[WIP] New Supercar

[Pvdb]

What with a certain company ripping off my Koenigsegg One:1 and making a pretty bad job of it at that if you have seen some of their marketing photo's where the flex axles bend into strange shapes.  Also due to the fact that my own Lego version started to look a bit shabby when parked next to the more recent Ultimatum GTR V10, i decided to do a major upgrade, basically start over, but this time without trying so hard to replicate the real Koenigsegg, but rather with the aim of making a Koenigsegg based car that is designed more with the aim of making it look good in Lego Technic (we will see how that turns out!)

• I will be aiming to replicate the Koenigsegg suspension, slight tweaks to my previous rear suspension and a major improvement to the previous front suspension to make it stiffer.
• I am looking at a combination of my previous 3+R (fake) paddle shift gear box from the Koenigsegg, and the Ultimatum's improved 5+N+R.  I have already designed a compromise 4+N+R to fit under the 8 cylinder engine.  I just have to work out the shifter mechanism.
• The engine will be 1 stud lower than the previous Koenigsegg
• The doors MUST use the same mechanism as the previous Koenigsegg, but I am looking to change the method to actuate them.
• The roof needs to be at least 1 stud lower than previous (that was my main issue with the bodywork of the previous Koenigsegg when standing it next to the Ultimatum) and here I may move slightly away from the real Koengsegg design, I will see where it all takes me.
• Again it will be 1:10 scale or thereabouts as I am not yet that inspired to work at 1:8 as I like the challenge of less space to work with.

The back end is in progress, and while it looks similar to the previous Koenigsegg, virtually every part has been re-designed and I think significantly improved, so far, I am having fun.

 

 

[Didumos69]

Very nice! I like the idea of being guided by what can be achieved with LEGO Technic. I will be following this.

I never built your Koenigsegg One:1, so at the risk of labouring the obvious: Is there any longitudinal beam running through the entire length of the rear axle module? In other words, can you simply pull it apart length-wise, or is it somehow form-locked?

[Leonardo da Bricki]

I like the start you have made here! That suspension looks awesome!

[Pvdb]

It is all form-locked and a real pain to take apart, as is the new version, but that is the only way to make the chassis stiff.

[Didumos69]

3 minutes ago, Pvdb said:

It is all form-locked and a real pain to take apart, as is the new version, but that is the only way to make the chassis stiff.

Good to know! I agree it adds to stiffness and coherence.

[Pvdb]

15 minutes ago, Didumos69 said:

Good to know! I agree it adds to stiffness and coherence.

Maybe not quite as bomb proof as your rugged super car chassis    I will take a picture from the bottom in my next update.

[LvdH]

Great idea! I have a feeling the copy cats bother me way more than they bother you. I like the progress so far, I bet you can improve many areas with the new parts. By the way, I just started collecting parts your Ultimatum supercar .

[T Lego]

Very Nice! The suspsension looks great, but have you ever considered using this part for the central shock? It looks more realistic than a regular shockabsorber. I have seen it being used in a different technic Koenigsegg.

[technic_addict]

I built your previous version a long time ago but two things I remember which maybe could be approved upon.  The black spring for the triplex rear suspension would often come apart and the front suspension was way too soft.

I look forward to your progression!

[grum64]

I don’t know how you do it Paul but I’m very glad you do. I look forward to see this progress.

[Pvdb]

2 hours ago, T Lego said:

Very Nice! The suspsension looks great, but have you ever considered using this part for the central shock? It looks more realistic than a regular shockabsorber. I have seen it being used in a different technic Koenigsegg.

Hi, yes, it was my first option, and I might go back to it.  The only problem is that it only fits with the pipe attachments facing up, so doesn't look great, and they might also get in the way of the bodywork.  I will find out later.

 

2 hours ago, technic_addict said:

I built your previous version a long time ago but two things I remember which maybe could be approved upon.  The black spring for the triplex rear suspension would often come apart and the front suspension was way too soft.

I look forward to your progression!

