one (cragger vs laval) summer 2013- wave 2 (cragger vs laval part 2) spring 2014- wave 3 (outlands) summer 2014- wave 4 (fire vs ice part one) winter 2015- wave 5 (fire and ice fire wings) Quote
BrickJagger Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Falconfan1414 said: Nothing else with planned. It was the same thing that happened with Chima, 5 waves in total. Bad sales didn’t cause nexo Knights to be canceled it just didn’t save nexo Knights from continuing after it’s originally planned run There were several indications given that we were going to get a sixth wave: - No Ruina in the Winter wave - New shield mold is made that is used exactly twice - Largest villain vehicle is a $30 set - No "general" figure for the Vampires - No vehicle for Macy - No structure of any kind for the Vampires - NO HUMAN MONSTROX We were most likely missing three sets. If I had to guess, they probably resembled the following: A mech for the Vampires in the $40 range (With a Mechbyter, the Vampire General, Queen Halberd and Lance) a full-size dragon for Macy in the $60 range (With Macy, adult Ava, Ruina, a Mechabyter and a squirebot, as well as a small flyer), and a fortress for the Vampires in the $80-90 range (With human Monstrox, a named Vampire lieutenant, a Mechabyter, a squirebot, Wizard Clay, human Merlok and Axl). That would have rounded out the theme nicely, and wouldn't have been too much of a commitment financially. To the people who are designing Vampire Castles in LDD, are your models going to resemble official Lego sets? I might be interested in building one if it fits in with the rest of the theme. Edited February 3, 2018 by BrickJagger Quote
Nexogeek Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, BrickJagger said: There were several indications given that we were going to get a sixth wave: - No Ruina in the Winter wave - New shield mold is made that is used exactly twice - Largest villain vehicle is a $30 set - No "general" figure for the Vampires - No vehicle for Macy - No structure of any kind for the Vampires - NO HUMAN MONSTROX We were most likely missing three sets. If I had to guess, they probably resembled the following: A mech for the Vampires in the $40 range (With a Mechbyter, the Vampire General, Queen Halberd and Lance) a full-size dragon for Macy in the $60 range (With Macy, adult Ava, Ruina, a Mechabyter and a squirebot, as well as a small flyer), and a fortress for the Vampires in the $80-90 range (With human Monstrox, a named Vampire lieutenant, a Mechabyter, a squirebot, Wizard Clay, human Merlok and Axl). That would have rounded out the theme nicely, and wouldn't have been too much of a commitment financially. To the people who are designing Vampire Castles in LDD, are your models going to resemble official Lego sets? I might be interested in building one if it fits in with the rest of the theme. What if, everyone is wrong about Nexo Knights ending? Has Lego released any official news stating the end of it? Hasn't the point of the entire theme and show been Monstrox gaining human form, and idk feels like they planned for the theme to go on a little longer with the possibility of Clay having a sibling and having magic in the last season. Here's hoping lego surprises us all! Quote
Dr.Cogg Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, BrickJagger said: There were several indications given that we were going to get a sixth wave: - No Ruina in the Winter wave - New shield mold is made that is used exactly twice - Largest villain vehicle is a $30 set - No "general" figure for the Vampires - No vehicle for Macy - No structure of any kind for the Vampires - NO HUMAN MONSTROX We were most likely missing three sets. If I had to guess, they probably resembled the following: A mech for the Vampires in the $40 range (With a Mechbyter, the Vampire General, Queen Halberd and Lance) a full-size dragon for Macy in the $60 range (With Macy, adult Ava, Ruina, a Mechabyter and a squirebot, as well as a small flyer), and a fortress for the Vampires in the $80-90 range (With human Monstrox, a named Vampire lieutenant, a Mechabyter, a squirebot, Wizard Clay, human Merlok and Axl). That would have rounded out the theme nicely, and wouldn't have been too much of a commitment financially. To the people who are designing Vampire Castles in LDD, are your models going to resemble official Lego sets? I might be interested in building one if it fits in with the rest of the theme. You forgot the brick built monster ( like Grimrock, Burnzie and Sparks). Quote
BrickJagger Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr.Cogg said: You forgot the brick built monster ( like Grimrock, Burnzie and Sparks). That's true, but we got a small mech in the January wave instead of a brick-built monster. Given that it's the first mech to ever be utilized by Nexo bad guys, I assume that the Vampires use mechs instead of golems. Sidenote: Now that I think of it, we should still hold out hope for Tech Vampire figure packs. Themes that are on the way out usually still receive a figure pack of some sort in their final year, and a set of three Vampires would be a great way to army build them, as it's currently very difficult. @Nabii Help us out please! Quote
