Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[NDLG80]

From what I can make out from the watermarked blurry image, looks great to me...
Any non-watermarked images circulating yet as I can't make out the minifigs that you guys are seeing :-(

[GoldenNinja3000]

I'm so happy to see LEGO LOTR return! I definitely expected a microscale Rivendell. Given how much I love the 2018 Hogwarts Castle, I'm tempted to say I would have preferred a micro one, but I'm not sure that's true. I'm blown away by the detail and design already and that's just from a blurry leak. I'm impressed that LEGO went all-out and did a minifigure scale set with tons of new figures, but I do think it looks expensive for $500. I can't wait to see official pictures though because I'm sure there's more going on than we can see here. 

 

Barad-dûr looks incredible as well and I really hope it's released next year. I need a companion to Orthanc! That set would be a dream come true.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I adore the aesthetic of the Rivendell set. It’s absolutely gorgeous. And they absolutely exceeded my expectations on the amount of figures!!! Dreams really do come true

[Legoman123]

So Lego have managed to do an amazingly detailed exterior while keeping Rivendell mini figure scale.  Truly remarkable.  

 

I called Barad-dur a while ago now mainly because I thought it made the most logical sense and also because I desperately wanted this set ever since Orthanc released.   On that note I am not sure if anyone has seen on Instagram but it has been claimed that Barad-dur is going to be minifigure scale as it has a dungeon, armoury and chambers (I assume for Sauron) included.  Maybe it'll just be those three rooms or maybe more.  

[ForgedInLego]

1 minute ago, Legoman123 said:

So Lego have managed to do an amazingly detailed exterior while keeping Rivendell mini figure scale.  Truly remarkable.  

 

I called Barad-dur a while ago now mainly because I thought it made the most logical sense and also because I desperately wanted this set ever since Orthanc released.   On that note I am not sure if anyone has seen on Instagram but it has been claimed that Barad-dur is going to be minifigure scale as it has a dungeon, armoury and chambers (I assume for Sauron) included.  Maybe it'll just be those three rooms or maybe more.  

My guess on scale would be kinda like the Jurassic Park gate, with a non minifig scale exterior and minifig scale scenes from Cirith Ungol inside

[Legoman123]

4 minutes ago, ForgedInLego said:

My guess on scale would be kinda like the Jurassic Park gate, with a non minifig scale exterior and minifig scale scenes from Cirith Ungol inside

I suppose, I mean the surrounding walls will obviously be made microscale or it'd be the biggest lego set in history but the tower will Imo be minifigure scale.  I mean would you class the tower of orthanc as a non minifigure scale then or minifigure scale?

[PsychoBuilder]

3 hours ago, DynaBricks said:

Barad-Dur photo for those looking ;)

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How did you get this without a watermark?

Edited February 2, 2023 by Brickroll

[ForgedInLego]

1 minute ago, Legoman123 said:

I suppose, I mean the surrounding walls will obviously be made microscale or it'd be the biggest lego set in history but the tower will Imo be minifigure scale.  I mean would you class the tower of orthanc as a non minifigure scale then or minifigure scale?

Orthanc I'd class as minifig compatible because of the doors, balconies, and roof that are obviously work with figs, but look at the tower on the left of Barad Dur, it is at most 4x4. Maybe better pics will prove me wrong, but I think details like that'll make figs look strangely huge on the battlements or bridge, much more than they do on the stairs to Orthanc

[Legoman123]

2 minutes ago, ForgedInLego said:

Orthanc I'd class as minifig compatible because of the doors, balconies, and roof that are obviously work with figs, but look at the tower on the left of Barad Dur, it is at most 4x4. Maybe better pics will prove me wrong, but I think details like that'll make figs look strangely huge on the battlements or bridge, much more than they do on the stairs to Orthanc

See I always said Orthanc was minifigure scale but when you put it like that it makes more sense.  To be honest then I think It will be as you said minifig compatible. 