Agree - the triplex spring occasionally came apart on mine, but only when lifting the car up from the ground.  It doesn't seem to happen with the new set up but of course remains a possibility 

The front suspension was too soft, but I left it as I liked the stance.  Back in the day I spent hours trying to make it stiffer.  I think I have a simple solution now.

[technic_addict]

6 minutes ago, Pvdb said:

Agree - the triplex spring occasionally came apart on mine, but only when lifting the car up from the ground.  It doesn't seem to happen with the new set up but of course remains a possibility 

The front suspension was too soft, but I left it as I liked the stance.  Back in the day I spent hours trying to make it stiffer.  I think I have a simple solution now.

Oh, I also had some issues with the paddle shifter not working. I think one side always gave me trouble and stopped working altogether.  May be worth looking at the Porsche design with the improvements the community did as that version is excellent.

[Pvdb]

27 minutes ago, technic_addict said:

Oh, I also had some issues with the paddle shifter not working. I think one side always gave me trouble and stopped working altogether.  May be worth looking at the Porsche design with the improvements the community did as that version is excellent.

The Porsche design at the steering wheel is much too big and clunky at this scale, but the variant from Didumos69 works really well and can be hidden away - however, it will require some thinking in terms of how to make the paddles work.

[Meatman]

Hopefully the gearbox works a little smoother in this one. I had some friction issues in Koenigsegg to the point where I gave up on it.

[Pvdb]

30 minutes ago, Meatman said:

Hopefully the gearbox works a little smoother in this one. I had some friction issues in Koenigsegg to the point where I gave up on it.

You must have done something wrong.  The actual gears in the koenigsegg hardly had any friction if put together properly ?

This gear box will probably have slightly more friction since there are more gears - but it is geared so that the wheels can easily drive the engine in first gear.  

Edited May 1, 2018 by Pvdb

[Pvdb]

A few updates on the MOC - after a failed attempt at making the gearbox, I have finally arrived at something that meets the objectives.

[BrickbyBrickTechnic]

Awesome! I can't wait to see how you plan on shifting that gearbox. Oh, and your engine looks really nice!

[AFOLegofan66]

I built your car and still have it in my collection. I consider it a collectible. Everything works on it like a charm. Looking forward to the new build!!

[Didumos69]

Nice progress! I like the engine and how deep it sits. It doesn't need bricks imo, just two orange beams running over it would suffice, but that's a matter of taste. Can't wait to see the gearbox work!

Edited May 8, 2018 by Didumos69

[Permo]

I'm always amazed how you people cram so many functions in such a small space...

 

When I have my new PC I'll probably install LDD on it, I think that is key to these designs.... will LDD run under Linux ?

[pagicence]

Is there any chance that you are building Koenigsegg Regera? Because I know that that is straight out Koenigsegg suspension system, although none of the Koenigsegg cars have twin exhaust pipes.

[Jeroen Ottens]

What gearbox did you implement? Is this the 4+N+R?

[Pvdb]

21 hours ago, Jeroen Ottens said:

What gearbox did you implement? Is this the 4+N+R?

Yes, it is a couple of studs shorter than the 5 speed version in the Ultimatum so sits better under the 8 cylinder engine.

23 hours ago, pagicence said:

Is there any chance that you are building Koenigsegg Regera? Because I know that that is straight out Koenigsegg suspension system, although none of the Koenigsegg cars have twin exhaust pipes.

No, but that would make quite a good model for a motorised model as it doesn't have a gearbox and has a pretty unique hybrid power train.  This model is loosely based on Koenigsegg cars but is not following exactly, hence I can implement things like the twin exhaust.

[Pvdb]

while I wait for the Bugatti to go down in price, I may as well continue my MOC.  I almost gave up when I saw the new gearbox parts!  They will be for next time.

[LvdH]

Looking great! I like the shaping of the front. One question, could you try to avoid the use of the rare parts used in your previous One:1? 14L soft axles and 1x4 thin orange liftarms for example.

Edited June 2, 2018 by LvdH