Bartybum Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Frequenzberater said: You may be right, but from that point of view, there is no need for any kind of transmission :D Not true actually! You can use manual transmission without PF and still see the effect it has on the engine. With automatic trans you’d need to hold on to the crankshaft to create the stress in the drivetrain required to change gears. Quote
Frequenzberater Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Ok, now I understand what you are talking about Quote
Didumos69 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, Aventador2004 said: I thought it was called that. I think it is called 'earth blue'. Quote
Bartybum Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) @Frequenzberater Technically you could have auto transmission at a really high gear such that pushing the car forward would force the transmission to lower a gear, but then you’re stuck with the problem that you only get a high and low gear, and only get to use the low one when the car’s rolling. In addition the gears wouldn’t change when you push the model uphill, which is the whole schtick of auto transmissions. So, you could have it, but it just wouldn’t function nicely Edited May 25, 2018 by Bartybum Quote
zux Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Didumos69 said: I think it is called 'earth blue'. Yes, Earth Blue [TLG], Dark Blue [BL] Quote
Aventador2004 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Didumos69 said: I think it is called 'earth blue'. There it is! Quote
Jack Bloomer Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) What do you guys think of the new wheel hub? Honestly, i love it and in my personal opinion for my models, think it is game-changing. Edited May 25, 2018 by Jack Bloomer Quote
ibessonov Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jack Bloomer said: What do you guys think of the new wheel hub? It's been discussed already, check out previous pages. And please don't post leaked images, it's against the rules here. Answering your question - I think these hubs are awesome, but it's not clear yet how deep they fit in the rim. Edited May 25, 2018 by ibessonov Quote
zux Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 It is hard to tell if it is actual a game-changer until we see the other side of this part. At the moment is looks to be a pure aesthetical part. Quote
Jack Bloomer Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ibessonov said: It's been discussed already, check out previous pages. And please don't post leaked images, it's against the rules here. Answering your question - I think these hubs are awesome, but it's not clear yet how deep they fit in the rim. I agree 3 minutes ago, zux said: It is hard to tell if it is actual a game-changer until we see the other side of this part. At the moment is looks to be a pure aesthetical part. We'll see if we can use the rubber pieces on the new hub kinda like Sheepo did with his custom wheel hubs with the Mustang and Porsche Quote
Bublehead Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jack Bloomer said: game-changing. You need to be careful when using these words around here <sheds tear>, believe me, I know from personal experience. ? Quote
Johnny1360 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Addressing automatic transmission thing, I think most people are talking about a transmission that shifts gears as needed automatically. While I guess that would be cool, the main function of an automatic transmission is the ability to multiply torque via a fluid coupling, which while it would be very cool, I just don't see that happening with LEGO and it would definitely require power functions to implement. Quote
Jack Bloomer Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Bublehead said: You need to be careful when using these words around here <sheds tear>, believe me, I know from personal experience. ? Could you send private message about what you're referencing? Quote
Meatman Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ibessonov said: It's been discussed already, check out previous pages. And please don't post leaked images, it's against the rules here. Answering your question - I think these hubs are awesome, but it's not clear yet how deep they fit in the rim. They should fit just as deep as the regular hubs. Quote
agrof Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Actually I don't mind if there are no super spectacular functions, other what we can expect from a car, what I would more desire is a life-like building process. I could imagine modular build: chassis - suspension - engine - cabin with interieur - body (panels). This would add a lot of fun to the building experience! Quote
Flossie Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 The real Chiron does not have an automatic gearbox, therefore I am not expecting the same in the Lego version. It has a dual clutch transmission (DCT), which is similar to the Porsche PDK transmission found in the GT3 RS set, so it makes sense to do the same in Lego. Quote
Meatman Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Flossie said: The real Chiron does not have an automatic gearbox, therefore I am not expecting the same in the Lego version. It has a dual clutch transmission (DCT), which is similar to the Porsche PDK transmission found in the GT3 RS set, so it makes sense to do the same in Lego. Actually it does have an automatic gearbox. Or it can be shifted with paddles. Edited May 25, 2018 by Meatman Quote
charlesw Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Paddles on the Chiron are actually pretty small and are attached to the streering wheel whereas in the Porsche, they are immediately obvious... Furthermore : the Chiron is all about absolute power and absolute luxury whereas the GT3 RS is supposed to be a very spartan car lego technic human actuated paddles do require quite a bit of a leverage (or travel) to work properly, so I don't think it would have been possible to have both paddles and a nice cockpit...PvdB's Koenigsegg One:1 has small paddles, but they are definitely not intended for humans :-) Quote
Saberwing40k Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 PvDB also has hidden paddles. You could have that in the dashboard. Technically speaking, the Chiron has an automated manual transmission. Most of the components are the same as a standard manual transmission, but the clutch and shifting are controlled via computer. This is entirely different from an automatic transmission. However, a sequential transmission can be controlled mechanically, as done in a motorcycle and some race cars. I hope Lego does it better this time. Quote
BrickWild Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 I saw a recent video showing the back of the box this morning. Quote
charlesw Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 @Saberwing40k in PvdB's Koenigsegg the dashboard shifters add quite a lot of complexity and are not all that reliable ;-) Quote
StewFromIndy Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Someone got some pictures of the Bugatti build at a LEGO store. Posted them to reddit legotechnic channel if anyone is interested. There is a really interesting new transmission piece! And you can see the brake rotors. Quote
Lipko Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 20T clutch gear. Also that rotational changeover thing. Parts we are waiting for decades, and will make pretty much all Lego supercars up to date obsolete... Edited May 26, 2018 by Lipko Quote
ibessonov Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 So they built it and posted the process, what a shame... I'm ok with leakage of box art, but this is just ridiculous. Quote
valenciaeric Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Wow, blue cogs and multiple manuals! I´ll admit now that the discs are part of the new hub! Quote
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