Technic 2019 Set Discussion

1gor · May 7, 2019

Yes that would be very useful and not just interesting, but we have to wait few months for final proof...

dimaks13 · May 7, 2019

4 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

Yes that would be very useful and not just interesting, but we have to wait few months for final proof...

Or rather few weeks.

1gor · May 7, 2019

8 minutes ago, dimaks13 said:

Or rather few weeks.

With all that measures that LEGO company has undertake so far; and with Liebherr delay I suppose that in end of July we will be sure what tire both 42099 and 42110 set use (off course 42110 is much smaller in terms of tire size)...but I hope that your feeling us right and in a few weeks we will know

Maaboo the Witch · May 7, 2019

9 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

With all that measures that LEGO company has undertake so far; and with Liebherr delay I suppose that in end of July we will be sure what tire both 42099 and 42110 set use (off course 42110 is much smaller in terms of tire size)...but I hope that your feeling us right and in a few weeks we will know

Mate, you're obsessed! *huh*

Anyway, 42097 is going to have the new XL LAs! Party down to this new info courtesy of our very own @Ngoc Nguyen! :moar:

Edited May 7, 2019 by Maaboo35

dimaks13 · May 7, 2019

24 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

With all that measures that LEGO company has undertake so far; and with Liebherr delay I suppose that in end of July we will be sure what tire both 42099 and 42110 set use (off course 42110 is much smaller in terms of tire size)...but I hope that your feeling us right and in a few weeks we will know

There's a new official catalog in June tho. :shrug_confused:

Edited May 7, 2019 by dimaks13

1gor · May 7, 2019

13 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said:

Mate, you're obsessed!

Anyway, 42097 is going to have the new XL LAs! Party down to this new info courtesy of our very own @Ngoc Nguyen!

I'm just trying to think about future because it is always cheaper to produce several tires with same treads than just one...

Just now, dimaks13 said:

There's a new official catalog in June tho.

Here where I live it will be in November :laugh:

Jurss · May 8, 2019

9 hours ago, dimaks13 said:

There's a new official catalog in June tho.

It's not a problem to put Liebherr or anything else in catalogue already in june, as they need to solve software problems.

dimaks13 · May 8, 2019

4 minutes ago, Jurss said:

It's not a problem to put Liebherr or anything else in catalogue already in june, as they need to solve software problems.

That's what I'm talking about.

Mestari · May 8, 2019

On 4/26/2019 at 1:51 PM, Zerobricks said:

That means we can support a total weight of 4kg at one stud suspension travel.

if the model weighs around 1 kilogram, we can calculate that we can expect around 4 studs of suspension travel from each wheel.

Can you elaborate on that?

Why would 4kg model have 1 stud suspension travel and 1kg would have more?

1gor · May 8, 2019

1 hour ago, Mestari said:

Can you elaborate on that?

Why would 4kg model have 1 stud suspension travel and 1kg would have more?

Suspension is more compressed by heavier vehicle than with lighter vehicle...

Jurss · May 8, 2019

6 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

Suspension is more compressed by heavier vehicle than with lighter vehicle...

What if if tell You, that You can create suspension with one stud travel, that won't be compressed under 4 kg, or one stud travel suspension, that will be compressed under 1kg? Possible suspension travel is not connected to vehicle weight.

konryd · May 8, 2019

9 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

Suspension is more compressed by heavier vehicle than with lighter vehicle...

The way I read the question, it was about why 1 stud specifically. It would seem this should depend on some combination of the unsprung weight and the force&count of the springs.

Edited May 8, 2019 by konryd

Zerobricks · May 8, 2019

1 hour ago, Mestari said:

Can you elaborate on that?

Why would 4kg model have 1 stud suspension travel and 1kg would have more?

I am talking about what 8 springs can support, either of these combinations or something in between. For example Chiron uses also 8 springs, to support some 3,5kg with 1 stud of suspension travel.

1gor · May 8, 2019

1 hour ago, Jurss said:

What if if tell You, that You can create suspension with one stud travel, that won't be compressed under 4 kg, or one stud travel suspension, that will be compressed under 1kg? Possible suspension travel is not connected to vehicle weight.

depending upon how many shocks you use and whether you use hard or soft spring (if we ignore type of suspension since it is about 4 x 4 rock crawler)

dimaks13 · May 8, 2019

Other August theme already has official pics, so perhaps Technic ones are coming soon.

