Slope piece is still used for minifigure dresses...?

[koalayummies]

Here's a more detailed look at the new dress piece courtesy The Brick Fan from video at the NY Toy Fair, long studs like minifigure legs:

https://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-new-york-toy-fair-2018-set-images/

 

Edited February 17, 2018 by koalayummies

[x105Black]

1 hour ago, koalayummies said:

Here's a more detailed look at the new dress piece courtesy The Brick Fan from video at the NY Toy Fair, long studs like minifigure legs:

https://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-new-york-toy-fair-2018-set-images/

Would have been nice to see a couple more angles from the side and back (where the slope is), but still good to know it has the pegs (which I think we all assumed it would).

[koalayummies]

1 hour ago, x105Black said:

Would have been nice to see a couple more angles from the side and back (where the slope is), but still good to know it has the pegs (which I think we all assumed it would).

Side profile picture of the piece from the minifigure hairpiece thread of the Harry Potter set:

Edited February 17, 2018 by koalayummies

[x105Black]

Thanks.  I had seen a good shot from the Solo movie sets, but a good 3D video view could have been more in depth, especially considering the video is focused on that piece.

[Maple]

On 1/30/2018 at 12:42 AM, Artanis I said:

New part is only 20 or 30 years overdue... yet every year a big bang theme gets heaps of 1 use weapons or other unnecessary new moulded parts.

The mind boggles

LEGO makes some odd picks though the years. Train designers needed to fight for new train wheels, and the a few pieces. But how many helmets have we gotten throughout the years? LEGO made that minifigure tree piece before releasing a dress piece?

[Boettner Builds]

That new dress piece also looks to address the height issue as well!

[Lyichir]

On 2/18/2018 at 5:20 PM, Maple said:

LEGO makes some odd picks though the years. Train designers needed to fight for new train wheels, and the a few pieces. But how many helmets have we gotten throughout the years? LEGO made that minifigure tree piece before releasing a dress piece?

I imagine it's often harder to pitch a brand-new replacement for an existing "good enough" technique than it is to introduce a new part for a scenario where existing parts simply won't do. The old slope brick dresses weren't perfect but they were still effective and had a pretty classic lineage. Changing that up was probably a pretty big ask, especially when fan responses to those sorts of changes to a long-held status quo are not always that favorable anyway.

[Juxtapoisson]

On 2/17/2018 at 10:53 AM, x105Black said:

Would have been nice to see a couple more angles from the side and back (where the slope is), but still good to know it has the pegs (which I think we all assumed it would).

I HOPED it would, that's not quite the same thing.   /wink

I guess I would like to see a skirt/dress bottom that uses a normal lego waist and the tent would just be on the leg pieces.  It wouldn't look as nice, but it would do better action shots.  It still may not allow sitting.

[koalayummies]

A new mold costs what, five to six figures to make? And it took how long just to get a better purpose made piece for a fairly widely used minifigure part? I'm just happy that we finally have a new piece in which torsos won't fall off of at the slightest bump.  

58 minutes ago, Juxtapoisson said:

I guess I would like to see a skirt/dress bottom that uses a normal lego waist and the tent would just be on the leg pieces.  It wouldn't look as nice, but it would do better action shots.  It still may not allow sitting.

In the off chance that sitting, running or action is needed to be momentarily simulated that can be done with various other bricks, the arms flailing and or facial expression. Plus wouldn't most people wearing a dress that touches the floor like this and needing to run lift the dress off the ground in order to do so effectively? We should see some yellow Lego legs sticking out and a bunched up dress in that case. You might be waiting another 20-30 years for that one.

Again I'm just happy we got something that is better than what was being used before.

[Juxtapoisson]

2 hours ago, koalayummies said:

Plus wouldn't most people wearing a dress that touches the floor like this and needing to run lift the dress off the ground in order to do so effectively? We should see some yellow Lego legs sticking out and a bunched up dress in that case.

