1gor Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, AVCampos said: I don't like long beams for chassis much, as they twist and flex a lot if they don't have lots of bracing. It's a bit cumbersome to integrate with studless techniques, but a studded chassis is rock solid. But it has 13 5 x 7 frames so this could help prevent chassis bending Quote
kbalage Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 After realizing my complete lack of truck/crane operator knowledge I created a new video where the trailer is connected to the truck when I'm lifting the container - this time the trailer was much more stable. I also did another weight lifting test with a moderate load - container and the battery boxes were 600g together - and the cranes were able to deal with it, although it was pretty hard to turn the knobs. I also created a quick proof of concept RC mod with a Servo motor, L motor for drive and a rechargeable battery box (works with AAA as well). Could be IR controlled but I used an Sbrick so I was able to hide it. L motor direct drive is apparently to quick for the truck so it seems to be unrealistic, might be better geared down or with an XL (better towing capabilities as well). Quote
legolijntje Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Any possibilities to easily motorize the trailer-functions as well (not necessarily RC)? Quote
astra Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Thanks for this second video! Nicely done and informative! Makes me eager to buy the set and motorize it as well, including the trailer. Quote
JGW3000 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 The RC conversion worked so easy, I am thinking the model was designed for it - then it is surprising that this isn't an official mod with instructions, etc. as per prior RC-optional models. Quote
kbalage Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, JGW3000 said: The RC conversion worked so easy, I am thinking the model was designed for it - then it is surprising that this isn't an official mod with instructions, etc. as per prior RC-optional models. Usually if Lego offers a PF upgrade that's really "remove 2 parts and add the motor" style. Here I had to rearrange a lot of things, e.g remove the bunk bed completely, remove the 5x7 frame supporting the rear section, rearrange and move the steering mechanism, find a new way to get the drive from the motor to the fake engine etc. And it was only a proof of concept to see if the components can be shoveled in the box. To make it properly - e.g. whith an easily accessible battery box - I'll need to redesign the whole innen structure of the cabin's rear section including the steering. Quote
Aventador2004 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 12 hours ago, kbalage said: Part list for the Mack: Almost more system than technic! Quote
1gor Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 @kbalage thanks for additional video. There are indeed two steering wheels on B-model: on the left and on the right side Quote
nerdsforprez Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Wonderful 2nd video. Lifting 600 grams was a big surprise, even if it was hard to do. Other models, even well-loved ones put out by TLG, like 42042 and 8288 could not lift this much without some modification. I think lifting 600 grams should appease most buyers...... Quote
aminnich Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said: I think lifting 600 grams should appease most buyers...... How much are you planning on your trailer being able to lift? I am not sure you are including yourself in "most buyers" Quote
nerdsforprez Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Not sure what you mean here. In the video @kbalage lifted 600g. That is what I was referring to. I do not think most people will be even attempting or surpassing that. Most than that would seem excessive, given that other Lego models whose primary function is to lift stuff (8288, 42042, 42009) didn't lift that much without modifications or some difficulty . Upshot: I think the lifting capability on this this model is above average. In fact, even though @kbalage showed that the model can lift 600 grams not sure many will want to actually do that and drive the truck around. Remember the weak connection pointed out by some of the trailer to the truck....I am sure this would bend even more with heavy load in the container...... Quote
iv-tecman Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Either way, this model does seem to perform extremely well, is a pleasant mix of system and Technic, looks nice. can have PF added, not as easy as TLG PF upgrade options for other models, but it is still very possible, and the B model is also very nice. All in all, looks to be a great addition to the 2018 Technic line up. Quote
u118224 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) On a somewhat related note, where can I find/buy the Figurines Kbalage uses in his videos? Update: Nevermind, I think I found some. Edited December 20, 2017 by u118224 Quote
evortigosa Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 4:02 PM, kbalage said: After realizing my complete lack of truck/crane operator knowledge I created a new video where the trailer is connected to the truck when I'm lifting the container - this time the trailer was much more stable. I also did another weight lifting test with a moderate load - container and the battery boxes were 600g together - and the cranes were able to deal with it, although it was pretty hard to turn the knobs. I also created a quick proof of concept RC mod with a Servo motor, L motor for drive and a rechargeable battery box (works with AAA as well). Could be IR controlled but I used an Sbrick so I was able to hide it. L motor direct drive is apparently to quick for the truck so it seems to be unrealistic, might be better geared down or with an XL (better towing capabilities as well). 5 Awesome work! Is there space in the trailer to automate the crane? Would be nice to see it :) I am impressed with this set, 2600 bricks for a 1H set... It is almost the 42009! Quote
BrickbyBrickTechnic Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 @kbalage Thanks for the awesome video! This is definitely one of my favorite sets of the past few waves. Can we expect any more videos on 1h sets soon? Quote
kbalage Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 @evortigosa There's definitely space in the trailer to put motors in it, although you'll need some rearrangement either of the axles or the support beams. @BrickbyBrickTechnic I managed to buy the Mack and the Rally Car only. I'm planning to get the First responder as it looks interesting to make RC but it's not available yet around here. Quote
efferman Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 My Mack is built and it is a very nice Set with many good parts Step 1 and surprisingly only one bag finally.... Step 2 Nice, but short Bed a nice surprice to see no panels as seats Step 3 and the Doors simply one pin hinges. very wobbly Step 4 and the Anthem is done The silver parts and the Mack emblem are printed. The sleeper looks not wide enough Quote
JGW3000 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 Thanks for the extra pictures Efferman. Does anyone know what "MP 8" on the engine block refers too? I am thinking its obvious but I am somewhat dense sometimes. Also, I am not liking the assemtrity of the three slope bricks just below the dog. Shouldn't it be 2-1-2, rather than 2-2-1? Quote
1gor Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Mp8 is 13l engine https://www.macktrucks.com/powertrain-and-suspensions/engines/mp8/ Brochure http://www.sidleytrucks.com/MP7MP8EngBroPDF.pdf Edited December 21, 2017 by I_Igor Quote
Aventador2004 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, efferman said: I think it is for better stability. Yes, because of the intersecting plates there, it needs that way. Quote
AndroTech Posted December 21, 2017 Author Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Aventador2004 said: Yes, because of the intersecting plates there, it needs that way. On the box picture, the one stud slope is in the middle ... I wonder what the instruction says ... Quote
kbalage Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, JGW3000 said: Thanks for the extra pictures Efferman. Does anyone know what "MP 8" on the engine block refers too? I am thinking its obvious but I am somewhat dense sometimes. Also, I am not liking the assemtrity of the three slope bricks just below the dog. Shouldn't it be 2-1-2, rather than 2-2-1? If you check the box art it should be 2-1-2, I also built it that way. The panels underneath have 2 layers so despite the asymmetry there they support each other. The instruction also shows 2-1-2 layout. Edited December 21, 2017 by kbalage Quote
Aventador2004 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, AndroTech said: On the box picture, the one stud slope is in the middle ... I wonder what the instruction says ... That is odd, they usually do it 2-2-1 in those cases. Quote
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