Cumulonimbus · May 22, 2019

The German Promobricks site has photo's and information about the new Control+ components: (link):

Edited May 22, 2019 by Cumulonimbus

**Jim** · May 22, 2019

The motor is quite bulky, but at least it has enough connection points.

**AVCampos** · May 22, 2019

From the size, I'd say it should have similar specs to the PF XL.

Also, I'm happy to see that the hub doesn't appear to need a screwdriver to replace the batteries.

allanp · May 22, 2019

The bulky motor appears to be the new XL motor, but with that form factor I can't see it having the same internal motor, or the same internal gearing. Hopefully we'll get a higher output speed but with not so much torque. Whilst I'd love it to have buggy motor performance in terms of speed and torque, it'll probably not be like that. But honestly the XL motor was just too slow with too much torque. As this new form factor suggests a different internal motor and different internal gearing, maybe it'll be halfway between the XL motor and the buggy motor.

In the pictures, as well as the 4 port "smart" control+ hub I can also see a regular "dumb" battery box. I haven't seen that before for the PU system but I'm glad to see it. Also looks big enough to take AA batteries and possibly it has more than one output?

I also see in the slides there is mention of support for those that want to free build. So I guessed that means there will be some way to create our own control environments or skins or whatever you want to call them, by being able to select from various buttons, sliders, joysticks and so on, and being able to drag and drop them into your custom environment/skin/template, after which you could then assign different parameters like port, channel (1 - 5) and maybe a few others such as maximum (if a servo is connected it sets it's maximum travel, if a motor is connected it sets it's maximum speed and so on). But in another slide it said this was one of the things they were only considering. So, not sure what they mean by catering to free builders, unless they mean just supplying a "dumb" battery box so MOCers can bypass the whole smart thing altogether.

From reading the slides (and not hearing the presentation) it's hard to make out what they are saying about the connector cable. I think they are saying they would like to do it but it would be difficult to make it for a reasonable price, as it couldn't be just a cable with the two different plugs on each end. It would have to have it's own possessing capability to link up. Is that correct? Maybe they are spelling out the problem to encourage a third party solution, or maybe they really are working to bring one out.

Also, to anyone who has any of the new trains or the RC batmobile, how does the new plugs feel? The PF and 9v plugs were very sturdy but these new plugs look flimsy, like a phone charging plug you have to treat with kid gloves.

It's nice to finally get to see some of the new control+ parts. I kinda feel like I have more questions now than answers :laugh: .

Does anyone know if the summer Technic sets themselves have been displayed?

Edited May 22, 2019 by allanp

Jockos · May 22, 2019

59 minutes ago, Jim said:

The motor is quite bulky, but at least it has enough connection points.

The only thing I'm a bit worried about is that what about the future "smaller" sets with these parts? I guess maybe next Year they introduce some smaller/other motors, but still there might be a minimum piece count that required to get these incorporated to a set. Aside from that, I'm very happy and optimistic after seeing them, not only because there Will be only one way to switch the BB on, but the fact that this is the start of a new era..

**Jim** · May 22, 2019

Yup. The smaller sets will not be that small. Medium at least.

Yeah, it's interesting. Especially since there are quite a few new devices in the latest and recent line-up :thumbup:

**kbalage** · May 22, 2019

The Rambling Brick has photos of the L motor as well, it has the same dimensions and holes as the PF version:

The XL motor linked above is interesting as it seems to be much longer than the PF variant. As a plus it has more pin holes and probably will be easier to fit than the barrel-type PF version.

The hub is actually not that big, seems to be 9x8x5 studs. The PF AA battery box is 11x8x4 studs (with the switch) so the space it requires is approximately the same. For smaller builds the AAA "city" hub is still an option although the two outputs will limit the possibilities.

sirslayer · May 22, 2019

Here is a good picture of the connection to the hub from the Lego app controlled batmobile . The entire hub,cable and motor has the same feel since Lego tends to have a soft feel to them. However, the plug does feel tight and secured with no wiggle or play and you hear a quick snap to let you know you're plugged in. The plug (male end) has a different plastic feel and feels cheap.. Can't wait for more motors for this hub if its possible !!