Doctor Who CMF Campaign

[Digger of Bricks]

4 minutes ago, Blondie-Wan said:

That, plus a so-called “CMF” series demands a largish number of figures (16 or more), often with new parts, to fill one of three slots a year, and a whole series of such figures from one theme (such as Doctor Who) means something else will have to wait, or not get such a series at all.

For Lego, I'm pretty sure the biggest advantage to BrickHeadz over CMFs are the parts, or should I say, the lack of need to introduce new parts. I certainly can appreciate that, and it does offer a little more of a building experience to the collector-minded customer, something I'm sure Lego would want to foster more of in their audiences. 

[Anonknee Muss]

Ghostbuster did well as an ideas set and got extra set. Doctor who clearly didn’t do well enough to get extra sets. Case closed. Can we close this thread already please?

[MAB]

9 hours ago, MicroJow said:

I wonder if Lego would consider a minifigure set of the Doctors - not a CMF series, but simply a full set - as a convention exclusive. Only available, say, at the San Diego Comic Con. They already have the figure designs... I wonder how expensive and difficult it would be for them to produce and target such a set to a place which, most likely, contains the highest density of WHO fans all in one place.

- MJ

I would imagine a Doctor Who convention or something like one of the London Comic Cons (or other names) would have a higher density of Doctor Who fans.

3 hours ago, J4ck said:

Ghostbuster did well as an ideas set and got extra set. Doctor who clearly didn’t do well enough to get extra sets. Case closed. Can we close this thread already please?

Apparently the HQ was being designed before they would have known about the sales of Ecto-1. I doubt they ever saw follow ups as feasible for the Doctor Who IDEAS set. They already did the Tardis.

[meepinater]

YES. heck, yes. we need this! so many whovies. is that blonde the new doctor? I haven't seen any of the new episodes, are they out? anyways... where was i? oh, yes. 

Oh yea! this is a great idea, has someone introduced it to tlc? maybe via lego ideas? it might get a fair amount of votes...

[Robert8]

19 minutes ago, meepinater said:

YES. heck, yes. we need this! so many whovies. is that blonde the new doctor? I haven't seen any of the new episodes, are they out? anyways... where was i? oh, yes. 

Oh yea! this is a great idea, has someone introduced it to tlc? maybe via lego ideas? it might get a fair amount of votes...

CMF series are banned from LEGO Ideas. 

Also, it's a license already done on Ideas.

[meepinater]

36 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

CMF series are banned from LEGO Ideas. 

Also, it's a license already done on Ideas.

oh. I didn't know that. what do you mean, a license already done? does that mean DW entries won't be accepted anymore?

[saysonder]

1 hour ago, meepinater said:

oh. I didn't know that. what do you mean, a license already done? does that mean DW entries won't be accepted anymore?

Yes. Any Lego Ideas set that is based off of a licensed property Lego has already done (Star Wars, Batman, Doctor Who, Sponebob, etc) cannot be considered or reviewed to be made into official sets. 

[nikhkin]

3 hours ago, meepinater said:

oh. I didn't know that. what do you mean, a license already done? does that mean DW entries won't be accepted anymore?

One of the rules for LEGO Ideas is that they will not accept any submissions from pre-existing licenses. This stops the system getting clogged up with something like Star Wars, in which a nice looking set would easily achieve 10,000 votes, and helps encourage people to submit new and different ideas. It also prevents situations like the Helicarrier, where LEGO was working on a set, someone submits it to Ideas, it gets rejected at 10,000 votes and people can claim LEGO stole the idea. 

[Anonknee Muss]

4 hours ago, Robert8 said:

CMF series are banned from LEGO Ideas. 

Also, it's a license already done on Ideas.

Lego won’t listen to a campaign. Why would they? Besides we have Lego ideas, Doctor Who has been done and dusted.

[MAB]

4 hours ago, saysonder said:

Yes. Any Lego Ideas set that is based off of a licensed property Lego has already done (Star Wars, Batman, Doctor Who, Sponebob, etc) cannot be considered or reviewed to be made into official sets. 

That is not quite right. Any property that entered through IDEAS is blocked forever, and any current themes are blocked while they are current. However, past themes that did not enter through IDEAS are allowed.

"If a licensed property no longer appears on our list, and it didn’t enter the LEGO portfolio via LEGO Ideas, you’re welcome to submit product ideas based on it then."

 

[Frostbricks]

2 hours ago, J4ck said:

Lego won’t listen to a campaign. Why would they? Besides we have Lego ideas, Doctor Who has been done and dusted. 

It's possible, just unlikely. They will have the sales data from the released sets (including Dimensions) And there's certainly a devoted fan base. There's an obvious reason they didn't produce more sets - what else would you make after the TARDIS? And it's worth saying that another toy company did do something similar with the Who license (blind figure bags) so there's a market, it's just is it a big enough one?

That doesn't mean that there's not 50 years worth of fans who would love to see their Doctor in Minifig form.

But, I'll admit, I'm just being hopeful 'cos we never got the Professor and Ace.

[Robert8]

2 hours ago, J4ck said:

Lego won’t listen to a campaign. Why would they? Besides we have Lego ideas

Exactly. If you want LEGO Ideas to make a set, then LEGO Ideas is the way. If they listen to this, then LEGO Ideas is kind of pointless (as @MAB said earlier in thread). Why would you bother posting a project there if you can start a campaign on Twitter?

