Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Cyprinus]

3 hours ago, Altair1 said:

I hope that this piece count of 2017 pieces is wrong and that we will get a set large enough to properly represent the Shire (not just Bag End like 79003). 

Several leakers confirmed it being a Bag End set. Which makes sense and as far as I am concerned is preferable to paying an extra 250$ for another grassy hill with a door and some windows.

4 hours ago, astroboy75 said:

Are the piece-counts annouced reliable? They all seem very low. A Simpson set is also annouced at a price point of 250$ but with 1600 pieces … wait and see if that’s confirmed 

I think it is more that we don't actually know the price. I saw some saying it is 200-239$, you mention 250$...Something around 200$ for 1600 pieces wouldn't be anything unique, there is a 240$, 1900 piece X-wing, 230$ 1600 piece Red Bull Racing Car (though I guess it is Technic), Nocturnia is 200$ for 1700 pieces (and no license fees) and so on....

Edited December 21, 2024 by Cyprinus

[THELEGOBATMAN]

I never even saw a reliable leaker mention a price for either of those sets. Both Bag End and Krusty Burger had estimated price points, but from what I understand they were just guesses.

For Bag End, various ones have been thrown around, from 250–400€—always a different one at that.

The piece counts are what's real. We will have to wait for the prices.

[Gnukan]

Excited for smaller sets! I just got Rivendell and it’s going to be a while (if ever) before I feel comfortable spending that kind of money on a lego set again, so smaller but still displayable sets are very welcome!  

[Lordhelmet]

Thoughts on price and piece count:

if the piece count is actually 2017 and making the assumption this is based on the LOTR and not the Hobbit.  Here is my hope at the two rumored prices for mini figures.

$250 

12. - bilbo, Frodo, Gandalf, Sam, Merry, Pippen, Nazgûl, Rosie, Lobelia, Farmer Maggot, and two other hobbits (not named)

$350

18 - same list as above.  Plus a second Nazgûl, Hamfast, Odo, Lotho, a human ruffian, and Saruman.

[BrickBob Studpants]

I‘m very happy to hear that Bag‘s End is a smaller set! I‘d be running out of space otherwise

[wesker]

14 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

12. - bilbo, Frodo, Gandalf, Sam, Merry, Pippen, Nazgûl, Rosie, Lobelia, Farmer Maggot, and two other hobbits (not named)

While I'm excited for Bag End its kind of sad that even Rosie and Lobelia could be getting official minifigures before Eowyn does. At this point I'm half expecting Hera and the Rings of Power cast to show up in a set before she ever gets an official minifigure.

[Altair1]

3 hours ago, wesker said:

While I'm excited for Bag End its kind of sad that even Rosie and Lobelia could be getting official minifigures before Eowyn does. 

Fully agree, and the same for Faramir, Denethor, the Witch King, etc... but let us be patient, I am confident Minas Tirith will come in 2026 ;-)

[TeufelHund]

On 12/22/2024 at 1:50 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

I‘m very happy to hear that Bag‘s End is a smaller set! I‘d be running out of space otherwise

That was my thinking - I'm going to have to seriously reorganise my mancave as I have both Barad Dur and Rivendell to squeeze in after I finish building them!

[TheDoctor]

Did anybody else catch that Bilbo figure posted on Instagram, looked like one of those China leak pics.

Ian Holm's Bilbo in the burgundy jacket and red waistcoat, grey recolour of the hobbit hair, regular brown legs though, presume that was a mistake!

I pray it's legit!

[kuzyabricks]

On 12/26/2024 at 2:59 PM, TheDoctor said:

Did anybody else catch that Bilbo figure posted on Instagram, looked like one of those China leak pics.

Ian Holm's Bilbo in the burgundy jacket and red waistcoat, grey recolour of the hobbit hair, regular brown legs though, presume that was a mistake!

I pray it's legit!

I did not, do you have a link?

[DonQuixote]

I hope it's Bag End based on The Hobbit movie and comes with all the dwarves. 

[Khargeust]

14 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

I hope it's Bag End based on The Hobbit movie and comes with all the dwarves. 

Me too. Having missed the Hobbit sets from 2012-2014, I would love to see Thorin's company as minifigures, the characters are so unique and endearing.

I'm pretty sure we will have instead a quite boring selection of figurines from LOTR...

