Lego City 2019 - Rumours, Speculation and Discussion

[Maple]

Anyone want to guess how LEGO will make an 800 piece donut shop (it has to include a new helicopter and van for sure) and a 1055 rocket transport? 1000 pieces to make a rocket transport? It's bigger than the launch station!

[AusMinifig]

7 hours ago, Digger of Bricks said:

 

That set's name is lot more self-explainatory than 60230's (a.k.a. "spatial research and development"). 

Haha true, I’m still in disbelief that they would make a city shop with so many pieces and not vehicle driven..that’s a lot of donuts   Maybe it’s a stop off point for the Police? 

It will be a long wait until we see pics, I have forgotten when do things surface for summer release sets? 

Edit - added comment 

 

Edited December 22, 2018 by AusMinifig

[AOW]

1 hour ago, Maple said:

Anyone want to guess how LEGO will make an 800 piece donut shop (it has to include a new helicopter and van for sure) and a 1055 rocket transport? 1000 pieces to make a rocket transport? It's bigger than the launch station!

In case of transporter: airplane (Antonov 225 style) + Rocket (Saturn/Energy type) + escort/Loader system + minifigs = +/- 1000 parts .

Just look, biggest City plane was 7893 with 401 parts + space shuttle 3368 (231p.)now increase it by minifigs and some other accessories and you get +1000

Edited December 22, 2018 by AOW

[Klaus-Dieter]

Thank you very much for the list, @Falconfan1414!

Since again there doesn't seem to be a space station, I'm - apart from perhaps the Satellite Mission - not interested in the Space subtheme.

The Truck Of The Fire Brigade's Boss could be a nice addition to all the Fire sets.

It's great that there'll be some civilian sets in summer! The Fairground Minifig Pack sounds promising and will for sure be a great addition to the Creator Fairground series. Another shop / building is always welcome and so even the Donuts Store. Since it's called an opening, I hope that there'll be a TV broadcast van included. The Central Garage will for sure be good, too. The only question is: Will Central Garage be a car repair shop or a parking deck?

16 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Sadly there are no farm sets

I wouldn't give up my hopes already now. We talked about that a whole Farm subtheme is supposably unlikely, but a big farm set on its own not. And firstly set number 60238 is still missing. And secondly I can't imagine this list being the complete one since in the past years there always have been two subthemes plus some extra sets in summer. SInce the Space subthemes will be very huge, I bet for a small subtheme with 4-5 sets in summer.

1 hour ago, Maple said:

Anyone want to guess how LEGO will make an 800 piece donut shop (it has to include a new helicopter and van for sure) and a 1055 rocket transport? 1000 pieces to make a rocket transport? It's bigger than the launch station!

I asked that myself, too. But only pics or at least a detailed description of the sets will let us know.

Just now, AusMinifig said:

It will be a long wait until we see pics, I have forgotten when do things surface for summer release sets?

Since Lego won its action against the Asian clone brands, let's hope that TLG will at the Nuremberg Toy Fair (January, 30th til February, 3rd) not be that restrective like they were this year and that the first pics will show up at that time.

[TeriXeri]

I wonder if the 60224 - mission for satellite maintenance - 84 pieces is a Starter Pack (each exploration theme had one so far). But could be a 4+ or regular set too (2 minifig max), if 2019 is any indication that starter packs seem gone within City.

 

Edited December 22, 2018 by TeriXeri

[AOW]

Back in the 1995 we had this:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6544-1#T=S&O={"iconly":0}

Now take that set to the current level and younger +1000

[Digger of Bricks]

I wonder if this latest Space subtheme will retain the realism of the previous two Spaceport subthemes, or if they'll give it a little more of a Sci-Fi edge as was done with the last Arctic subtheme. I'd preferably hope to see some astronauts with a slightly more futuristic design, yet still retaining some vestiges of realism, kinda like The Martian:

[Maple]

2 hours ago, AOW said:

In case of transporter: airplane (Antonov 225 style) + Rocket (Saturn/Energy type) + escort/Loader system + minifigs = +/- 1000 parts .

Just look, biggest City plane was 7893 with 401 parts + space shuttle 3368 (231p.)now increase it by minifigs and some other accessories and you get +1000

400 pieces for minifigures and some accessories? 