[Whovastron]

23 hours ago, MAB said:

I would imagine a Doctor Who convention or something like one of the London Comic Cons (or other names) would have a higher density of Doctor Who fans.

Apparently the HQ was being designed before they would have known about the sales of Ecto-1. I doubt they ever saw follow ups as feasible for the Doctor Who IDEAS set. They already did the Tardis.

Well there have been many, many Doctor Who merchandise exclusives (including a limited boxset of 13 incarnations of the Doctor) that we’re exclusives to SDCC and sold out. There are many niche properties that have SDCC exclusives that sell out, and Doctor Who isn’t that niche. Now I’m not saying I agree that an idea like this would work or ever happen, BUT I do think MAB you underestimate how popular it is in America, it’s not such a worldwide thing, but it does have a considerably large US fanbase.

 

24 minutes ago, Frostbricks said:

It's possible, just unlikely. They will have the sales data from the released sets (including Dimensions) And there's certainly a devoted fan base. There's an obvious reason they didn't produce more sets - what else would you make after the TARDIS? And it's worth saying that another toy company did do something similar with the Who license (blind figure bags) so there's a market, it's just is it a big enough one?

That doesn't mean that there's not 50 years worth of fans who would love to see their Doctor in Minifig form.

But, I'll admit, I'm just being hopeful 'cos we never got the Professor and Ace.

The ther company also produced sets. They crashed and burned quickly, but that was more due to the quality and design than the property

 

i would love more Doctor Who stuff, I don’t think for a second this campaign idea would work. The only way we could get more stuff is if the Doctor is indeed in The Lego Movie 2 like was rumoured, even then it will likely just be a Minifigure. Or if Series 11 really explodes the popularity. I would expect a test of the waters with a Brickheadz maybe.

7 hours ago, meepinater said:

YES. heck, yes. we need this! so many whovies. is that blonde the new doctor? I haven't seen any of the new episodes, are they out? anyways... where was i? oh, yes. 

Oh yea! this is a great idea, has someone introduced it to tlc? maybe via lego ideas? it might get a fair amount of votes...

That’s the 13th Doctor yeah, the new series starts October time

[MAB]

44 minutes ago, Whovastron said:

Well there have been many, many Doctor Who merchandise exclusives (including a limited boxset of 13 incarnations of the Doctor) that we’re exclusives to SDCC and sold out. There are many niche properties that have SDCC exclusives that sell out, and Doctor Who isn’t that niche. Now I’m not saying I agree that an idea like this would work or ever happen, BUT I do think MAB you underestimate how popular it is in America, it’s not such a worldwide thing, but it does have a considerably large US fanbase.

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If they are only made as exclusives for SDCC or similar then I'd say the opposite - that the company making them know they are niche and won't sell well worldwide / outside of a comic con.

I know LEGO make exclusives (mainly SH and SW) for comic cons, and they sell well and are sought after and so on, but they have the difference that LEGO sells similar sets and minifigures outside of the comic con. Often the comic con versions are quite nerdy versions, with more general items from the license sold to the masses outside of the comic con. Selling out at a comic con doesn't tell you about likely sales outside of a comic con. Almost anything linked to a particular property will sell well if it is limited edition and sold over a short period of time to a confined bunch of geeks for that license.

[Whovastron]

11 minutes ago, MAB said:

If they are only made as exclusives for SDCC or similar then I'd say the opposite - that the company making them know they are niche and won't sell well worldwide / outside of a comic con.

I know LEGO make exclusives (mainly SH and SW) for comic cons, and they sell well and are sought after and so on, but they have the difference that LEGO sells similar sets and minifigures outside of the comic con. Often the comic con versions are quite nerdy versions, with more general items from the license sold to the masses outside of the comic con. Selling out at a comic con doesn't tell you about likely sales outside of a comic con. Almost anything linked to a particular property will sell well if it is limited edition and sold over a short period of time to a confined bunch of geeks for that license.

The exclusives I mentioned are part of a line that sells in both the U.K. and the US, but has had SDCC exclusives as part of it. Just like there being a Marvel Legends exclusive boxset or suchlike. I was just using the exclusives as an example as you said they’d be better off selling at a U.K. convention, it’s just not the case. They’d do just as well at SDCC.

I’m not saying Doctor Who is as popular as Star Wars or anything, but it isn’t anywhere as niche as you want it to be.

Edited June 27, 2018 by Whovastron

[MAB]

4 hours ago, Whovastron said:

I’m not saying Doctor Who is as popular as Star Wars or anything, but it isn’t anywhere as niche as you want it to be.

 

I don't really care how niche it is and don't want it to be anything, I just don't think it is that big a seller as some make out, especially the historical side of it. The blind bag Character Building Doctor Who figures sat on shelves for ages, and so did the 11 Doctor packs. In some places you can still pick them up for ~£20 for the 11 Doctors. I have no doubt they would sell better if they were LEGO, but I doubt they'd sell as well as other CMFs.

As to exclusives, yes I am sure anything that has an "exclusive" badge on will sell well at any comic con.

[meepinater]

10 hours ago, J4ck said:

Lego won’t listen to a campaign. Why would they? Besides we have Lego ideas, Doctor Who has been done and dusted.

it's also dusty. ;p