GoldenNinja3000 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 12 hours ago, kuzyabricks said: If it was one mold sure. However there are multiple in this set and I don't see them being created for just one set. That would be ridiculous. Has there ever been a set where the mould has only belonged to that one set? Except like smaug for example that's an extreme case A lot of D2C sets lately have actually gotten exclusive molds. A bunch of the cars have exclusive windshields (1989 Batmobile, Ecto-1, DeLorean) and the Disney Castle had an exclusive hair mold for Tinker Bell. But because Rivendell has so many new molds I'm hoping it's a sign of heavy investment in the LOTR theme with regular playsets to come. Quote
brimbolet Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 Maybe we won't get any playsets from LOTR/HOBBIT but I'd be really surprised if we won't get something out of the TROP series... surely all the parties involved can make a vast profit after the long franchise ban that has been lifted, the series will run for at least 2 more seasons and the fan base is probably bigger than e.g. Indiana Jones. So I'm pretty optimistic Lego is working on a few sets right now. Quote
ddavid Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, brimbolet said: Maybe we won't get any playsets from LOTR/HOBBIT but I'd be really surprised if we won't get something out of the TROP series... surely all the parties involved can make a vast profit after the long franchise ban that has been lifted, the series will run for at least 2 more seasons and the fan base is probably bigger than e.g. Indiana Jones. So I'm pretty optimistic Lego is working on a few sets right now. TROP is widely seen as a disaster so I doubt Lego wants to do anything with it. It revived the talk around LOTR though, which is why Lego released LOTR sets. Lego Indiana Jones also comes out because of the new move, but is based on the old ones. Quote
wesker Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: I mean it's probably gonna be in the Barad-dûr too, they can have Sauron breaking the sword as an included scene It wouldn't surprise me if Barad-Dur includes a new weapons pack for the villain side as well. Would be nice for Sauron to have a proper mace instead of a brick built one and the orcs could really use an upgrade from those bulky Fantasy Era swords. Quote
Sneakguest Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 14 hours ago, kuzyabricks said: If it was one mold sure. However there are multiple in this set and I don't see them being created for just one set. That would be ridiculous. Has there ever been a set where the mould has only belonged to that one set? Except like smaug for example that's an extreme case So many molded parts, especially animals/beasts and molded heads have only been in one set, nothing extreme about that. Quote
MAB Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 14 hours ago, kuzyabricks said: If it was one mold sure. However there are multiple in this set and I don't see them being created for just one set. That would be ridiculous. Has there ever been a set where the mould has only belonged to that one set? Except like smaug for example that's an extreme case It might be a single mold, with multiple parts on a sprue that get bundled into a bag. Plus these are accessories where they don't need precision molds. The only connector part are the hand held hills and so these do not need to have precise diameters. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, MAB said: It might be a single mold, with multiple parts on a sprue that get bundled into a bag. Plus these are accessories where they don't need precision molds. The only connector part are the hand held hills and so these do not need to have precise diameters. This is true, I believe in Ashnflash's video he said he got a parts pack like the batman or power burst ones. Quote
GoldenNinja3000 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 3 hours ago, brimbolet said: Maybe we won't get any playsets from LOTR/HOBBIT but I'd be really surprised if we won't get something out of the TROP series... surely all the parties involved can make a vast profit after the long franchise ban that has been lifted, the series will run for at least 2 more seasons and the fan base is probably bigger than e.g. Indiana Jones. So I'm pretty optimistic Lego is working on a few sets right now. I think eventually we could see sets from the show. It's pretty popular (in viewership if not fan reception) and if it remains that way I'm guessing sets could be made around the third season. I do think it's the reason we're seeing a revival now, just like the Fantastic Beasts movies revived interest in Harry Potter even though they couldn't sustain many sets on their own. Honestly, I don't think anything from Season 1 would make a great set except for the forging of the Rings scene. But in later seasons when we get massive battles and more iconic locations I could see LEGO making a small/medium-sized set to test the waters. Quote
