Terrasher Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 First pictures are disappointing. Front looks lazy and squished. Quote
Puresh Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) (deleted comment because I was wrong) Edited July 18, 2018 by Puresh Quote
Tariq j Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Looks as though the roof can come off, I’m interested too see if the ejector seat will be able to actually eject and what other gadgets are working. Quote
Puresh Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) (deleted comment because I was wrong) Edited July 18, 2018 by Puresh Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 I always think all cars replicated in Lego bricks have an inherent blockiness (Technics have a different word). It's really hard to do the source justice with all the curved lines, and even more difficult when the car was designed by Superleggera. There's a reason why the angular F40 set is spot on and the Beetle not so much. So I can understand the initial disappointment (all those horse heads jeez) but I think this will grow on a lot of people. Particularly when the features are revealed. Quote
KevinMD Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lucarex said: So I can understand the initial disappointment (all those horse heads jeez) but I think this will grow on a lot of people. Particularly when the features are revealed. That’s an interesting thought. The DB5 is definitely too curvy in the nose to be reliably reproduced in lego, but I don’t have a problem with the beetle or any of the other cars they’ve done. Hopefully the angle on the license is the least flattering (just like the Chiron) and the nose is minimized head on and profile. (edit- weird, it didn’t include the portion of your post I actually wanted to reference) Edited July 5, 2018 by KevinMD Quote
Friscorays Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Not as cool looking as I had thought it would be. Hopefully the gadgets will save it. Quote
Terrasher Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Good grief, comparing the real thing with what was leaked today, TLG really botched the front of the DB5. It's all wrong. The headlights and the curves, the grill, the silver part right in front of the bumper (don't know the name of that). Even the side wing mirrors look odd. Someone on reddit mentioned that the grill and the headlights make it look like the car is looking up, surprised or in horror. Completely agree with that. All the depth of the front of the DB5 is absolutely lost on this model. Looks rushed, as if TLG wanted to release something as quickly as they could with the 007 license that was supposed to be used for Dimensions. Quote
Whovastron Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Compared to the previous creator cars, this is really missing the mark. Especially on the front. wouldnt this licence serve better as a speed-Champions type set(or sets) with an Aston Martin and their respective Bonds? Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) @Terrasher Or...you could wait to see it from all angles and in detail before picking up the burning torch and pitchfork. There’s no rush, if they wanted to capitalise on the licence, TLG would wait until next spring to coincide with the release of Bond 25. Edited July 5, 2018 by Lucarex Quote
Whovastron Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lucarex said: @Terrasher Or...you could wait to see it from all angles and in detail before picking up the burning torch and pitchfork. There’s no rush, if they wanted to capitalise on the licence, TLG would wait until next spring to coincide with the release of Bond 25. I think @Terrasher‘s criticisms are fair. Why would seeing other angles change ones opinion on the front when it can clearly be seen? Quote
Terrasher Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lucarex said: @Terrasher Or...you could wait to see it from all angles and in detail before picking up the burning torch and pitchfork. Compare the Beetle and the Mini Cooper to this model and you will realize that the DB5 is a big step below the previous Creator Expert cars. Also, as @Whovastron has mentioned, we can already see the most important features of the DB5: the front and the sides. The rear won't redeem the whole set. What else is there to see? The interior and the gadgets? IMO, if the set looks ugly on the outside, it's hard to make up for it with other small features that are mostly hidden by the external cover. Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Horses for courses though isn’t it? The Mini left me cold, and the Beetle (albeit I liked the colour and surfboard) wasn’t exactly a faithful reproduction was it? If you squinted maybe. Even the London Bus looked a little off. It’s just near-impossible to capture the exact lines of a model like this. It would be the same with a 300SL Gullwing. There’s a reason why 50 years later the actual car still turns heads and drops jaws, even those who are ignorant/ambivalent to the Bond thing. “Good grief....botched...big step below previous Creator...worst ever D2C” etc. is a bit melodramatic IMO. Oh and the “silver thing in front of the bumper” is called the radiator Edited July 5, 2018 by Lucarex Quote
LegoFjotten Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Can we expect to see any of you improve on it then, @Terrasher or @Whovastron, if LEGO did such a poor job? Should be easy, no? I'm not in love with how it looks in that one photo either, but to be fair, the shapes of that car are not easy to replicate with LEGO. Further, compromises have most likely been made to include some gadgets, and without knowing what those are and seeing better photos I will not pass final judgement on the set. Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, LegoFjotten said: Can we expect to see any of you improve on it then, @Terrasher or @Whovastron, if LEGO did such a poor job? Should be easy, no? I'm not in love with how it looks in that one photo either, but to be fair, the shapes of that car are not easy to replicate with LEGO. Further, compromises have most likely been made to include some gadgets, and without knowing what those are and seeing better photos I will not pass final judgement on the set. I stopped short of saying that, just thought it And I'm glad I'm not the only one with this exact 'wait and see' approach. I guess there will be some people can't wait (and haven't!) to rip it apart regardless for whatever reason. Quote
