1gor Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 33 minutes ago, Jim said: I have changed the permissions. Albums were private. That probably caused the issue. Now it works. Thank you very much Quote
TeamThrifty Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 The worm gear used to move the counter weight, (and the mast in the fork lift), i've not seen them before. I've only got the 2L, smaller diameter ones. I presume they're not a new piece, but are they not used very often? I've bought myself 5 now i know they exist... Quote
1gor Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, TeamThrifty said: The worm gear used to move the counter weight, (and the mast in the fork lift), i've not seen them before. I've only got the 2L, smaller diameter ones. I presume they're not a new piece, but are they not used very often? I've bought myself 5 now i know they exist... They were first introduced in 42061 set - telehandler from 2017 (if I'm not mistaken) https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=42061-1 Quote
HerrK Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 Great review, Jim. I do share the passion. As for the counterweight: Guessing it´s true that it is intended to provide space for computers and batteries (thinking of the fan wheels there, although they don´t rotate freely) and, as it´s an autonomous vehicle, i suppose it is equipped with sensors that indicate different weights of different loads that still fill up the bucket the same way. And in that case the movable counterweight will improve the performance, no? Anyways... did it spot the designer of the Bugatti on that picture shown in the second clip..? ;-) Stefan from SiP Quote
TeamThrifty Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, I_Igor said: They were first introduced in 42061 set - telehandler from 2017 Ahh, i've only missed them for a year then.. could be worse! So many parts, technic is a deep pool in which we swim! Quote
1gor Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 7 hours ago, TeamThrifty said: Ahh, i've only missed them for a year then.. could be worse! So many parts, technic is a deep pool in which we swim! ...and very diverse there are (unfortunately more important) other things in life...so it could be worse Quote
1gor Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Anyway building instructions are available both for A model https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/search#?search&text=42081%20Volvo%20Concept%20Wheel%20Loader%20ZEUX%20Technic And for B model... Quote
1gor Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Just have found out that @RonnyN has posted all instructions links except for Chiron in this post ...so ignore my previous post Quote
grum64 Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Thank you Jim for more excellent reviews. I'd only got the 42082 on my 'to buy' list but you've convinced me to add the 42081. One thing though. Your photos are outstanding but please just once can one be out of focus, badly framed or have other such defects. Your're making my already bad pictures look as if they were taken by a 2yr old with their first toy camera . Edited August 3, 2018 by grum64 Quote
grum64 Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jim said: LoL I will do my best next time Thank you Quote
Great Ball Pit Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Cool set, and nice review. I really like the huge bucket piece. As autonomous vehicles are becoming more commonplace I think it's great that Lego has taken the initiative to get some sets out there representing what's to come in the future. Having said that, it would be nice to see some Technic space vehicles. Quote
gate Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 It may seem reasonable comparing this one with 42030 at first, but they cannot be compared. 42030 has tons of electrics, while 42081 is great donor almost without useless parts at surprising (for me) price. Just bought one and it's great! Couldn't agree more with the review. Quote
M_longer Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 I have build this little thingy and I am dissappointed (a bit, but...) It does look fresh and fancy, but offers very little as for large Technic set. Three large linear actuators driven directly by knobs and four wheel steering could be presented in more appealing way (driving rings and such). But it delivers quite nice pack of parts, and have great potential for modding. I'd give it 6/10. Quote
gate Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 By the way, has anyone made a bucket wheel excavator (or something) using big buckets? That would look cool. Quote
Bartybum Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/7/2018 at 5:47 PM, gate said: By the way, has anyone made a bucket wheel excavator (or something) using big buckets? Oh lord that would be HUGE Quote
