Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Lordhelmet]

I know I’ll buy it regardless, but for me the difference is when I buy it.  If the set shows it has some value to buy early (good minifigures selection - ie 1 for every $15 to $20).  Good build price per piece wise - if it’s not close then big pieces or unique ones or lots of prints.  A good gwp is also a deciding factor.

i was always going to get Barad Dur, I bought it day one because of the gwp.  Same thing for bag end, if there is value I will buy day one.  If there is no value I’ll wait till there is 2xvip plus a decent gwp (Black Friday most likely).  
 

my value in this set is 12-17 minifigures (especially considering repeats from Rivendell - I am expecting 5 repeats - maybe 6 if there is a Nazgûl).  A good build.  Or if those parameters are not met then a gwp would have to be included that has a unique hobbit.  And this assumes $250.

[mtrsteve]

It really will be interesting to see how they handle the minifig line up for bag end. As others have already pointed out, leaning into Bilbo's party with lots of hobbits is one option but risks sort of generic minifig (noone really has a strong opinion of what farmer cotton should look like). Giving a nod to the hobbit with some or all of the dwarfs is another option, and if I'm not mistaken can even still be LotR timeline as Bilbo continied to be visited by dwarfs from time to time. But mold/unique piece issues could get in the way.

I wonder if there's some third path they could take, like including some Dunedain rangers watching over the shire, or a little Tom Bombadil/Goldberry and old man willow side build?

[zoth33]

1 hour ago, mtrsteve said:

It really will be interesting to see how they handle the minifig line up for bag end. As others have already pointed out, leaning into Bilbo's party with lots of hobbits is one option but risks sort of generic minifig (noone really has a strong opinion of what farmer cotton should look like). Giving a nod to the hobbit with some or all of the dwarfs is another option, and if I'm not mistaken can even still be LotR timeline as Bilbo continied to be visited by dwarfs from time to time. But mold/unique piece issues could get in the way.

I wonder if there's some third path they could take, like including some Dunedain rangers watching over the shire, or a little Tom Bombadil/Goldberry and old man willow side build?

A Dunedain ranger or Bombadil and Goldberry most likely won't happen as I think all they have right to are the movies.  

[mtrsteve]

44 minutes ago, zoth33 said:

A Dunedain ranger or Bombadil and Goldberry most likely won't happen as I think all they have right to are the movies.  

Yeah, that might rule out Bombadil, but I think they could do semi generic Dunedain Ranger without issue, same way they "didnt" do Gloin in Rivendel

Edited December 31, 2024 by mtrsteve

[zoth33]

1 minute ago, mtrsteve said:

Yeah, that might rule out Bombadil, but I think they could do semi generic Dunedain Ranger without issue, same way they "didnt" do Going in Rivendel

You mean Gloin?

[mtrsteve]

2 minutes ago, zoth33 said:

You mean Gloin?

Yes, autocorrect FTL. Edit FTW

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by mtrsteve

[zoth33]

1 minute ago, mtrsteve said:

Yes, autocorrect FTL

 

Ok but Gloin was actually there in the movie and they just couldn't name him so they probably won't add a ranger that doesn't exist from the movies 

[mtrsteve]

Just now, zoth33 said:

Ok but Gloin was actually there in the movie and they just couldn't name him so they probably won't add a ranger that doesn't exist from the movies 

The Rangers were in the movie too, you just couldn't see them cause they good at what they do XD

[zoth33]

1 minute ago, mtrsteve said:

The Rangers were in the movie too, you just couldn't see them cause they good at what they do XD

HaHa nice.  I wish we would get some figs like that I just don't see in happening in the Hobbiton set.  If we get a Minas Tirith or Osgiliath set I will be very happy.  

Edited December 31, 2024 by zoth33

[Renny The Spaceman]

REAL PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found this on brickshelf. I dont know if its real. does anyone have any ideas?

Hobbit

I would be really exited if Lego got that license. This has the potential to be a great line.

[Artanis I]

7 hours ago, mtrsteve said:

The Rangers were in the movie too, you just couldn't see them cause they good at what they do XD

TLG will just say that they're in the set too, and we just can't see them

[Agent Kallus]

Now when I last read the books I seem to remember some dwarves being present for Bilbo's party prep and leaving prep.

If it's 2017 parts and we round to the closest 100 so 2000 and then say a minifig per 100 parts -3 that'd give us 17 figs.

