Jurassic World 2018 - Rumors and Discussion

[BaneShake]

I realize it's highly unlikely, but more than anything, I want Lego to release raptors in the proper scale to a minifigure. Right now, the raptors are just under 2.5x the size of a human-height raptor the movies tend to show.

[BasiliskSoldier]

Honestly, I don't mind the Raptors not being scaled properly. Makes them more viable for the Dino-Riders MOCs I like to do.

[Tom Jurassic]

6 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

When is London Toy Fair?

January. I am attending as a member of the Media, but I won't be able to share anything which isn't non-public unfortunately.

Anything I am allowed to share, I will!

[BasiliskSoldier]

So some of the Jurassic World mattel toys have leaked. Not a huge fan to be honest, but it does get me curious about some things.

There are a lot of new Theropods in this movie, Baryonyx, Allosaurus, Carnotaurus. Part of the reason I don't think we got any full new dinosaurs with the last wave was that excepting the Mosasaurus (which might have been too big) there weren't any new carnivores for LEGO to put in sets, and as we've learned, LEGO thinks kids only want to buy Carnivores.

But now we've got three potential mid-size carnivores for lego to make. Do we think Lego is going to make at least one of them into a set? They could probably re-use the same base moulds (torso, legs, tail) for all three and only change the heads and the arms.

[Tom Jurassic]

16 hours ago, BasiliskSoldier said:

So some of the Jurassic World mattel toys have leaked. Not a huge fan to be honest, but it does get me curious about some things.

There are a lot of new Theropods in this movie, Baryonyx, Allosaurus, Carnotaurus. Part of the reason I don't think we got any full new dinosaurs with the last wave was that excepting the Mosasaurus (which might have been too big) there weren't any new carnivores for LEGO to put in sets, and as we've learned, LEGO thinks kids only want to buy Carnivores.

But now we've got three potential mid-size carnivores for lego to make. Do we think Lego is going to make at least one of them into a set? They could probably re-use the same base moulds (torso, legs, tail) for all three and only change the heads and the arms.

I would like to hope so. The Barynoyx and the Carnotaurus are the most prominent. I'm a big part of the Jurassic community, and EVERYONE is excited for the Carnotaurus so I would be incredibly surprised if we don't get one - but it all comes down to cost.

The fact that Infinity War - Marvel's biggest film yet, has poor minifigure choices and other components make me question how much will be invested in new pieces in this line. I mean, if you've seen the leaks, you know that we are getting an SPOILER Indoraptor SPOILER - so that will be one mould for sure. The rest therefore becomes questionable as to whether they would do an other new moulds.

[BasiliskSoldier]

The thing is, a set of medium sized carnivore moulds would be a very useful piece for this and future dinosaur lines, and might even be useful for the Spoilersaurus

[Tom Jurassic]

5 hours ago, BasiliskSoldier said:

The thing is, a set of medium sized carnivore moulds would be a very useful piece for this and future dinosaur lines, and might even be useful for the Spoilersaurus

Quite possibly. I hope we see new moulds. It's high-time in my opinion. What we have heard, however, unfortunately suggests otherwise. 

[Digger of Bricks]

I know there's a lot of focus on the many different dinosaurs we'll see in these upcoming sets, but I'm somewhat interested to see how the vehicle builds will turn out in these. With 2015's Jurassic World, I wasn't really fond of the uniform blue and white color scheme adopted by the park vehicles; but with this movie, perhaps the armored vehicles seen in the trailer will retain a little more of their muted look and color, maybe with some slight brighter colored accenting to keep them from looking too militaristic. Also, like I mentioned earlier on this topic, I'd like to see a dingier, Trans-Brown recolor of the Gyrosphere.

As with minifigures, the attire seen donned by Chris Pratt's character on the island looks to make for a nice figure, particularly for his torso design, with maybe a Dark Brown/Reddish Brown torso depicting his vest and an Earth Blue shirt underneath. I'd wish for dual molded arms, but since they look like they're three quarters rolled up, we'll probably just get plain arms like last time.

[Tom Jurassic]

46 minutes ago, Digger of Bricks said:

I know there's a lot of focus on the many different dinosaurs we'll see in these upcoming sets, but I'm somewhat interested to see how the vehicle builds will turn out in these. With 2015's Jurassic World, I wasn't really fond of the uniform blue and white color scheme adopted by the park vehicles; but with this movie, perhaps the armored vehicles seen in the trailer will retain a little more of their muted look and color, maybe with some slight brighter colored accenting to keep them from looking too militaristic. Also, like I mentioned earlier on this topic, I'd like to see a dingier, Trans-Brown recolor of the Gyrosphere.

As with minifigures, the attire seen donned by Chris Pratt's character on the island looks to make for a nice figure, particularly for his torso design, with maybe a Dark Brown/Reddish Brown torso depicting his vest and an Earth Blue shirt underneath. I'd wish for dual molded arms, but since they look like they're three quarters rolled up, we'll probably just get plain arms like last time.