ZO6 Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Seems like there should be plenty of room in the model to fit the mechanisms for pop-out guns, ejector seat, and other gadgets. It'll be interesting to see just how many functions they incorporate from Goldfinger: -Rotating license plates, smoke screen and oil slick seems unlikely (but maybe they would still have the rear lights flip up?), shredders that pop out of the hubcaps, fold down front grill to reveal machine guns, armor plate that rises to protect rear windshield, ejector seat. Quote
Terrasher Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lucarex said: Horses for courses though isn’t it? The Mini left me cold, and the Beetle (albeit I liked the colour and surfboard) wasn’t exactly a faithful reproduction was it? If you squinted maybe. I guess people have different tastes! Some like rectangles, some like curves. Crazy how that can happen. I'm criticizing this model because it's an unfaithful reproduction of the real DB5, which is a shame. The Cooper and the Beetle, meanwhile, are much better, but that's just my (and many other people's) opinion. Don't get mad if people dislike something you like. I don't have a problem with you liking something I find lots of inaccuracies in. Understand that some like things well done and accurate. 18 minutes ago, Lucarex said: I guess there will be some people can't wait (and haven't!) to rip it apart regardless for whatever reason. I guess there's no room for improvement in anything anymore. Oh no. @LegoFjotten If I had TLG designers' inventories, I'd give it a try! There's plenty that can be fixed! ----------------- Bickering aside (we've had enough off topic discussions here (Doctor Who))... I'm at least eager to see what gadgets are incorporated. If the front's ugly, there'd better be some nice Technic action within the set! Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 "Unfaithful reproduction...poorly done...lots of inaccuracies...ugly...plenty that can be fixed..." Don't sit on the fence now And all that from a quick glance at single low res image printed on a card. Quote
Terrasher Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Lucarex said: "Unfaithful reproduction...poorly done...lots of inaccuracies...ugly...plenty that can be fixed..." Don't sit on the fence now And all that from a quick glance at single low res image printed on a card. Boy, did I struck a nerve. This set means a lot to you doesn't it? And so does my opinion, for some reason... If you want to have a civil discussion, please PM me. ------------ Despite the disappointing first leak and probably not wanting to buy the set, I'll be looking forward to the official pictures. Edited July 5, 2018 by Terrasher Quote
Whovastron Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lucarex said: "Unfaithful reproduction...poorly done...lots of inaccuracies...ugly...plenty that can be fixed..." Don't sit on the fence now And all that from a quick glance at single low res image printed on a card. The picture is pretty good quality tbh, enough to see the model. It’s just peoples opinions guys. 1 hour ago, LegoFjotten said: Can we expect to see any of you improve on it then, @Terrasher or @Whovastron, if LEGO did such a poor job? Should be easy, no? The most lazy argument against criticism. People are allowed to not like something without having to know how to do it better. And anyhow I didn’t make any over the top comments about the build. the image is good enough quality to make a judgement. It’s perfectly fine that people like and love it, and people are equally allowed to dislike it. Quote
Lucarex Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Struck a nerve? Nah, just like a bit of debate/banter especially when the comments are a bit OTT . Means a lot to me? Again, nowhere near as much as you imagine. It’s just nice to have something a bit different, that wasn’t really anticipated. That said I love the car itself, so in brick form, I’m glad it exists. I don’t think there’s a Lego set out there that is perfect. I guess I just prefer to look past flaws (or compromises depending on how you view it) and appreciate the good bits for the most part. Edited July 5, 2018 by Lucarex Quote
Anonknee Muss Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Wah wah wah The model is decent, please stop being so ungrateful, thanks. PS isn’t that what Lego is all about, being creative? Don’t like? Change it. Or just deal with it, I don’t care, just stop the unnecessary winging. Quote
Johnny1360 Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 It doesn't look so bad to me, but what do I know. I can't wait to see more/better pictures though, hard to be judgemental from just that one. Would like to know piece count and price US dollars as well, maybe not a day one buy but I will have it. Quote
Digger of Bricks Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Lucarex said: There’s no rush, if they wanted to capitalise on the licence, TLG would wait until next spring to coincide with the release of Bond 25. To do what? More sets? Quote
Lucarex Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Digger of Bricks said: To do what? More sets? No. I don't think there's any other sets planned. What I meant was it wasn't rushed out at this time as the poster said. You could level that accusation if the new movie was about to premiere and TLG wanted to piggy-back on the media attention. But Bond 25 isn't out until May 2019 earliest, so that criticism doesn't make sense. Quote
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