Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Balrogofmorgoth]

16 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Sure, not meaning to diminish excitement for the set at all. Just voicing what I happen to be most excited for. Judging from sets like Ewok Village, The Upside Down, Tree House, etc., and combined with design advances since those sets have been made, LEGO should do very well with the scenery of Rivendell, and I'm sure the architecture will be good as well.

Oh absolutely, I’m not trying to twist your words, I’m just voicing my excitement for both potential aspects of the set, especially since it’s been so long since we’ve gotten LOTR. I’m very excited to see how they tackle the architecture in this set, but it doesn’t diminish my excitement for the potential figures, neither does already having the ones from 2012-2013. I loved how they handled the little bit of Rivendell architecture in the Council of Elrond set back in 2013, so I’m definitely very excited to see what they can do with a $500 set 10 years later

[MAB]

2 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I'm glad they exist, but I hope the LOTR D2C doesn't fall into that category.

I'm sure the LOTR set will fall into that category  ... for most other people. Just like most people aren't buying Hogwarts,  Hogwarts Express,  HP Icons or the Hulkbuster. I think we all realise that large expensive sets do not, and are not meant to, appeal to the masses.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

1 hour ago, MAB said:

I'm sure the LOTR set will fall into that category  ... for most other people. Just like most people aren't buying Hogwarts,  Hogwarts Express,  HP Icons or the Hulkbuster. I think we all realise that large expensive sets do not, and are not meant to, appeal to the masses.

I think you’re missing the mark here. The issue is not that expensive sets are all in the same category of only appealing to certain people. That could be said of any specific type of lego set. The “category”, so to speak, is a group of expensive sets that don’t even appeal to the majority of people who typically buy and collect large expensive sets. Unless the design of this set is really bad, I doubt it will fall into that category considering the amount of people this sort of set would appeal to. It would have to be very specifically bad for it to fit into a “who is this even for?” category like the Hulkbuster

Edited December 12, 2022 by Balrogofmorgoth

[Black Numenorean]

I just saw the first pic of Rivendel on instagram. I need to see better picture because it seems not to be good at my taste.

[Ferder]

4 minutes ago, Black Numenorean said:

I just saw the first pic of Rivendel on instagram. I need to see better picture because it seems not to be good at my taste.

The only images I'm seeing on Insta at the moment are AI generated.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I saw the same thing, it’s an AI generated fake from an account that admits to fake leaks

But how about that piece count??? 6167 pieces according to Brick Clicker

Edited December 12, 2022 by Balrogofmorgoth

[Bainter-ban]

7 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

I saw the same thing, it’s an AI generated fake from an account that admits to fake leaks

But how about that piece count??? 6167 pieces according to Brick Clicker

The high piece count indicates that it is microscale… similar price and piece count as the hogwarts set

[mirkwoodspiders]

15 minutes ago, Bainter-ban said:

The high piece count indicates that it is microscale… similar price and piece count as the hogwarts set

Couldn't that just indicate a larger overall structure in general? Hogwarts and Rivendell are completely different subject matters. A castle that size lends itself to microscale for the full detail... Rivendell not so much I think. We'll see.

[Frizzlefry25]

may have missed this, but is Rivendell confirmed as a minfigure scale set, and not micro like Hogwarts was?

[Triceron]

7 minutes ago, Frizzlefry25 said:

may have missed this, but is Rivendell confirmed as a minfigure scale set, and not micro like Hogwarts was?

Don't know yet but considering the amount of rumored minifigs it will have, I doubt it would be micro-scale.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

3 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Couldn't that just indicate a larger overall structure in general? Hogwarts and Rivendell are completely different subject matters. A castle that size lends itself to microscale for the full detail... Rivendell not so much I think. We'll see.

I agree with this, although when I saw the piece count, microscale was certainly my first thought as well. I do think the sheer size of the structure of Hogwarts makes it much more suitable for microscale than Rivendell, which is much more open and smaller scale structurally speaking, lending itself much more towards being more minifig compatible. Either way I won’t judge it until I see it, I hated the idea of microscale Hogwarts and I ended up loving it. We’ll see how this goes

1 minute ago, Triceron said:

Don't know yet but considering the amount of rumored minifigs it will have, I doubt it would be micro-scale.

The initial piece of information suggested it would include minifigures, but we don’t have any idea what the amount looks like yet

[Hoth Rebel]

1 minute ago, Triceron said:

Don't know yet but considering the amount of rumored minifigs it will have, I doubt it would be micro-scale.

Are any minifigures ‘confirmed’ by leakers? All I know is that it’s rivendell and apparently 6167 pieces which tells me it’s microscale. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I wonder how many of those pieces are landscape and how many are structure. We may get cliffs and trees and waterfalls. While those things should be included to a degree, I do hope most of it goes into the structure and architecture 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Balrogofmorgoth

[Ravenclaw62442]

14 minutes ago, Hoth Rebel said:

Are any minifigures ‘confirmed’ by leakers? All I know is that it’s rivendell and apparently 6167 pieces which tells me it’s microscale. 

Yeah, 6167 definitely sounds more microscale. Can’t see there being 20 mini figures with a piece County that high either. Wouldn’t be confident of the entire fellowship either. 
 

Knowing LEGO it will be microscale plus a single mini fig of Figwit 😅

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I don’t necessarily hate the idea of microscale as long as it’s done well. But if we don’t get a lot of minifigures it will be a massive let down considering this is probably our only chance at anymore official LOTR figures. Plus it will turn a lot of people off of buying the set, leading to no chance of a reboot

[sahidko]

Imagine that, Brickheadz and one microscale set after 10 years. :D Hope it doesn't turn out like that...