[Lordhelmet]

15 minutes ago, Legoman123 said:

See I always said Orthanc was minifigure scale but when you put it like that it makes more sense.  To be honest then I think It will be as you said minifig compatible. 

I think minifig scale refers to things scaled to minifigs height.  So for example the UCS AT AT is minifig scale.  Orthanc would be gigantic at that scale.  I would say that Orthanc is play scale (think Star Wars non UCS ATAT) which Can fit and be used with minifigs vs micro scale (like hogwarts or the Star Wars trench diorama set).  I would think Barad dur would be similar in size and concept to Orthanc from the initial information of the armory, minifigs, and other rooms. 

[Triceron]

Barad Dur I see acceptable as microscale, since it's best utilized as a setpiece or a backdrop piece anyways.  It's not like minifigs are meant to be placed right up next to the Eye of Sauron anyways.

But this is definitely exciting news, and I hope it paves the way for more sets.  I'm still looking for a quality brick-built Nazgul+Felbeast or Balrog set.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

2 hours ago, NDLG80 said:

From what I can make out from the watermarked blurry image, looks great to me...
Any non-watermarked images circulating yet as I can't make out the minifigs that you guys are seeing :-(

I mean the figs are mostly just made out because of context clues, knowing the character costumes and where they would be in the scene. 
 

The blurry watermarked one is still the only photo, but we’ll get HD images at some point in the next month. 

[NDLG80]

13 minutes ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

I mean the figs are mostly just made out because of context clues, knowing the character costumes and where they would be in the scene. 
 

The blurry watermarked one is still the only photo, but we’ll get HD images at some point in the next month. 

This is true... I could make out a few of them, but couldn't see all that were mentioned earlier...
Super excited though to see more...

[Shroffy123]

First day buy. Wow. 

[kuzyabricks]

I have a bit of theory. If the rivendell leak isn't coming from the same source is it also potentially from a survey? Maybe not from @JeanGreyForever but from another one? Could it be that there was a prior survey and rivendell beat out barad dur? So out of the two we're only getting rivendell? The images have similar water marks so I was just wondering, I might be completely wrong but it's just odd that Rivendell wasn't in Jean's survey yet it was leaked at the same time as the sets from the survey and is the only set confirmed so far.

[ForgedInLego]

24 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

I have a bit of theory. If the rivendell leak isn't coming from the same source is it also potentially from a survey? Maybe not from @JeanGreyForever but from another one? Could it be that there was a prior survey and rivendell beat out barad dur? So out of the two we're only getting rivendell? The images have similar water marks so I was just wondering, I might be completely wrong but it's just odd that Rivendell wasn't in Jean's survey yet it was leaked at the same time as the sets from the survey and is the only set confirmed so far.

The fact that Rivendell was leaked at the same time in the same format is weird, but it wouldn't make sense to include Barad-Dur in a survey if it had already been ruled out. IMO Rivendell was set in stone and Barad-Dur is still up in the air

[kuzyabricks]

5 minutes ago, ForgedInLego said:

The fact that Rivendell was leaked at the same time in the same format is weird, but it wouldn't make sense to include Barad-Dur in a survey if it had already been ruled out. IMO Rivendell was set in stone and Barad-Dur is still up in the air

For sure and I'm glad Rivendell is confirmed but even the rivendell image looks much more finished than barad dur (from what I can see) which is why it's odd its coming out during the same leak. It makes no sense that we're getting one of these sets or sure and the others are still maybes.

[Roebuck]

12 hours ago, McMurder_them_softly said:

So this Rivendell leak is the one rumored for 1 month from now in March 2023? This shouldn't be lumped in the potential 2024 or maybe-never leaks from today? 

No it is odd indeed 

12 hours ago, AmperZand said:

The type of survey sounds exactly like a product features survey using ‘conjoint analysis’ in which respondents select between different features and price points. Every respondent doesn’t see every possible set of features and price point - that would be overwhelming. Instead, each respondent sees a small subset and by deduction across many respondents, LEGO’s market researchers are able to identify the most desirable features and what the price should be. There are other methods for determining price, but you can certainly use conjoint analysis for it.

