42082 - Rough Terrain Crane

[Lipko]

That's a decent inventory. Maybe that'd  be my first piece of furniture after moving.

[Bartybum]

6 hours ago, aminnich said:

Because it would not be a modern technic set without them 

Or because it was the cheapest option to just use that colour this time round. I’m willing to bet there’s some sort of algorithm that calculates the cheapest colour option for a piece based on multiple variables to do with the production line.

[1gor]

1 hour ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

The chassis is wide but the gear rack is only 7L and there is no tow ball connector liftarm -> Ackermann steering

Well there are 4 portal axle hubs which make axle wider by default...?

20 minutes ago, Lipko said:

That's a decent inventory. Maybe that'd  be my first piece of furniture after moving.

That would be also nice decoration on any kind of furniture ?

18 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

Or because it was the cheapest option to just use that colour this time round. I’m willing to bet there’s some sort of algorithm that calculates the cheapest colour option for a piece based on multiple variables to do with the production line.

Or particular (different) color is used to indicate functionality or to make building and connecting modules easier ?

[Ox1337]

8 hours ago, Jeroen Ottens said:

It is quite an asymmetric model:

5 left, 6 right small red panels
only 1 5x7 curved red panel
3 left 3x5 red panels
1 right 3x7 red panel

I've never seen so many unmatched panels in one set ever.

Have a look to gearbox cover:

https://imgur.com/a/1vqYuwU

Yes, I don't like such asymmetry too

[fred-eric]

11 hours ago, Ctan said:

 

 

I've got mine a couple days ago. In Poland it's available to buy over a 2 weeks I think. 

Finally black banana gears! :)

If you need any more picture just let me know. Currently I'm assembling this set. 

Thank you for sharing

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Since there are no worm gears, I think the rubber bands will be employed in some mechanism to keep the telescopic boom from collapsing and keep the winch from dropping. There are 2 rubber bands, so it's likely.

15 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

Well there are 4 portal axle hubs which make axle wider by default...?

42070 also uses portal axle hubs but has a 13L gear rack.

[Jim]

6 hours ago, aminnich said:

Because it would not be a modern technic set without them 

Exactly 

1 hour ago, Ctan said:

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to publish pictures. Should I?

Since this is not a major release, with an event, like the Bugatti and it's already available in stores, I don't see any objections. The internet will be flooded with them soon anyway. Thanks for thinking about the embargo though. I appreciate that  

[Bartybum]

22 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

Or particular (different) color is used to indicate functionality or to make building and connecting modules easier ?

Sorry if my original comment sounded harsh, that wasn’t my intention. I’m not so sure they’d be indicating functionality, given there’s almost 50 of them. We’ll just have to wait and see

[1gor]

3 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

Sorry if my original comment sounded harsh, that wasn’t my intention. I’m not so sure they’d be indicating functionality, given there’s almost 50 of them. We’ll just have to wait and see

No problem, I did not got impression of any harshness in your post ?

14 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Since there are no worm gears, I think the rubber bands will be employed in some mechanism to keep the telescopic boom from collapsing and keep the winch from dropping. There are 2 rubber bands, so it's likely.

42070 also uses portal axle hubs but has a 13L gear rack.

But it looks to me that 42070 is wider ?

Anyway after @Jim's review we will be much smarter ?

[Jim]

Just now, I_Igor said:

Anyway after @Jim's review we will be much smarter ?

Sets due tomorrow!

[1gor]

Just now, Jim said:

Sets due tomorrow!

Good news ?

[Jim]

55 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

Or because it was the cheapest option to just use that colour this time round. I’m willing to bet there’s some sort of algorithm that calculates the cheapest colour option for a piece based on multiple variables to do with the production line.

That is indeed the case sometimes. You do see TLG using a certain piece in multiple sets, while it is only useful in one particular set. Since they are producing this piece anyway, it's probably cheaper to use this piece than to use it in a different color. Maybe one day, I can get tangible information about this phenomenon.

Just now, I_Igor said:

Good news ?

Yup. And I will try to do the write-up, along with the build. So when I have finished the model, the write-up should be (nearly) done too. I have been planning on doing this lots of times, but for some reason this strategy doesn't seem to fly. I will give it another go.