Edited December 28, 2024 by Khargeust

[DonQuixote]

25 minutes ago, Khargeust said:

Me too. Having missed the Hobbit sets from 2012-2014, I would love to see Thorin's company as minifigures, the characters are so unique and endearing.

I'm pretty sure we will have instead a quite boring selection of figurines from LOTR...

Yeah I'm afraid it's just Gandalf and some Hobbits.

It will be a dealbraker for me. If it has all the dwarves it will be a 100% purchase for me. If not, I will not buy it.The dwarves are so unique and interesting. 

Maybe I'll collect them at Bricklink. But they are so expensive now. I recently bought Bombur. He is so cool! 

[TheDoctor]

There's no way we're getting Thorin's company in a 2000 piece set.

That's too many minifigures and new moulds as the old ones were destroyed.
(maybe there will be some Easter eggs like the big contract he signed, the Mithril vest etc.)

Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the 'potential' leaked Bilbo, but I think it's far more likely to be Bilbo's 111th Birthday with some side builds like the cake, tables & tent along with Gandalf's cart.

A majority of people missed out on the original sets and so far, Gandalf and Frodo have only appeared in a $500 set.
It will be made to appeal to a very wide audience with Gandalf, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, maybe a few background hobbits like Everard Proudfoot and Lobelia.

No doubt there will be a light brick too for extra 'cosiness'. 

Edited December 28, 2024 by TheDoctor

[Altair1]

1 hour ago, DonQuixote said:

I hope it's Bag End based on The Hobbit movie and comes with all the dwarves. 

Very unlikely that they do again Bag End based on the Hobbit. It will most likely be based on LOTR.

[kuzyabricks]

6 hours ago, TheDoctor said:

There's no way we're getting Thorin's company in a 2000 piece set.

That's too many minifigures and new moulds as the old ones were destroyed.
(maybe there will be some Easter eggs like the big contract he signed, the Mithril vest etc.)

Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the 'potential' leaked Bilbo, but I think it's far more likely to be Bilbo's 111th Birthday with some side builds like the cake, tables & tent along with Gandalf's cart.

A majority of people missed out on the original sets and so far, Gandalf and Frodo have only appeared in a $500 set.
It will be made to appeal to a very wide audience with Gandalf, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, maybe a few background hobbits like Everard Proudfoot and Lobelia.

No doubt there will be a light brick too for extra 'cosiness'. 

Do you know the instgram page that posted it?

[Lordhelmet]

2 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Do you know the instgram page that posted it?

Seconded, looked but couldn’t find anything.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Do we have a description of the book nook set?

[Jaromir]

On 12/28/2024 at 6:46 PM, TheDoctor said:

There's no way we're getting Thorin's company in a 2000 piece set.

That's too many minifigures and new moulds as the old ones were destroyed.
(maybe there will be some Easter eggs like the big contract he signed, the Mithril vest etc.)

Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the 'potential' leaked Bilbo, but I think it's far more likely to be Bilbo's 111th Birthday with some side builds like the cake, tables & tent along with Gandalf's cart.

A majority of people missed out on the original sets and so far, Gandalf and Frodo have only appeared in a $500 set.
It will be made to appeal to a very wide audience with Gandalf, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, maybe a few background hobbits like Everard Proudfoot and Lobelia.

No doubt there will be a light brick too for extra 'cosiness'. 

I wouldn't be so sure. We had a Bag End set from Hobbit before with 4 dwarves and a price tag less than 90 USD. In this case price is much higher, so we might end up with lots of minifigures and smaller piece count for such a set. This year Burrow set from Harry Potter which is probably the same price range got 2400 pieces and 10 minifigures. Some of the sets like Daily Bugle for an example got 25 minifigures. Of course, this is higher shelf price, but still got same price per piece and minifigure ratio.

[TheDoctor]

1 hour ago, Jaromir said:

I wouldn't be so sure. We had a Bag End set from Hobbit before with 4 dwarves and a price tag less than 90 USD. In this case price is much higher, so we might end up with lots of minifigures and smaller piece count for such a set.

The entire company would require 9 new moulds(!) if they're going for the same look as the previous releases.

Rivendell is the perfect example of LEGOs reticence to create new molds, only using one new elf hairpiece to represent every elf in the set.