This could be true, but we only got one leaker why would another participant leak Rivendell and nothing else form their survey at the same time  They got around 50 sets at the start and only got more questions from the ones they where interested in..

I am all in for the medieval village and really hope they make it, what a dream come true that would be of a set 

Was not planning on buying any LOTR sets, but Rivendell looks good so will wait for the release to decide

[Clone OPatra]

3 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

The fact that Rivendell was leaked at the same time in the same format is weird, but it wouldn't make sense to include Barad-Dur in a survey if it had already been ruled out. IMO Rivendell was set in stone and Barad-Dur is still up in the air

 

3 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

For sure and I'm glad Rivendell is confirmed but even the rivendell image looks much more finished than barad dur (from what I can see) which is why it's odd its coming out during the same leak. It makes no sense that we're getting one of these sets or sure and the others are still maybes.

The survey JeanGrey got contained many sets that are currently out on shelves as well, and they too were watermarked in the same way. So it isn't too weird.

Where was it said that Rivendell wasn't from the same source? There's so much info swirling around that it's hard to keep track now.

[Agent Kallus]

Obviously I can't really tell at this level of detail but do Zelda and the elf ( the blonde non- Legolas one near the front) share a new hairpiece?

[JeanGreyForever]

7 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

 

The survey JeanGrey got contained many sets that are currently out on shelves as well, and they too were watermarked in the same way. So it isn't too weird.

Where was it said that Rivendell wasn't from the same source? There's so much info swirling around that it's hard to keep track now.

The survey even featured sets about to retire like 43179 - Mickey Mouse & Minnie Mouse Buildable Characters.

I definitely hadn't seen Rivendell before today. The user who I think first leaked it on Instagram already seemed to have pictures of all the other sets that I had seen so perhaps he got them and Rivendell from the same place or source? I have spoken to some other users who seemed to know about the existence of at least one or two of the sets when I first commented on them so it seems if not the pictures, then at least the general existence of the sets was already out there with a select few.

[Altair1]

Oh my god, I am so excited by these news that I can't work anymore!!! What a wondeful time indeed for Lego LOTR fans :-)

[Legoman123]

8 hours ago, Triceron said:

Barad Dur I see acceptable as microscale, since it's best utilized as a setpiece or a backdrop piece anyways.  It's not like minifigs are meant to be placed right up next to the Eye of Sauron anyways.

But this is definitely exciting news, and I hope it paves the way for more sets.  I'm still looking for a quality brick-built Nazgul+Felbeast or Balrog set.

That is true but an interior like Orthanc would work well.  Obviosly the rooms wouldn't match up to wear they are in reality but given three rooms are confirmed (dungeon, armoury, chamber) then i'dsay its a safe bet it's similar to Orthanc.  I know the walls sorrowing the tower will be microscale but I think even behind the bottom section there will be an interior but obviously it would in no way make any sense for it to be there in reality but in fact just for playability.  

Do we know what the interior of Rivendell entails?  I'm assuming the roof area on the main building has an interior? 

Last question but is there any info out there on the internet that shows or describes what the interior to Barad-dur includes?

[Gorilla94]

On 12/19/2022 at 1:51 PM, Balrogofmorgoth said:

No no no I’m not trying to say anything about you here, apologies if it came across that way. I was just trying to communicate that I really like the Gunship without people thinking I’m in the crowd of people who moaned and whined about it not including a Cody figure or who demanded everyone vote for it from the beginning. Wasn’t trying to insinuate anything about you here at all. I only replied to your comment because it’s the one that mentioned the Gunship

Ah, I'm sorry for getting it wrong ^^'

I think I found the Rivendell leak. Can anyone say if it is the whole fellowship? Can't see Gandalf and some of the figures with brown/orange hair could be anything. I am a bit confused. Are there two blond elves?

[sahidko]

Well one is going to be Legolas for sure, i will pretend the second one is Glorfindel for now. :)