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[1gor]

5 minutes ago, Jim said:

That is indeed the case sometimes. You do see TLG using a certain piece in multiple sets, while it is only useful in one particular set. Since they are producing this piece anyway, it's probably cheaper to use this piece than to use it in a different color. Maybe one day, I can get tangible information about this phenomenon.

Yup. And I will try to do the write-up, along with the build. So when I have finished the model, the write-up should be (nearly) done too. I have been planning on doing this lots of times, but for some reason this strategy doesn't seem to fly. I will give it another go.

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Yes I know from my previous jobs, you have to make notes for every step, otherwise you always miss something and you have to check and re-check...I'm really looking froward to read your review ?

[Ctan]

Ok, so I'll post my work in progress, I don't have too much time to assembly this but bags numbered from 1 to 3 are already here. Color vomit is also already here :)

As you can see it's very early stage of build. Nothing really new during building.

And here is worm gear replaced by 12t gear.

[1gor]

31 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

42070also uses portal axle hubs but has a 13L gear rack.

By my calculations 42082 has the same width as Unimog U400 - 23 studs; so it is logical that they have smaller gear rack ?

[Ngoc Nguyen]

OMG them greens! My eyes.... 

There is a saying that goes red and green should in most cases, except Christmas, never be placed next to each other  X_______x

http://uxmovement.com/content/why-you-should-never-pair-green-and-red-on-the-web/

And Ackermann steering is there!!

Edited July 15, 2018 by Ngoc Nguyen

[Jim]

2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

There is a saying that goes red and green should in most cases, except Christmas, never be placed next to each other  X_______x

Unless it's Christmas 

[Maaboo the Witch]

This looks like a really cool build! I like Olav's style and I think I'd enjoy this... if I had the 50ft display case @Ctan obviously had the foresight to make room for. 

[andythenorth]

Eh, it's been done to death, but those colours 

I *like* colour barf when it codes functions or breaks up blocks, or includes parts in unusual colours, or just makes it easier to build.

But colour barf doesn't have to be ugly.  This is ugly.  Looks like someone sicked up pizza.

Edited July 15, 2018 by andythenorth

[Maaboo the Witch]

Just now, andythenorth said:

Eh, it's been done to death, but those colours 

I *like* colour barf when it codes functions or breaks up blocks, or includes parts in unusual colours, or just makes it easier to build.

But colour barf doesn't have to be ugly.  This is ugly.  Looks like someone sicked up pizza.

This does explain the green beams and elements in 42080... oh wait, no it doesn't. 

[doug72]

Don't like the "Hook" I will use one of my METAL hooks, when I get the set.

[Ctan]

Just now, Maaboo35 said:

This looks like a really cool build! I like Olav's style and I think I'd enjoy this... if I had the 50ft display case @Ctan obviously had the foresight to make room for. 

Actually I don't have display case for this model. I bought it because it's new. I like opening bags with new parts and its sound :D

 I was forced to disassemble two other sets to put it on a shelf. 

I'm working as full-time artist painter and in my opinion color vomit is awful on this set. I care a lot about estethic looking.

I know that is a toy but even 14+ year old kid is grounded to age of my son (2 yo) with this set of colourful pieces. My eyes painfully hurt during assembly but I know that this stage of build will be very soon hidden under bodywork :)

 

 

 

[Ngoc Nguyen]

@Ctan Can you share some pictures that show the two gearboxes in the undercarriage? I'm particularly interested in the gear meshes that lead to the turntable.

I, like Ctan, also work on visual materials. Maybe that's why I feel the impact of color vomit more sharply.

Edited July 15, 2018 by Ngoc Nguyen

[Bartybum]

Is that reverse Ackermann geometry? Because it looks like reverse Ackermann geometry 

[Ctan]

Just now, Ngoc Nguyen said:

@Ctan Can you share some pictures that show the two gearboxes in the undercarriage? I'm particularly interested in the gear meshes that lead to the turntable.

I can take a pic later today when back home. It's nothing special - one switch is for turntable (left-right rotation) with lot of gear reduction, second is for inner axle (i think it will be for boom).