[Hoth Rebel]

To be fair LEGO does probably market this to 18+ non afol crowd. So a microscale one-off wouldn’t be a bad thing to do from that standpoint.

 The problem is that this forum and many afol want playscale and an entire wave afterwards and that is what they expect as the bare minimum. 
 

I hope I’m wrong and we get something like the harry potter return in 2018, but the piececount, price and history of recent (18+) sets makes me think a lot of people will be disappointed. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

47 minutes ago, Hoth Rebel said:

To be fair LEGO does probably market this to 18+ non afol crowd. So a microscale one-off wouldn’t be a bad thing to do from that standpoint.

 The problem is that this forum and many afol want playscale and an entire wave afterwards and that is what they expect as the bare minimum. 
 

I hope I’m wrong and we get something like the harry potter return in 2018, but the piececount, price and history of recent (18+) sets makes me think a lot of people will be disappointed. 

A microscale one off with no minifigures would definitely be a great way to appeal to as few people as possible, if that’s what they’re going for. I would buy it because I’m gonna get any LOTR products they release no matter what. But they can’t count on enough people doing that. And even though it may very well be the case considering how little they seem to understand their adult market, it would definitely be a money losing move for them. Microscale in and of itself will turn plenty of people off. Lack of figures would turn the majority of the rest off. All that would be left are hardcore LOTR fans and collectors of the microscale architecture niche. And of those people, still only the ones with the budget for a $500 would buy it. Not setting themselves up for much success at that point.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Balrogofmorgoth

[wesker]

2 hours ago, Ravenclaw62442 said:

Yeah, 6167 definitely sounds more microscale. Can’t see there being 20 mini figures with a piece County that high either. Wouldn’t be confident of the entire fellowship either. 
 

Knowing LEGO it will be microscale plus a single mini fig of Figwit 😅

To be fair 20 figures never seemed realistic to me even at minifigure scale. With the amount of molds and new prints required for a single set coming off a 10 year hiatus for the theme it was just never going to happen.

The only reason other themes can get away with that many is because most of the characters are already in production in other sets or the new ones recycle a lot of existing common parts.

[natesroom]

i probably will buy it if its microscale, but i will not like it nearly as much as if it was a real minifigure set.

[Alegrispa]

People seem pretty split on microscale vs minifigscale. Personally I'm just gonna wait till we get a look. Microscale would need to look incredible, or at least decent (but with minifigures) for me to be interested. And sure, a minifigscale set couldn't do the whole location justice with 6000 pieces, but one section with a lot of detail would be pretty nice.

Though I'm not holding my breath considering how half-a**ed most of the big releases were these past two years. When there's one every month, the quality is just bound to drop off :/

If I'm honest, what I want the most is just a chance to complete my Fellowship. Everything else I don't mind building myself.

On 12/12/2022 at 2:28 AM, Balrogofmorgoth said:

Is it weird that I actually liked Aqua Raiders more than Atlantis? 

I don't think so. I generally don't see a lot of love for Atlantis, which Is why I am lucky that it's my favourite theme since childhood and that the sets are found sealed fairly easily. I don't think I want to get a full collection since one of the rarer sets is one I never cared for, but I am currently collecting all the ones I wanted as a kid, and even multiple copies of the sets I had since they're still so cheap.

If I wanted to get a full, sealed LotR collection now, how much would that set me back? 2000-3000 bucks? Not even including the Hobbit sets. That's madness!

Edited December 13, 2022 by Alegrispa

[TakeaBrick]

It is likely to be a micro-scale set. It once again proves that LEGO drops the ball and does not know what the fans truly want. 

Very disappointing. 

[Alegrispa]

10 minutes ago, TakeaBrick said:

It is likely to be a micro-scale set. It once again proves that LEGO drops the ball and does not know what the fans truly want. 

Very disappointing. 

I mean, I'm sure a lot of people would be happy with a microscale Rivendell. Don't they count as fans? I agree that TLG has been dropping the ball frequently lately. But depending on how it looks it seems a bit premature to write it of as a Black-Panther-Bust/Hulkbuster-sized misstep.

Admittedly the existence of the Brickheadz is pretty ridiculous. I don't respect anyone who collects Funkos and the like.

Edited December 13, 2022 by Alegrispa

[RichardGoring]

If I think about minifig scale, and 6000 pieces, you could combine 80024 Legendary Flower Fruit Mountain (2000) for the terrain with maybe something about the size of 75954 Harry Potter Hogwarts Great Hall (1000) for a main structure, and then scenes for the council (maybe 750, similar to 75339 Death Star™ Trash Compactor Diorama), Frodo's recovery (another 750), and the gallery with Narsil (for a final 750). All feel reasonable in terms of their own scene, could be done well, could be linked nicely together. You get three major scenes, plus the architecture and environment. So I can definitely see it being minifigure scale and looking good.

Hogwarts had to be microscale because of the size, but it doesn't feel like this does. Although I'm sure it would look great if they decided to cover a much larger area at microscale. Either way, the source material is great for creating a lovely model that should be fun to build.

[Jarreth2]

Maybe .. just maybe this could be done in minifig scale .. I’m gonna use LegoMocLoc as an example .. his LOTR builds are beautiful .. his Rivendell UCS is a massive 21120 pieces BUT is hugely detailed and includes practically every single part of Rivendell .. his Lothlorien UCS ( my personal favourite ) is 3855 and very detailed .. so this Rivendell ( at 6167 ) is supposedly 2312 pieces bigger than his Lothlorien .. again dependant on how they structure things and how much detail they go in to .. it could just be doable in minifigure scale 🤔