Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[BrickBob Studpants]

17 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Did you get this from clay (the leaker)? I hope it's not just fully speculative on his part [..]

I reread his comment and he said that's what he "expected", so it's hard to tell if it's just speculation or based on intel. I hope it's true, because finding space for a $400-500 Rivendell would be very tricksy, even for me

[kuzyabricks]

13 hours ago, Altair1 said:

I am disappointed too as I already own the previous Bag End. But hopefully at this price range it will be bigger and include more of the Shire. In any case I will buy it, as I have bought every single LOTR set so far (except the ugly BrickHeadz of course, which do not count)

I find this so funny. Every time LOTR gets brought you insult the BrickHeadz. It's tiring. Hate to be that guy but your collection is not complete because the BrickHeadz DO count))))

[mirkwoodspiders]

19 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

I find this so funny. Every time LOTR gets brought you insult the BrickHeadz. It's tiring. Hate to be that guy but your collection is not complete because the BrickHeadz DO count))))

I bought the Brickheadz. Mostly as a completionist move, but I do like the aesthetic. I wonder how many more they'll produce?

[kuzyabricks]

22 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

I bought the Brickheadz. Mostly as a completionist move, but I do like the aesthetic. I wonder how many more they'll produce?

The Gimli and Legolas are the best ones. Gandalf and Balrog are great too. Would love a Boromir and Lurtz or Faramir and Eowyn? 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I don’t get Brickheadz, but the LOTR ones aren’t as bad in my opinion. I got them because of the completionist in me but I do kind of like them actually. But generally speaking I think Brickheadz are dumb

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

I don’t get Brickheadz, but the LOTR ones aren’t as bad in my opinion. I got them because of the completionist in me but I do kind of like them actually. But generally speaking I think Brickheadz are dumb

Same with me, got them to have the complete LOTR sets.

 

different question is do you need all of the hobbit sets to be complete or are they two separate lines?

 

also, I am happy about bag end especially at $250-$300.  I would love some new hobbits outside the four so hoping we get 10-12 minifigures.

a second set would be awesome.  I echo the sentiment that it is not just a buildable creature like Harry Potter is doing but the actual bridge scene.

 

still holding out hope for Gondor.  Someday (hopefully not another decade goes by)

[mirkwoodspiders]

1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said:

still holding out hope for Gondor.  Someday (hopefully not another decade goes by)

If there is a 2HY set in 2025 as rumors purport, I bet it's the big ticket Back Friday set. Maybe something from Gondor... ?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

6 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

I find this so funny. Every time LOTR gets brought you insult the BrickHeadz. It's tiring. Hate to be that guy but your collection is not complete because the BrickHeadz DO count))))

To be fair, they don't count if you don't want them to count. It's a different theme after all.

Most completionists don't get LEGO BrickHeadz when collecting certain themes, because it's a separate one in itself.

[kuzyabricks]

37 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

To be fair, they don't count if you don't want them to count. It's a different theme after all.

Most completionists don't get LEGO BrickHeadz when collecting certain themes, because it's a separate one in itself.

I don't think it works that way. Rivendell and Baradur are under the Icons umbrella, no? So do they not count. The Brickheadz is listed on brickset and bricklink as well.

[MAB]

40 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

I don't think it works that way. Rivendell and Baradur are under the Icons umbrella, no? So do they not count. The Brickheadz is listed on brickset and bricklink as well.

It works whichever way a collector wants. 

There are also Dimensions sets, Comic Con packaging with common figures and parts inside, the store build of Sting, key chains, sticker sheets, and various computer games, and so on if you want to be completely complete.

[kuzyabricks]

46 minutes ago, MAB said:

It works whichever way a collector wants. 

There are also Dimensions sets, Comic Con packaging with common figures and parts inside, the store build of Sting, key chains, sticker sheets, and various computer games, and so on if you want to be completely complete.

Right, so you need ALL the sets to say you have the full collection. That's what I'm saying. I can say I have the entire collection and only own the brickheadz. Not how it works. That doesn't count.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

2 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Right, so you need ALL the sets to say you have the full collection. That's what I'm saying. I can say I have the entire collection and only own the brickheadz. Not how it works. That doesn't count.

Eh I think it depends on how the individual collector decides to categorize it. Personally I don’t count the little ugly store builds as part of the official line. And I still consider my collection complete. I could go either way on the Brickheadz, but I do have them. I count poly bags too

[mtrsteve]

3 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Right, so you need ALL the sets to say you have the full collection. That's what I'm saying. I can say I have the entire collection and only own the brickheadz. Not how it works. That doesn't count.

As someone who got raked over the coals for saying the LotR line is back because technically it's Icons and Brickheadz, the lesson I learned is none of this new wave counts towards completion of the LotR theme, because none of it has that theme as a label. As others have pointed out, individual collectors can draw whatever line they want for completionism. Anyone who naively added the middle earth brick heads to 'complete' their LotR collection actually just has an incomplete Brickheadz theme collection now. ;) 

[MKJoshA]

Arguing over whether Brickheadz count towards a theme or not is a little much isn't it? Either you collect them as part of a theme or you don't. No one is handing out awards for complete collections so can we agree to having different opinions?