Magical Duck Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 1:55 PM, Maaboo35 said: Like 42070? Or 42069... Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, Magical Duck said: Or 42069... I concede. Quote
paul_delahaye Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 So I've just finished building this set. I picked it up from Argos in the UK this weekend with a 3rd off the price, which is always good. Yes it's a great parts pack. but I'm a little dissappointed. I found the build a little uninspiring, I'm not sure if this is because it does not represent a real live vehicle, or that the mechanicals are quite straight forward? I personally would have liked to see a few of the functions linked, like the counter balance weight, I feel could have gone down as the bucket raised up rather than having to control them all seperarely. As others have said, no gearboxes, no working engine (fake electric propulsion but still could have had drive to the axles). No suspension. And I don't really see the benifit of the model bending in half which increased ground clearance, it does it but I don't see why it needs to? Yes cool to have something different? but I think there would have been another model in the volvo range they could have made. I actually think I like some of the other prototypes on the back pages of the instrutions more. Quote
Carefree_Dude Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 how is this set compared to the original volvo loader 42030? Quote
Yevhen Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 4:24 PM, Jim said: REVIEW - 42081 - VOLVO CONCEPT WHEEL LOADER ZEUX INTRODUCTION Cranes, forklifts, cars....can we please get something different for crying out loud?! Well....here it is, something different. Of course, one can argue that this is yet another a front loader, and technically they might be right. But it is a unique in a way. Volvo and TLG make the most of their ongoing collaboration and present us the ZEUX, an Autonomous Concept Wheel Loader. An autonomous car (also known as a driverless car, self-driving car, and robotic car) is a vehicle that is capable of sensing its environment and navigating without human input (source wikipedia). This boils down to the front loader being capable of navigating without human input, therefore lacking the cabin. In order to perfectly sense the environment, it uses a drone sidekick! Some people think this thing is as ugly as....an autonomous concept wheel loader, but I will tell you straight away I absolutely love it. I love the concept, I love the looks and I love the fact that TLG and Volvo actually made a Technic set for this vehicle. And that's that for an objective review. Of course, I will try to be objective in my review, but I won't hide the fact that I am very enthusiastic about this model. Let's deploy the drone and....grab a beer, since this thing will be driving itself. If you see this icon, you can click the image on the left or right side of the image, to cycle through alternative images. PICTURES Pictures can be clicked to view hi-res versions. More pictures can be found in my Flickr album. DISCLAIMER This set has been provided by the CEE Team of TLG. It's not my goal to promote this set. It's my goal to give you an honest opinion about it. Therefore, the opinion in this review is my own and is in no way linked to TLG. SET INFORMATION Number: 42081 Title: Volvo Concept Wheel Loader ZEUX Theme: Technic Released: 2018 Part Count: 1.167 Box Weight: 2,33 kg Box Dimensions: 57,5 cm x 37,0 cm x 11,1 cm Set Price (MSRP): £ 109.99 / $ 139.99 / € 119,99 Price per Part: £ 0.09 / $ 0.12 / € 0,10 Links: Brickset, Bricklink THE BOX The front shows the model with its flying sidekick. The background shows a pile of sand and behind that a skyline with scryscrapers. Apparently, this vehicle is not only meant to be used in remote mining facilities, but also in urban areas. The bottom right tells us the vehicle measures 59 cm in length. If you don't own the 42030 - Volvo L350F Wheel Loader, but you do want the big bucket, now's your chance. You will get four nice big Claas tires with it, in case you missed those. So, this set might be interesting enough for the unique parts alone. BACKSIDE The back is divided in two sections, a top section for the main model and a bottom section for the B-model, another Volvo Concept, called the PEGAX. Needles to say, I am more enthusiastic about this alternate model, than the one for the Rough Terrain Crane. I actually quite like this one, but more on that later. CONTENTS OF THE BOX This box contains: 1x Sealed pack with booklet and sticker sheet 4x Tires 1x Big bucket 1x Bag with rims, actuators and gear rack housing 9x Unnumbered bag BUCKET AND TIRES I didn't think to see another set with the big bucket, but here it is. And four Claas tires, which are turning into a common presence in my collection. I absolutely love these bad boys and