17 is probably more generous than they'd realistically go but if it was 17 I'd hope for

Bilbo (Old), Frodo, Samwise, Gandalf, Merry, Pippin, Fredagar, Rosie, Lobelia, Old Gaffer,  Farmer Maggot, Nazgul*2, Dwarf*3, Hobbit child.

The full company of Thorin would be nice but I'd rather prioritise Hobbits in a Hobbiton set.

Maybe young Bilbo in the GWP though personally I don't like it when they trap a regular system build that we won't get otherwise as a GWP. Like the D&D mimic was a great GWP but the LotR Nazgul's Fell beast should just have been a regular set ( perhaps with Eowyn and make the Nazgul the Witch King or if they wanted to keep it Osgiliath then include Faramir and Frodo.)

Edited January 1 by Agent Kallus

[Lordhelmet]

10 hours ago, mtrsteve said:

noone really has a strong opinion of what farmer cotton should look like

I would expect farmer cotton to look like the movie version, but would prefer farmer maggot who has a speaking role.  This is also why I think they need to do 12-17 mini figs if they are doing hobbits.  They will all have the same legs, same hair (different colors) it is just head and torso prints.  They are not overly special or expensive to produce.  

[RichardGoring]

I love the optimism of the New Year, but I'm saying it will be closer to Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, and Gandalf. We will all be up in arms about it. But if Rivendell has 15 and Barad Dur has 10, I find it hard to imagine LEGO giving us more figures in a set with a third or half the piece count.

I hope I'm wrong! And I agree that it should be in the mid-teens for pretty much any scenario they choose to base it on, to bring the scene to life.

[Yoggington]

19 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

REAL PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found this on brickshelf. I dont know if its real. does anyone have any ideas?

Hobbit

I would be really exited if Lego got that license. This has the potential to be a great line.

[mtrsteve]

23 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

REAL PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found this on brickshelf. I dont know if its real. does anyone have any ideas?

Hobbit

I would be really exited if Lego got that license. This has the potential to be a great line.

Imma go out on a limb and say we aren't getting any LotR sets with yellow skin tone.

[Renny The Spaceman]

16 minutes ago, mtrsteve said:

Imma go out on a limb and say we aren't getting any LotR sets with yellow skin tone.

Yeah, I'm not stupid, it's a The Hobbit set, they're probably making them yellow to establish it's a different theme

[zoth33]

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Yeah, I'm not stupid, it's a The Hobbit set, they're probably making them yellow to establish it's a different theme

They won't do that now.  If they don't have the rights to the Hobbit we are not getting sets.  

[kuzyabricks]

6 hours ago, zoth33 said:

They won't do that now.  If they don't have the rights to the Hobbit we are not getting sets.  

Heartbreaking to be honest

[Black Falcon]

Whether they could and wether not is still speculation since we don´t know what their license looks like. And if they even wanted to do Hobbit Sets in the first place. Since they seem to conentrate on Brickheads, Big LotR Sets and well the Booknook, I don´t think there would even be a reason for them to want to make a Hobbit set, since there are so many Locations from the LotR left they can do - and the Hobbit is just the less demanded IP. Even if I personally wouldn´t be against a Erebor Set. But honestly, that is probably the only Location I would want and then again there would be a lot minifigs needed to do it justice + smaug. 

[MAB]

21 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Yeah, I'm not stupid, it's a The Hobbit set, they're probably making them yellow to establish it's a different theme

It's been about 20 years since they switched from yellow to fleshie tones in licensed sets aside from where the characters are yellow.  Why would they go back now, especially when they already did The Hobbit in flesh tones in the past. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

24 minutes ago, MAB said:

It's been about 20 years since they switched from yellow to fleshie tones in licensed sets aside from where the characters are yellow.  Why would they go back now, especially when they already did The Hobbit in flesh tones in the past. 

Well they'd do it to set it apart from the old hobbit sets as the sold poorly, they make them yellow as LEGO city sells, it's also why they reuse star wars prints because star wars sells

[icm]

I think @Renny The Spaceman is jonkling. Let's keep the jonkling in the aslume, please.

Edited January 2 by icm

[Cyprinus]

Old LotR sets also weren't selling like hotcakes. Yet modern LotR still uses flesh tones :P

[Yoggington]

Having watched the War of the Rohirrim, I have some hope for an Edoras set.

It would have the same issues as Rivendell - in that it's just too much to accurately portray - but I do think the Lego design team could capture the spirit of the location without every little detail required.