Falconfan1414 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 56 minutes ago, Nexogeek said: What if, everyone is wrong about Nexo Knights ending? Has Lego released any official news stating the end of it? Hasn't the point of the entire theme and show been Monstrox gaining human form, and idk feels like they planned for the theme to go on a little longer with the possibility of Clay having a sibling and having magic in the last season. Here's hoping lego surprises us all! They said it at the toy fair. They said they reveleaed that nexo Knights wasn’t receiving any summer sets and the shelf life of the current sets was reduced to six months. The theme is coming to an end Quote
Fenghuang0296 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, BrickJagger said: We were most likely missing three sets. If I had to guess, they probably resembled the following: A mech for the Vampires in the $40 range (With a Mechbyter, the Vampire General, Queen Halberd and Lance) a full-size dragon for Macy in the $60 range (With Macy, adult Ava, Ruina, a Mechabyter and a squirebot, as well as a small flyer), and a fortress for the Vampires in the $80-90 range (With human Monstrox, a named Vampire lieutenant, a Mechabyter, a squirebot, Wizard Clay, human Merlok and Axl). That would have rounded out the theme nicely, and wouldn't have been too much of a commitment financially. To the people who are designing Vampire Castles in LDD, are your models going to resemble official Lego sets? I might be interested in building one if it fits in with the rest of the theme. I agree with all of that. I still kind of hope the last few sets will be released, but I'm not counting on it. Minor note, though; I doubt Macy would have gotten another dragon. More likely it would have been some sleek plane, or maybe something similar to Clay's Rumble Blade but without the splitting function. I am doing my best to design mine like a proper set - action features, taking notes from both the thematic of what's been seen from the Vampires thus far and the Volcano Lair from ages ago. In particular, I'm designing it so that it's sort of modular - one main 'keep' part, a 'battlement' area and a three-storey 'tower' section that contains a place for the Monstrox pedestal from 72004 to attach and a table beneath to hold Monstrox' human form. I'm also going with a sort of 'corrupted castle' aesthetic - the idea being that the castle existed already, and it was 'infected'. I'm waiting to see the show, though, before finalising the design, just in case something gets shown that I can make it look similar to. Quote
BrickJagger Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Feng-huang0296 said: I agree with all of that. I still kind of hope the last few sets will be released, but I'm not counting on it. Minor note, though; I doubt Macy would have gotten another dragon. More likely it would have been some sleek plane, or maybe something similar to Clay's Rumble Blade but without the splitting function. I am doing my best to design mine like a proper set - action features, taking notes from both the thematic of what's been seen from the Vampires thus far and the Volcano Lair from ages ago. In particular, I'm designing it so that it's sort of modular - one main 'keep' part, a 'battlement' area and a three-storey 'tower' section that contains a place for the Monstrox pedestal from 72004 to attach and a table beneath to hold Monstrox' human form. I'm also going with a sort of 'corrupted castle' aesthetic - the idea being that the castle existed already, and it was 'infected'. I'm waiting to see the show, though, before finalising the design, just in case something gets shown that I can make it look similar to. Great! I can't wait to see the finished product. I'm kind of worried about the show, though. We haven't heard anything about it this year, and we haven't even gotten a trailer. As the theme is being discontinued, it's possible that they might not even bother to release the final season. Quote
Nexogeek Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrickJagger said: Great! I can't wait to see the finished product. I'm kind of worried about the show, though. We haven't heard anything about it this year, and we haven't even gotten a trailer. As the theme is being discontinued, it's possible that they might not even bother to release the final season. If they don't release season 5 in any way shape or form i'd be disappointed due to how the last episode ended and no context to how the tech vampires are in universe. We did get that trailer on Nexo Knights theme page, not sure if it was meant for the game or not Quote
Cobb Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Lego thinks too much in themes. Maybe if they merged the Knights with Ninjago for a season, by bringen in a dimensions portal that could have opened up the theme for the Ninjago fans. My son too is a boig fan of the Nexo Knights, he's a fan of Ninjago too but the new 'Sons of" isn't appealing to him. And he's already flying around the house with 72003. Quote