I reckon we have good bets with the vehicles. The Unimogs, etc are all in quite military-esque tones. One description seems to confirm the Unimog Troop Transport variant.

As for minifigs - don't hold your breath. Infinity War figures were lax, so I don't expect better here.

[GoldenNinja3000]

25 minutes ago, LegoFan117 said:

I reckon we have good bets with the vehicles. The Unimogs, etc are all in quite military-esque tones. One description seems to confirm the Unimog Troop Transport variant.

As for minifigs - don't hold your breath. Infinity War figures were lax, so I don't expect better here.

Marvel’s figure quality has been dropping over the last two years though, especially in 2017, but other lines still have the same level of detail on their figures. DC Super Heroes, Star Wars, Batman Movie, Ninjago Movie, etc. are all still amazing. 

[TheBrickBuilder14]

4 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

Marvel’s figure quality has been dropping over the last two years though, especially in 2017, but other lines still have the same level of detail on their figures. DC Super Heroes, Star Wars, Batman Movie, Ninjago Movie, etc. are all still amazing. 

I disagree with that statement. I believe that the current 2018 DC line is equal to the Marvel infinity line as they also mostly don't feature any leg/arm printing. I believe that the recent financial letdowns have made Lego cutting the budgets for licensed themes and as such they are now less likely to include arm/leg printing and or dual molded boots. The Lego Batman Movie theme is an exception to this but that is most likely because those sets were designed quite some time ago. Over time I believe that the current quality of printing will be the norm, at least until Lego feel they are in the financial position to up their game again or they find a way to make printing/dual molding cheaper.

[GoldenNinja3000]

32 minutes ago, TheBrickBuilder14 said:

I disagree with that statement. I believe that the current 2018 DC line is equal to the Marvel infinity line as they also mostly don't feature any leg/arm printing. I believe that the recent financial letdowns have made Lego cutting the budgets for licensed themes and as such they are now less likely to include arm/leg printing and or dual molded boots. The Lego Batman Movie theme is an exception to this but that is most likely because those sets were designed quite some time ago. Over time I believe that the current quality of printing will be the norm, at least until Lego feel they are in the financial position to up their game again or they find a way to make printing/dual molding cheaper.

I don’t know, the new DC figs seem pretty much like the other DC minifigures in terms of how much printing they get. I never really look for arm printing or dual molded legs, they’re a rarity for me. But with lots of recent Marvel figures, they’ve been looking half finished without any kind of leg printing (the Black Panther figures especially). I think the Jurassic World figures will be okay enough for me, I just hope we don’t get a bunch of random useless characters like we did last time (why were there so many vets?). 

[TheBrickBuilder14]

Just now, GoldenNinja3000 said:

I don’t know, the new DC figs seem pretty much like the other DC minifigures in terms of how much printing they get. I never really look for arm printing or dual molded legs, they’re a rarity for me. But with lots of recent Marvel figures, they’ve been looking half finished without any kind of leg printing (the Black Panther figures especially). I think the Jurassic World figures will be okay enough for me, I just hope we don’t get a bunch of random useless characters like we did last time (why were there so many vets?). 

Thing is that with Marvel Lego also has to work with just concept art so that also explains why they look less finished compared to the final thing. Regarding the vets I think that in a Jurassic movie there simply aren't enough "main stars" to put in the sets and since Lego won't want to sell a set without any figures and as such no antagonist for the Dinosaurs they just throw in a few expendable characters for the sake of it.

[Tom Jurassic]

21 minutes ago, TheBrickBuilder14 said:

Thing is that with Marvel Lego also has to work with just concept art so that also explains why they look less finished compared to the final thing. Regarding the vets I think that in a Jurassic movie there simply aren't enough "main stars" to put in the sets and since Lego won't want to sell a set without any figures and as such no antagonist for the Dinosaurs they just throw in a few expendable characters for the sake of it.

I can confirm for you both that this film has a significantly larger cast - with a mixture of both main and supporting characters. Of the top of my head, we should be seeing screen-time for around at least 8 main characters.

I do, however, feel that the statement about Marvel/DC still applies. We know LEGO's revenue saw a drop - so sadly, products will probably feel the brunt of that. Whilst I hope for new dino moulds, I think this cost factor may also prohibit that.

I do agree that the Ninajgo/LEGO Batman sets are still high quality - but it always seems to go that way when they are LEGO's own licenses. Plus, we know Star Wars has always been the love-child - numerous repeat models still sell in that line.

I hope my worries are put to rest, and we get some awesome products. From all the film insight I have, we have some really cool sequences which would make for incredible toys. The ball is, however, in LEGO's park now - and only time will tell what we get.

 

[GoldenNinja3000]

I honestly don’t care too much about the figures for the Fallen Kingdom sets. I hope we get good new designs for Owen and Claire, and I’m sure the military guys will be the army builder figures like the ACU troopers from the first movie. The only thing I really want from the figures is a new Chris Pratt face, but given that the Infinity War Star-Lord figure uses the same head from the 2014 sets I doubt we’ll get a new one for Fallen Kingdom. What I most want out of these sets are some new dinosaur molds- especially a sauropod, mosasaur, and a medium sized theropod. I doubt all of that will happen, though. Maybe we’ll only get new molds for the hybrid, but I think it’s time for some new species to enter the mix. 