I'm guessing it will be a rocket on a plane (or even a helicopter carrying it) and the donut shop will have a news helicopter and a van, and a police car and motorcycle for 'traffic control', like the museum set with cop cars and such from years ago. Still these seem like very large sets. Larger than the launch pad is shocking. Like the wave has too many large $100+ sets. I wish the lunar base has 800-1000 pieces and not a donut shop. 400 piece lunar base will be very disappointing most likely.

LEGO loves space shuttles which is interesting. Clearly they wouldn't be making a bunch of them across now four themes (I'm including Overwatch) if they weren't selling. Yet the target range has never seen one fly, it will be 8.5 years since the last shuttle mission when these sets come out.

Edited December 22, 2018 by Maple

[Digger of Bricks]

Just now, Maple said:

LEGO loves space shuttles which is interesting. Clearly they wouldn't be making a bunch of them across now four themes (I'm including Overwatch) if they weren't selling. Yet the target range has never seen one fly, it will be 8.5 years since the last shuttle mission when these sets come out.

I hope to someday see a space shuttle from the City theme that's evocative of the LL924/LL928. 

[Maple]

That will never, ever, EVER happen.
A baseplate in a City set?! HAVE YOU GONE MAD!!!?! 

[scottwb2010]

2 hours ago, AusMinifig said:

Haha true, I’m still in disbelief that they would make a city shop with so many pieces and not vehicle driven..that’s a lot of donuts   Maybe it’s a stop off point for the Police? 

It will be a long wait until we see pics, I have forgotten when do things surface for summer release sets? 

Edit - added comment 

 

Maybe there will be a police vehicle and 1 or 2 police minifigs included. 

[Digger of Bricks]

Just now, Maple said:

That will never, ever, EVER happen.
A baseplate in a City set?! HAVE YOU GONE MAD!!!?! 

Heh, the baseplate isn't of that much importance to me compared to the shuttle. Preferably, I'd at least wish to see a near-futuristic space shuttle with a footprint and color scheme evocative of the good ol' LL928, with some small triangular porthole windows in Trans-Yellow in lieu a full canopy and a Sand Blue paint job which fuses the Light Bluish Grey and Bright Blue of the original. 

[Roebuck]

19 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Thanks for the info @Falconfan1414

Sadly there are no farm sets

That was a bummer, never been into the space themes And since I have not bought the fairground sets, that was not a hit eigther (will probably buy it) and small chances for a new animal unlsess they finaly give us some pigeons 

The forcast for animals this year is indeed cloudy and foggy, hopefully we get some surprising sun inbetween the bad weather 

[Maple]

Just now, Digger of Bricks said:

Heh, the baseplate isn't of that much importance to me compared to the shuttle. Preferably, I'd at least wish to see a near-futuristic space shuttle with a footprint and color scheme evocative of the good ol' LL928, with some small triangular porthole windows in Trans-Yellow in lieu a full canopy and a Sand Blue paint job which fuses the Light Bluish Grey and Bright Blue of the original. 

That is a super specific want from a set.  I just want the lunar base not to be as sad as I'm expecting it to be. I'm thinking it will be like Jungle Mobile Lab 60160, just recolored and such.

Roebuck, fairs have animals. I'm picturing a pig, maybe a new lamb piece, or the return of the goat. 

[Robert8]

3 minutes ago, Roebuck said:

That was a bummer, never been into the space themes And since I have not bought the fairground sets, that was not a hit eigther (will probably buy it) and small chances for a new animal unlsess they finaly give us some pigeons 

The forcast for animals this year is indeed cloudy and foggy, hopefully we get some surprising sun inbetween the bad weather 

I think Series 19 is our best bet now. It could be like Series 16 or 17, which had 2 new molds each

[Digger of Bricks]

Just now, Maple said:

That is a super specific want from a set.  

It's sort of a hybrid of official space shuttle proposal concepts from NASA and Lego's Classic Space. 

[icm]

1 hour ago, Maple said:

LEGO loves space shuttles which is interesting. Clearly they wouldn't be making a bunch of them across now four themes (I'm including Overwatch) if they weren't selling. Yet the target range has never seen one fly, it will be 8.5 years since the last shuttle mission when these sets come out.

That's the appeal of great aviation designs!  Few kids have ever seen a WWI or WWII warbird fly, and only the older generation of AFOLs are old enough right now to remember the Apollo missions, but all of those still attract kids.  Plus, the Space Shuttle is a lot better-suited to Lego and Lego play than any other crewed spacecraft, since it looks like an airplane and it's got this nice fun cargo bay.  I bet Lego won't stop making space shuttles until we finally get somebody back to the Moon or the company goes under, whichever comes first.