Aanchir Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 17 hours ago, BrickJagger said: There were several indications given that we were going to get a sixth wave: - No Ruina in the Winter wave - New shield mold is made that is used exactly twice - Largest villain vehicle is a $30 set - No "general" figure for the Vampires - No vehicle for Macy - No structure of any kind for the Vampires - NO HUMAN MONSTROX Most of those things could indicate just one or two planned sets that were cancelled, not necessarily a full wave. Furthermore, I don't know why anyone expected a human Monstrox after he became digital this year? Seems to me like by the theme's logic, with so much of the world computerized and much of the Knights' strength originating from Merlok's Nexo Powers, a physical body for Monstrox would be a downgrade. The only way I might have anticipated a human Monstrox at this point would have been as a promotional item like the human Merlok figure, because taking the same form as the knights' trusted ally to turn all the forces they've come to rely on against them seems like the ideal scenario for Monstrox's final attack. Quote
Falctron Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Aanchir said: Most of those things could indicate just one or two planned sets that were cancelled, not necessarily a full wave. Furthermore, I don't know why anyone expected a human Monstrox after he became digital this year? Seems to me like by the theme's logic, with so much of the world computerized and much of the Knights' strength originating from Merlok's Nexo Powers, a physical body for Monstrox would be a downgrade. The only way I might have anticipated a human Monstrox at this point would have been as a promotional item like the human Merlok figure, because taking the same form as the knights' trusted ally to turn all the forces they've come to rely on against them seems like the ideal scenario for Monstrox's final attack. I concur. A pre-Book version of Monstrox makes sense as a promotional figure, but from a story perspective, it makes no sense. Last season he became a walking mountain, a human form is a downgrade after that, but becoming a computer virus is even better, as the only reason the knights have had any success against Monstrox to begin with is because of their technology. Turning that against them is pretty much the ultimate badguy move, and makes stealing Jestro's body seem pretty weak in comparison. Quote
Fenghuang0296 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Aanchir said: Furthermore, I don't know why anyone expected a human Monstrox after he became digital this year? Seems to me like by the theme's logic, with so much of the world computerized and much of the Knights' strength originating from Merlok's Nexo Powers, a physical body for Monstrox would be a downgrade. The only way I might have anticipated a human Monstrox at this point would have been as a promotional item like the human Merlok figure, because taking the same form as the knights' trusted ally to turn all the forces they've come to rely on against them seems like the ideal scenario for Monstrox's final attack. You actually make a good point . . never really thought about that, to be honest. Maybe I should strip out the part of my Vampire Castle devoted to restoring Monstrox' human body? Hmm . . . Quote
Nexogeek Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Aanchir said: Most of those things could indicate just one or two planned sets that were cancelled, not necessarily a full wave. Furthermore, I don't know why anyone expected a human Monstrox after he became digital this year? Seems to me like by the theme's logic, with so much of the world computerized and much of the Knights' strength originating from Merlok's Nexo Powers, a physical body for Monstrox would be a downgrade. The only way I might have anticipated a human Monstrox at this point would have been as a promotional item like the human Merlok figure, because taking the same form as the knights' trusted ally to turn all the forces they've come to rely on against them seems like the ideal scenario for Monstrox's final attack. But Monstrox being digital also has limitations such as Merlok 2.0, not being able to be a physical human and walk around where ever you want and such, Monstrox would still be a powerful Necromancer regardless so i wouldn't really say downgrade, a lot of the shows story arc is him regaining human form, and if memory serves correctly isn't Ava besides trying to restore Merlok's memory also trying to find out a way for Merlok to regain human form even though it wasn't touched on much in the show? I would think both Monstrox and Merlok regaining human form, Ruina turning good and Merlok, Ruina, and Clay defeating Monstrox for good would be the best ending the theme could have Quote
Whiteagle Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 18 hours ago, Falconfan1414 said: They said it at the toy fair. They said they reveleaed that nexo Knights wasn’t receiving any summer sets and the shelf life of the current sets was reduced to six months. The theme is coming to an end Wait, did they outright say the theme was canceled or did they say THIS exactly? Because no Summer Wave doesn't mean we aren't getting another Winter Wave... Quote
Bobathan Buan Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, Whiteagle said: Wait, did they outright say the theme was canceled or did they say THIS exactly? Because no Summer Wave doesn't mean we aren't getting another Winter Wave... Why would they skip a summer wave and do another winter wave. The theme would have to be cancelled and then brought back for that to happen. Quote
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