[BaneShake]

Maybe it's just my dark sense of humor, but I'm most definitely okay with getting plenty of generic figs alongside the real, named characters, primarily because it's just not Jurassic Park without copious amounts of barely-named people getting dino-murdered! 

That being said, any variety is good. Even if it's all the same few characters, I just want to see quality differences between figures (no Captain Jack or Shaggy situations, please!).

[BasiliskSoldier]

The thing about Mosasaurus and Sauropods is that the moulds required would be quite large, and unless LEGO gives Jurassic Park an UCS set, I doubt they'll put a mould like those out. Especially considering that LEGO seems to be avoiding herbivores, even ones they have moulds for, so I doubt we'll see a Sauropod.

[GoldenNinja3000]

6 hours ago, BasiliskSoldier said:

The thing about Mosasaurus and Sauropods is that the moulds required would be quite large, and unless LEGO gives Jurassic Park an UCS set, I doubt they'll put a mould like those out. Especially considering that LEGO seems to be avoiding herbivores, even ones they have moulds for, so I doubt we'll see a Sauropod.

That’s my fear as well, but we do need to remember that they did Smaug justice with 9 large extremely detailed new molds that were only used once. 

[Tom Jurassic]

16 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

That’s my fear as well, but we do need to remember that they did Smaug justice with 9 large extremely detailed new molds that were only used once. 

Smaug is a very good point actually.

I would believe a Brachio/Apatosaur is a possibility, but not a likelihood.

However, it all depends. 2018 is also the 25th Anniversary of Jurassic Park, so perhaps if the JW sets sell well, we may see a Store-Exclusive JP set. Who knows what LEGO have planned.

[BasiliskSoldier]

The thing about Smaug is that there wasn't really anything competing for space with him. It's not like Smaug was a minor dragon compared to a few other, smaller dragons with more important roles. Brachiosaurus and Mosasaurus are competing for space against Tyrannosaurus, a creature lego already has moulds for. Smaug's also got a lot less mass than Brachiosaurus or Mosasaurus, and can be represented accurately with smaller moulds.

That being said, I would adore a UCS Visitors Center with a Brachiosaurus.

[Tom Jurassic]

7 hours ago, BasiliskSoldier said:

The thing about Smaug is that there wasn't really anything competing for space with him. It's not like Smaug was a minor dragon compared to a few other, smaller dragons with more important roles. Brachiosaurus and Mosasaurus are competing for space against Tyrannosaurus, a creature lego already has moulds for. Smaug's also got a lot less mass than Brachiosaurus or Mosasaurus, and can be represented accurately with smaller moulds.

That being said, I would adore a UCS Visitors Center with a Brachiosaurus.

Very fair point, mate.

Did you see the Apatosaur mould in the LEGO JW game? That seemed slightly smaller than a Brachiosaur - maybe more feasible too.

[GoldenNinja3000]

8 hours ago, BasiliskSoldier said:

The thing about Smaug is that there wasn't really anything competing for space with him. It's not like Smaug was a minor dragon compared to a few other, smaller dragons with more important roles. Brachiosaurus and Mosasaurus are competing for space against Tyrannosaurus, a creature lego already has moulds for. Smaug's also got a lot less mass than Brachiosaurus or Mosasaurus, and can be represented accurately with smaller moulds.

That being said, I would adore a UCS Visitors Center with a Brachiosaurus.

I’d be okay with them downsizing a Mosasaur a bit as long as we get one. I feel like it was the breakout “dinosaur” of Jurassic World, and the rumored submarine chase scene in Fallen Kingdom seems like too big of an opportunity to miss. I think Lego knows it needs to diversify their dinosaurs, I just hope they’ll actually do it. 

[BasiliskSoldier]

A Mosasaurus is much more likely than a sauropod in my eyes. I'd say if Jurassic World gets a second 2018 wave or a 2019 wave, a Mosasaurus would probably be included. Of course LEGO probably won't make another wave until the next film, and I don't know why. These sets sell like hotcakes, at least at the store I go to. Kids like dinosaurs, People like dinosaurs, these things sell.

EDIT: I just realized I forgot to explain my rationale for Mosasaurus being likely in a second wave. I think the reason, or part of the reason, the dinosaur selection in these lines is so standard is because LEGO releases them so far apart. As it stands there have been intervals of three years, between Dinosaur set releases. LEGO never has space to add unconventional choices because the conventional choices a lot of kids want are long out of production and stock.

Edited December 28, 2017 by BasiliskSoldier

[TheGlynreaper]

On ‎13‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 3:58 PM, GoldenNinja3000 said:

When is London Toy Fair?

I think its late january

 

[Tom Jurassic]

8 hours ago, TheGlynreaper said:

I think its late january

 

It is indeed. :)