Broadly, yes.  But the wedge stands in for plain dresses as well as fancy ball dresses.  The shape and action of the leg is more obvious in simpler lighter dresses.  And there's no reason such a piece couldn't have the shoes sticking out anyway.  Most dresses don't touch the ground anymore.

[Aine]

I thought (and wrote) about this issue in different thread, but it definitely belongs here, so yeah. Follows my original post:

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I'm not a fan of how female minifigs are solved in LEGO, namely their legs. The "skirt" solution has nice printings, but the women can't sit down or ride the horse properly, and viewed from the side, they look too blocky. Using the normal legs makes them a bit masculine; they look like wearing leggings, not skirt or dress.
I build a skirt+legs+shoes with a 2x1 brick for skirt, 1x1 round plates for each leg and then 1x1 square plate for shoe, but it's not nice and doesn't fix the articulation issue.

 

I think I'll stay true to the minifig legs. Idk why lego cannot design new "Movable Skirt" piece, it'll be amazing.
I will look through the new Harry Potter middle-sized legs, maybe they'll be usable.

Cheers!

Edited July 10, 2018 by Aine

[x105Black]

Yeah, it would have been a great idea to include a hinge in the new skirt piece.

[BrickJagger]

I think that there should be a new skirt piece of some kind. The current slope looks too blocky (  ) and comes off easily due to being more like a brick than regular legs. 

Another thing is that I would like the skirt to be moveable to get some "action" poses.

 

Edited July 13, 2018 by BrickJagger

[Aanchir]

On 7/12/2018 at 11:15 PM, BrickJagger said:

I think that there should be a new skirt piece of some kind. The current slope looks too blocky (  ) and comes off easily due to being more like a brick than regular legs.

There is one in the new Harry Potter sets that solves both those issues, though it is still not posable.

Personally I think that pieces like the 2x2x2 slope brick or the new gown element work best for long fancy gowns, and I don't think it would be typical for a person in a long gown like that to ride a horse anyhow. But if need be, you can just swap the gown for a stack of bricks and plates, or for normal minifig legs, since a saddle will cover up most of the distinguishing details anyhow. For sitting figures I think swapping the gown for normal legs is also an acceptable solution, and I believe this is what is done for Professor McGonagall in the new Harry Potter Great Hall set.

It would probably be possible to create a posable gown element (after all, there is one for mini-dolls), but I do not think it would be appropriate for all the same styles of gown, since for the figure to be able to sit it would have to be more or less flat in the back rather than trailing behind. Even with mini-dolls the Disney Princess sets introduced a new non-posable gown element for characters with more billowing dress shapes than the posable gown element.

[MAB]

On 7/16/2018 at 4:58 PM, Aanchir said:

Personally I think that pieces like the 2x2x2 slope brick or the new gown element work best for long fancy gowns, and I don't think it would be typical for a person in a long gown like that to ride a horse anyhow. But if need be, you can just swap the gown for a stack of bricks and plates, or for normal minifig legs, since a saddle will cover up most of the distinguishing details anyhow.

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The long dresses are why it is traditional for ladies to ride side-saddle. Although this could be brick built.

Edited July 18, 2018 by MAB

[x105Black]

On 7/18/2018 at 7:26 AM, MAB said:

The long dresses are why it is traditional for ladies to ride side-saddle. Although this could be brick built.

Not very well, and especially not if there is a print involved.

[Aanchir]

On 7/21/2018 at 4:17 AM, x105Black said:

Not very well, and especially not if there is a print involved.

Sure, but I can't really think of any way to design a bespoke gown piece that would work for both standing and riding side-saddle. After all, even regular minifig legs don't have knee joints.

[x105Black]

3 hours ago, Aanchir said:

Sure, but I can't really think of any way to design a bespoke gown piece that would work for both standing and riding side-saddle. After all, even regular minifig legs don't have knee joints.

True.  Lack of side-saddling is just something I guess I've come to accept.