I sure hope TLG will some day release a smaller version as well. RIMS AND ACTUATORS A bag containing four rims, two linear actuators and a gear rack housing. BAGS A total of nine numbered bags. HIGHLIGHTED PARTS I was about to show the pictures of the bucket and rim again here, but that's rather useless, since I already posted them in the content section. Other than those parts, there aren't any new or interesting parts. I can hightlight the propellors, but that's about it. 7 BLADE PROPELLOR This propellor in flat silver isn't very rare, but you don't see it every day either. Comes in seven other sets. PART LIST Two pages showing the 1.167 parts. THE BUILD We start by building the front of the chassis. An interesting technique is used near the gear rack. The white part behind the 12T Gear is not a 1L connector. It's actually a 2L Liftarm with Pin and Axle. It rotates between two 5L thin liftarms. I could be mistaken, but it's probably just for proper alignment of the front and rear wheels. Here's a better view of the 2L Liftarm. I should have taken a better picture. REAR The rear wheels are connected to this assembly. Both the front and rear wheels don't implement shock absorbers or any other form of suspension. When you operate the final model, you are inclined to push it down to test the suspension. Unfortunately, to no avail. I reckon autonomous vehicles don't need suspension BOOM This is the boom which will connect to the bucket. Operated manually via a Linear Actuator. Usually manual operation and LA's don't combine very well, because it makes operating the functions very cumbersome. I wonder if this is the case for this vehicle as well. And the boom connected to the chassis. This is actually turning into some sort of vehicle. Feels more like an excavator than a front loader, but that will probably change in a bit. Next we are going to build the.....the.....uhmmm......what is it that we are building here?! It does seem to be sliding out. Ahhh here it is, the....uhmm.....the.....counterweight I presume. This entire big block can slide out to compensate for the weight of a filled bucket. T = F x L comes to mind. Looking at the left image, you see three (six, if you count the other side as well) panels with stickers, red and green lights and "chromed" grills. A couple of steps further down the road you will cover them with other panels (image on the right) and you will never see those decorated elements again. Is this a way to sneak in some parts for the B-model, which uses these panels in a more prominent way. Either way, I was hoping to be able to see these panels in the A-model as well. Ohh wait, you actually can see the panels inside this big paper weight At the rear you can see the 12T Gear, which is not the Hand of God steering, but it is used to move the weight back and forth. The rear is almost done now. We only need to add the antenna and the drone. I am not sure why the drone is positioned like it is, because it is not able to fly off by itself. The antenna is blocking one of the four propellors. I'd say, move it a couple of studs to the front. After adding some panels, the wheels and the bucket to the boom, the Zeux is finished. I enjoyed building this vehicle. It's not that different from a regular Front Loader, but it does have some unique elements. The usual leftover parts. COMPLETED MODEL Of course, it is a matter of personal taste, but in my opinion this vehicle looks awesome! I love the Tech-look with the black and yellow color scheme. I also love the orange accents to highlight important and/or moving parts, like railings, footsteps, etc. And I also love that TLG (and Volvo) went all out and said....let's do this! This collaboration is proving to be very fruitful. Here is video with some background information on how this project started. A cool fact is that kids actually helped shape this model and made some design decisions. The boom has been properly finished with panels at the right place. Feels solid. Operating the functions manually works better than expected. They are actually quite responsive. Here's the list of implemented functions: Four wheel steering Raising/lowering the bucket Raising/lowering the boom Raising/lowering the chassis Extending/retracting the counter weight The three raising/lowering functions are operated by turning the 12T gears, all located near the front wheel. An interesting fact is that the antenna at the back is actually an eye. You would think it is used to look at the environment, but it's primary function is to interact with people walking near the vehicle. By looking at the eye you can see that the vehicle has seen you. The following video gives you some insights: The back looks even more "Techy" than the front, with the drone and the antenna. Click on the image to raise and lower the chassis. Granted, the looks of this vehicle are relying heavily on the applied stickers. It