[mtrsteve]

3 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

Arguing over whether Brickheadz count towards a theme or not is a little much isn't it? Either you collect them as part of a theme or you don't. No one is handing out awards for complete collections so can we agree to having different opinions?

I hope we're all just being a little cheeky. Brickheadz are definitely. Love it or hate it offering though. Looking forward to more deets on bag end, and about to order barad dur tonight when insiders weekend kicks off!

(Full disclosure, I'm only a completionist for my minifig collection, so there's lots of sets, especially hobbit and Brickheadz ones, that just never interested me too much)

[Kaijumeister]

Nice to hear Bag End will be cheaper than Rivendell and Sauron’s Skyscraper, but I do hope the minifigure selection is more interesting than several hobbits and perhaps Gandalf (new hair / hat please!) and a Nazgul or two. It’d be great to get Thorin and company from the Hobbit films, but I doubt Lego will be willing to resurrect that many old moulds for a one-off set.

The other set is presumably the Balrog one teased by T & N Bricks. Hopefully a minifigure compatible set that includes Gandalf annd perhaps a new Glamdring mould, and not simply a poorly realised statue that Lego loves clogging licensed themes up with these days.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[MAB]

5 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

It’d be great to get Thorin and company from the Hobbit films, but I doubt Lego will be willing to resurrect that many old moulds for a one-off set.

We already got them. I doubt they'd put 15 figures in a set at this price point and if they did, the build would be no better than the existing Bag End. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Not sure how reliable this website is, but it lists Bag End as a 350€ set.

https://en.hothbricks.com/nouveautes-lego-2025-rumeurs/

[Balrogofmorgoth]

15 hours ago, MAB said:

We already got them. I doubt they'd put 15 figures in a set at this price point and if they did, the build would be no better than the existing Bag End. 

Why do people keep saying this? “We already got them” it’s been over ten years, it’s remake time. Just because a lot of them still hold up ok doesn’t mean they wouldn’t benefit from modern remakes

[kuzyabricks]

14 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

Why do people keep saying this? “We already got them” it’s been over ten years, it’s remake time. Just because a lot of them still hold up ok doesn’t mean they wouldn’t benefit from modern remakes

And have they seen the prices of them? Im not paying 300+ for all the dwarves

[Lordhelmet]

I am good with some remakes.  However for Bag End I am hoping for a bunch of hobbits set in LOTR.  Especially if it is $350.  I don't think 12-15 total mini figures is too much to ask for especially considering if they are hobbits you would only have two or three legs with no prints, plus different colors of the same hair piece, just torso and face prints to work on. 

 

If they go with the hobbit version vs. LOTR then I would want at least 18- 20 mini figures so we can get some hobbits in addition to the company and Gandalf (2 sackville Baggins, and maybe one selling off Bilbo's belongings)  

[RichardGoring]

1 hour ago, kuzyabricks said:

And have they seen the prices of them? Im not paying 300+ for all the dwarves

Whether you buy the old ones or wait for a new set from LEGO, I'm pretty sure you'll end up paying $300. Albeit with any new set your get loads of bricks too! We can dream of lower priced sets, but I suspect it will be a dream. LEGO knows how to make money far too well.

Edited November 24, 2024 by RichardGoring

[chris6507]

I suppose if the set is just Bag End without any further Hobbiton, they could do something similiar to the UCS Millennium Falcon and Collectors Edition Hogwarts Express and have both sets of minifigures you'd expect from both Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Realistically to have it be both, all you would really need is The Hobbit figures and the an Old Bilbo and Frodo to turn it from a one movie set to an either or set. Personally I already have all the dwarfs, so i'm not too invested either way. But seems like the easiest route for LEGO to take to cover all bases at a relatively low additional cost.

I just hope it's a beautiful looking set. I still haven't got Barad-Dur as I can't justify paying full price for that set without a bloody good GWP coming with it! Find GWP's a bit lacking in excitement this year, especially at Christmas.

Edited November 24, 2024 by chris6507

[Kaijumeister]

3 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

If they go with the hobbit version vs. LOTR then I would want at least 18- 20 mini figures so we can get some hobbits in addition to the company and Gandalf (2 sackville Baggins, and maybe one selling off Bilbo's belongings)  

Lego Icons Lobelia Sackville-Baggins with Bilbo’s Spoons™️ Battle Pack. 

Getting the dwarves with Bag-End would be great, because getting a range of Hobbit minifigures (I.e. the same template with the same hairpiece just with different prints) in a big Icons set would be underwhelming IMO. I can definitely see the set including Gandalf’s cart too.

I’ll be interested to see how Lego’s approach towards LotR will evolve once the Hunt for Gollum nears release. Will we get a combination of classic trilogy sets and tie-ins like the old days I wonder?

After clearing out much of my existing Star Wars collection and perhaps with a reinvigorated interest because of reading the LotR books again, I’m this close to ordering Rivendell. Amazon currently have it for £365 which is awfully tempting.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[kuzyabricks]

4 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

Whether you buy the old ones or wait for a new set from LEGO, I'm pretty sure you'll end up paying $300. Albeit with any new set your get loads of bricks too! We can dream of lower priced sets, but I suspect it will be a dream. LEGO knows how to make money far too well.

Meant to say just for the figures haha)))