The Hobbit trilogy is also very divisive. 
One of the frequent pitfalls on this forum is people demanding what they want rather than anticipating LEGO releasing a set that appeals to the widest audience possible (to make the biggest return on investment).

It will be based on the Fellowship of the Ring.
(and like I said before, I expect there to be some references to the hobbit)

Like everybody here, I'd love some more Rohan and Gondor representation, but the sad truth is that those are risky sets for the Icons theme. (maybe the exception of Edoras)

______________

Most of the piece count on this set will be on plant detailing and I suspect interior floor tiling.
It's amazing how quickly that eats up the part count.
There's roughly 250 1x1 tiles on the Rivendell roof alone.

Expect a compact, detail rich rendition of Bag End.
 

On 12/29/2024 at 3:37 AM, Lordhelmet said:

Seconded, looked but couldn’t find anything.

I can't find it anymore, it was on the #legoleaks results on my phone, I just saw it when scrolling.
Presumably deleted?
(Always a surprise to see something other than Star Wars on that feed)

Edited December 30, 2024 by TheDoctor

[hikouki]

I take it that in 2025, we will only have these two smaller sets, and no large-expensive-at-the-same-time-expansive set for LOTR?

It will be interesting what the reactions will be. People complained left and right about Rivendell being too expensive and too large. (I think that size, minifig count and level of detail justified the price.)

[Black Falcon]

24 minutes ago, hikouki said:

I take it that in 2025, we will only have these two smaller sets, and no large-expensive-at-the-same-time-expansive set for LOTR?

It will be interesting what the reactions will be. People complained left and right about Rivendell being too expensive and too large. (I think that size, minifig count and level of detail justified the price.)

Well, many people would still call a 200+ Euro Set expensive and big. And I wouldn´t be surprised if we also get some Brickheads again, I mean there are still more than enough characters left that can be done.

And people will always complain. One person would like to have a 50€ playset, the other a bigger one - it will never be the perfect size, or minifigure count or whatever. But anyways, I had the impression that Rivendell was pretty well received.

 

[RichardGoring]

I have just finished building 910037 Mushroom House, which is 964 pieces, and a higher proportion of them seem on the larger side compared to a standard LEGO set. This worries me, as it's not that large, and trying to make Bag End with double the piece count, suggests it might be pretty small. I hope this is wrong and they can make it have a decent presence.

[kuzyabricks]

3 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Well, many people would still call a 200+ Euro Set expensive and big. And I wouldn´t be surprised if we also get some Brickheads again, I mean there are still more than enough characters left that can be done.

And people will always complain. One person would like to have a 50€ playset, the other a bigger one - it will never be the perfect size, or minifigure count or whatever. But anyways, I had the impression that Rivendell was pretty well received.

 

I'm quite excited about more Brickheadz to be honest! Not in place of system scale sets, but they are quite cute! I love my little collection. Would love a boromir/lurtz or a fun sized pack of boromir and the rest of the hobbits from the fellowship. Wouldn't mind an aragorn and a nazgul pack too! They look great standing all together. 

1 hour ago, RichardGoring said:

I have just finished building 910037 Mushroom House, which is 964 pieces, and a higher proportion of them seem on the larger side compared to a standard LEGO set. This worries me, as it's not that large, and trying to make Bag End with double the piece count, suggests it might be pretty small. I hope this is wrong and they can make it have a decent presence.

Worried about this as well! I'm just imagining the blacksmith shop level of detail but in a stretched out green format. As long as we get all twelve dwarves)))) (wishful thinking). In all reality my expectations are low figure wise. Old bilbo, gandalf, the four hobbits, maybe a few random hobbits which could easily be built from spare pieces, gandalf's cart, a little stand/bench, and bag end. I'll still buy it but still have slight hope for a hobbit version (unlikely). 

 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

5 hours ago, hikouki said:

I take it that in 2025, we will only have these two smaller sets, and no large-expensive-at-the-same-time-expansive set for LOTR?

It will be interesting what the reactions will be. People complained left and right about Rivendell being too expensive and too large. (I think that size, minifig count and level of detail justified the price.)

I'd argue that 120€ and ~200€ are still expensive sets. 

But yeah, compared to the past two years, they're much smaller.

Edited December 31, 2024 by THELEGOBATMAN