Four themes, let's see - in 2019 there's the big and little Overwatch shuttles, the midi-scale Creator shuttle, and the rumored City shuttle.  What's the fourth one?  I can think of the Batman shuttle, the mini-scale Ideas shuttle, and the basic shuttle from a Classic box of bricks, but those are 2018, 2017, and 2018 kits.

[Maple]

40 minutes ago, icm said:

Four themes, let's see - in 2019 there's the big and little Overwatch shuttles, the midi-scale Creator shuttle, and the rumored City shuttle.  What's the fourth one?  I can think of the Batman shuttle, the mini-scale Ideas shuttle, and the basic shuttle from a Classic box of bricks, but those are 2018, 2017, and 2018 kits.

I like the shuttle but they are super popular, we get at least one a year. And yes the forth I was counting was the BatShuttle as it's still on the shelf and very much a shuttle. So technically there are four themes, but many more sets. The Creator minifigure scale shuttle from 2017 I think, The Creator miniscale shuttle in 2019, Batshuttle from 2018, City 2019 Shuttle and Overwatch Shuttle thing.

And what will replace the shuttle short term is a rocket, which like you said, is NOT as fun as a shuttle with wings and a cargo bay.

Edited December 22, 2018 by Maple

[AOW]

2 hours ago, Maple said:

400 pieces for minifigures and some accessories? 
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Well yes - what I had in mind was the fact that with minifigs there are accessories like helmets, air tanks... And by accessories I actually meant, other vehicles, buildings etc... You add them all and you get that 1000 parts.

Note that recently TLG is like "cheating" on parts count, best examples are both fire station 60004 and 60110 . Older one had 731 newer 887... I have both, and really like both but I always ask myself where that difference is ....

[Tmanderson]

2 hours ago, AOW said:

Note that recently TLG is like "cheating" on parts count, best examples are both fire station 60004 and 60110 . Older one had 731 newer 887... I have both, and really like both but I always ask myself where that difference is ....

I’ve noticed recently that the meaning of piece count has changed.  LEGO now produces more smaller more detailed parts.  That allows for more detailed builds, but 100 pieces today looks like less “stuff”.

The original x-wing 7142 had 267 pieces,  the latest 75218 has 731 pieces.  I’m not 100% sure the are the same size (my 7142 was broken down long ago) but they are both minifig scale.

And the speed champion sets won’t be possible without the new smaller slopes and curved pieces.

A $40 set today looks so much smaller but LEGO has to make about 400 pieces either way.  I like the new building style with more detail but some might like the old school simpler style.

 

[GrandDukeofKumquats]

Interesting. With this new space theme, I really hope they go all-out, and the space station sounds promising. The fairground people pack sounds really cool as well. I hope they include the cotton candy piece, and maybe that new bird mould from the Jasmine castle set.

 

[Aanchir]

Interesting that Space is apparently serving as the main science/research/exploration subtheme for this summer, rather than secondary to it like the smaller Space wave in 2015 was to the larger Deep Sea Explorers wave that year. On my spreadsheet I had grouped previous Space waves in the broader Flight category together with Airport and Cargo because that was it seemed more analogous to in terms of number and style of sets (as well as them only appearing in years with no other Airport or Cargo themed sets).

[Digger of Bricks]

12 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

Interesting that Space is apparently serving as the main science/research/exploration subtheme for this summer, rather than secondary to it like the smaller Space wave in 2015 was to the larger Deep Sea Explorers wave that year.

Unless there's another upcoming subtheme of sets we haven't heard of yet, yeah, that is a most interesting observation...   ...so perhaps that Lunar Space Station isn't just a mere anomaly amongst an otherwise typical Spaceport line. 

[Vindicare]

17 hours ago, Maple said:

Anyone want to guess how LEGO will make an 800 piece donut shop (it has to include a new helicopter and van for sure) and a 1055 rocket transport? 1000 pieces to make a rocket transport? It's bigger than the launch station!

I was just thinking about the donut shop. Looking at this year’s hospital, which has 861 pieces. Obviously a donut shop won’t be three stories, but it could be a fairly substantial building even if it does include a vehicle of some sort. 

[danimarroquin]

really wish that they could do a special retailer consumer set with the 747 caring the space shuttle . that would be iconic set !

Also a concorde set would be amazing .