April 18, 20186 yr I love tractors - you've really captured the look of the real thing. Great to see tractor mocs. Must get mine posted.. never seem to have time! Love this moc though!
April 18, 20186 yr It looks really good, but what is with the wormgear in the back? That will loosen itself when you turn the wrong direction I would think... It needs bracing at both ends.
April 18, 20186 yr Just now, Jeroen Ottens said: It looks really good, but what is with the wormgear in the back? That will loosen itself when you turn the wrong direction I would think... It needs bracing at both ends. I think it needs a 5L with stop.
April 18, 20186 yr Yeah, that floating worm gear will not work. Even with an axle with stop, it will work itself off, or skip at the slightest provocation.
April 18, 20186 yr Great looking moc, very nice! but before putting all that effort into PDF instructions you may want to fix unavailable colours in the build. It might discourage people to build it. If you want I'll do it for you. I think my colour/part knowledge should be good enough to make it buidable for anyone.
April 18, 20186 yr Looks nice , specially yellow (original) version. Sadly we have no bigger spocket wheelsÂ
April 19, 20186 yr Author First of all, thank you for the input guys. @Jeroen Ottens, @Aventador2004, @Saberwing40k: That was the only way to put it because of the lack of space. I imagined that it will stay in place because there are not to many forces there to deal with. Now, I don't know how to brace it without changing anything significantly. Do you guys have any suggestions or ideas? @LvdH: Thank you for the offer, but I have already checked every color/part that I used manually on BrickLink and I put those into the LXF file. And there are no color errors on Rebrickable parts list. The renderings were done before all of that, so that's why it appears to be a few mistakes. There are a few rare colors though. But I'm interested to hear what did you have in mind? Any suggestions on the software for PDF instructions? I was planning on using Blueprint. Edited April 19, 20186 yr by pagicence
April 19, 20186 yr Rear wheel will not work.. 2 hours ago, pagicence said: First of all, thank you for the input guys. @Jeroen Ottens, @Aventador2004, @Saberwing40k: That was the only way to put it because of the lack of space. I imagined that it will stay in place because there are not to many forces there to deal with. Now, I don't know how to brace it without changing anything significantly. Do you guys have any suggestions or ideas? @LvdH: Thank you for the offer, but I have already checked every color/part that I used manually on BrickLink and I put those into the LXF file. And there are no color errors on Rebrickable parts list. The renderings were done before all of that, so that's why it appears to be a few mistakes. There are a few rare colors though. But I'm interested to hear what did you have in mind? Any suggestions on the software for PDF instructions? I was planning on using Blueprint. Hello, SR3Dbuilder and Lpub3D will make a perfect PDF instruction.
April 21, 20186 yr Author UPDATE 1 I managed to secure the white worm gear with little modifications, so that it will stay in place and it won't fall off. And now, it looks like this: Edited April 24, 20186 yr by pagicence
April 21, 20186 yr Isn't the angle of that U joint too sharp? I thought the max angle was 45 degrees.
April 21, 20186 yr  Wow this is amazing, looks awesome. Really hope it all works out, can't wait for the PDF.
April 21, 20186 yr 5 hours ago, LvdH said: Isn't the angle of that U joint too sharp? I thought the max angle was 45 degrees. The joint is fine, it might be a bit jerky though. Universal joints have a wide range of movement.
April 24, 20186 yr Author UPDATE 2 So, i have finally finished the PDF instruction! It took me a whole week. This is the FIRST and LAST time I've fiddled with instructions. Here is the link: Challenger MT800E building instructions Happy building! Edited April 24, 20186 yr by pagicence
April 25, 20186 yr Which software did you use to make the instructions? I kinda want to make some too in the future. I only have enough parts to make one set of wheels for your MOC, and I'm afraid you will have to work a bit more on this.  Putting that pin with pinhole into that rim, is VERY difficult (unless you're me), and so I would call this an illegal technique.  The red 2L axles that I've highlighted will fall out on their own, I replaced them with 1½L pins, however this is rather flimsy   The connection of the two parts with mickey mouse elements is very weak  The bevel gears do not mesh together properly, as the construction is far from sturdy enough. Furthermore, it is impossible to connect ½ a bevel with another in a straight line. Even with two ½ bevel gears it's still far from reliable  And even if it was sturdy enough and held together very well, it wouldn't matter anyway as the sprocket gear just slips on the threads  The only positive thing is that the thread is being held in place properly and doesn't fall off. It is rather jerky though, you will need a very solid drivetrain to drive these.  So yeah, I have not built any more, as I suspect you might want to fix this first, besides I only have enough parts for just one set of wheels. Good luck!
April 25, 20186 yr A really successful design. I see that you have solved the track system nicely. Welcome to the challenger club :)  Challenger MT 865C (1) by Michał Skorupka (Eric Trax), on Flickr  Challenger MT 865C caterpillars by Michał Skorupka (Eric Trax), on Flickr Edited April 25, 20186 yr by eric trax
April 25, 20186 yr Author @Carsten Svendsen: Thank you for trying. I used Blueprint, there is a description of it here: Well this sort of things happen when you can't test the things that you are building, when you only have LDD. I'm not planning of doing anything to it further, it was a hassle to build it in the first place. If anyone wants to improve it... be my guest. @eric trax: Have you read what Carsten wrote? Anyway I saw your Challenger 2 days ago on youtube and I've noticed that we've published our MOCs the same day. 2 different approaches, but yours actually works. Edited April 29, 20186 yr by pagicence
April 26, 20186 yr 19 hours ago, pagicence said: @eric trax: Have you read what Carsten wrote? Anyway I saw your Challenger 2 days ago on youtube and I've noticed that we've published our MOCs the same day. 2 different approaches, but yours actually works. @pagicence Of course I read. I mean, the idea is good. Technical problems can always be fixed. Such a charm of virtual building :)
April 29, 20186 yr @pagicence did you fix the bugs in the drivetrain like Carsten said? I have downloaded the instructions and started collecting the parts, think I have about 60% of them. But it would be a let down if it will not work when I build it.
April 29, 20186 yr Author @Dafgek81 No, I didn't. I haven't thought about how to fix them. It's clear that it needs more work. Even if I knew how to brace the gears (and I don't), I have no idea how to fix the track slippage on the bottom. My original thought was that it won't slip because of the weight of the whole model pressing on it. And if it isn't one thing then it's another. I'm just waiting for someone else to tell me that there is another thing to fix, and another, and another... This is as far as it goes regarding my abilities as a builder. I have no plans to improve or put any more work into this model. I'm sorry for the let down. You're better off with eric trax's model. Edited April 29, 20186 yr by pagicence
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