will probably still look cool without them, but you would lose lot of the details. The front loader in attack mode. Ready to strike There has been some debate about the reason to raise and lower the chassis. At first I agreed that ground clearance was a logical reason, but the axles are still near the ground, so that doesn't make sense. Therefore, I think it has to do with transporting the vehicle. If you put this on a truck it will be quite high. Lowering the chassis will solve this issue. And it can be used to change the angle of the boom without moving it. Not sure if this is an actual purpose, but maybe it doesn't cost as much power, since the arm is longer. Just guessing here. And a final image from the left rear of the vehicle. B-MODEL I haven't been able to build the B-model, so I have no idea how the build is. However, by looking at the picture I have a pretty good idea. It is an odd looking vehicle, but at least we get to see the six grey panels Again, one can discuss the looks. It's not the best looking vehicle I have ever seen, but for an autonomous vehicle, it does what it does, haul a payload. I am not entire sure why this vehicle needs to adjust its ride height. Maybe to prevent from the load falling out of the bed. Anyway, I will most likely get a second copy of this set and build this PEGAX hauler. For me, it's two thumbs up for this alternate model. SUMMARY At the beginning of the review I mentioned that I was very fond of this model. Well, that didn't change upon completing the build. I like everything about it. And I find it particularly interesting, and audacious, that TLG and Volvo actually went ahead with this project. This proves that two major brands working together can accomplish great things. I do understand that not everybody will like this model, but if you are remotely interested in robotics and autonomous vehicles, this should appeal to you. Then there is the discussion about manually operating the functions on an autonomous vehicle. Some claim that it should have been full RC. But if you think about it a big longer....an autonomous vehicle being remotely controlled?! That doesn't make sense either. The perfect solution would be to integrate Mindstorms, but that's not feasible for a retail set. It will even be challenge to add the functionality, even for the avid Mindstorms builder. There's simply not enough room in the chassis to place all the motors and sensors. All things considered, I am very happy with these manual functions, and the way they operate, even with Linear Actuators. Not sure whether this is considered a Pro or a Con, but it is worth mentioning that this set doesn't have numbered bags. Both previous Volvo models didn't have numbered bags either. Makes you think that Volvo has something to do with this. For those of you wondering...the MACK did have numbered bags PROS Unique vehicle Cool design and color scheme Another chance to get the big bucket (and big Claas tires) Manual functions work properly CONS Lots of stickers No intricate gearbox. Functions are directly connected to the LA's. Oddly placed drone (is this even a Con?!) SCORE How do I rate this set? 9 DESIGN I know this is highly subjective, but I love the looks of this vehicle. 8 BUILDING EXPERIENCE Enjoyed the build, but there is no intricate gearbox. 8 FEATURES Enough features to keep it interesting. 8 PLAYABILITY For manually operated LA driven functions, they are surprisingly responsive. 8 PARTS Depends on your needs, but another chance to get the big bucket, in case you missed the Volvo L350F. 8 VALUE FOR MONEY Price per part is not particularly low, but you do get a big bucket and four Claas tires. 8,2 I'M LOVING IT FINAL WORDS One last thing to mention is this page at the end of the instruction manual. It contains some of the prototype (I presume) vehicles which have been created during the design process. 8 points for features and 8 points for playability?! It has 5 functions (including steering) and 2 of them are absolutely useless (contrweight and suspension). Also it takes too much time to control the bucket. This set is an epic fail in all aspects! Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 @Yevhen Please quote only the part that you are referring to, instead of quoting the whole post... Quote
Yevhen Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: @Yevhen Please quote only the part that you are referring to, instead of quoting the whole post... 3 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: @Yevhen Please quote only the part that you are referring to, instead of quoting the whole post... It's difficult to edit comments on a mobile device. Quote
Aventador2004 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Yevhen said: It's difficult to edit comments on a mobile device. Select the part you want, click quote, and post after. Quote
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