zoth33 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: I think eventually we could see sets from the show. It's pretty popular (in viewership if not fan reception) and if it remains that way I'm guessing sets could be made around the third season. I do think it's the reason we're seeing a revival now, just like the Fantastic Beasts movies revived interest in Harry Potter even though they couldn't sustain many sets on their own. Honestly, I don't think anything from Season 1 would make a great set except for the forging of the Rings scene. But in later seasons when we get massive battles and more iconic locations I could see LEGO making a small/medium-sized set to test the waters. The show had a larger viewing at the start because people really wanted to give it a chance but it really tailed off by the finale and was getting beat pretty handily by House of the Dragon. ROP was bad in my opinion especially the whole Halbrand thing and Galadriel was just a mess of a character in the show and that's just the tip of the iceberg. But with all that said I did like the look of the orcs in the show. If they do do sets from ROP I think it would produce some interesting figs and designs. This would also bring more new molds and maybe even more new weapons. It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. I think they could make some intersting sets of Moria, Elven, or Numenorean sites with some nice buildings. Or even a Numenorean ship would be nice. And if you look at the Elven hair mold with the short hair that would work for some of the weird looking elves from the show. Lego could easily make ROP sets but I don't know if they have a license with Amazon. Quote
kuzyabricks Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Sneakguest said: So many molded parts, especially animals/beasts and molded heads have only been in one set, nothing extreme about that. Right I'm saying that Lego rarely does so many exclusive pieces for just one set. Smaug is an aberration just like the cave troll and troll king. Swords and hairpieces are a different case from a molded beast. 5 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: A lot of D2C sets lately have actually gotten exclusive molds. A bunch of the cars have exclusive windshields (1989 Batmobile, Ecto-1, DeLorean) and the Disney Castle had an exclusive hair mold for Tinker Bell. But because Rivendell has so many new molds I'm hoping it's a sign of heavy investment in the LOTR theme with regular playsets to come. Right and thats another example of a smaug for the cars. They appear once and do their job. I'm sure tinker bell hair will appear again and plenty of new swords and hairpieces is a great indicator there is more to come. 3 hours ago, MAB said: It might be a single mold, with multiple parts on a sprue that get bundled into a bag. Plus these are accessories where they don't need precision molds. The only connector part are the hand held hills and so these do not need to have precise diameters. Right but the hairpieces? That is definitely gonna get reused again be it in a castle theme or a LOTR one Quote
GoldenNinja3000 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, zoth33 said: The show had a larger viewing at the start because people really wanted to give it a chance but it really tailed off by the finale and was getting beat pretty handily by House of the Dragon. ROP was bad in my opinion especially the whole Halbrand thing and Galadriel was just a mess of a character in the show and that's just the tip of the iceberg. But with all that said I did like the look of the orcs in the show. If they do do sets from ROP I think it would produce some interesting figs and designs. This would also bring more new molds and maybe even more new weapons. It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. I think they could make some intersting sets of Moria, Elven, or Numenorean sites with some nice buildings. Or even a Numenorean ship would be nice. And if you look at the Elven hair mold with the short hair that would work for some of the weird looking elves from the show. Lego could easily make ROP sets but I don't know if they have a license with Amazon. Personal opinions aside, Rings of Power has stronger viewership than House of the Dragon even if it gets less social media attention. It was #15 on Nielsen's 2022 most-watched streaming originals list and House of the Dragon didn't make it onto any. That's why I'd expect something like a small Lothlorien or Battle of Eregion set when the show eventually gets there. And I think a Season 5 Sauron final battle set would be more likely than one based on the prologue from the Fellowship of the Ring movie. But that would be several years away and I really need a Sauron minifigure sooner! Basically I think we could at least see a "Rings of Power"-branded set based on something that's also popular from the films. That way it still appeals to people who have never seen the show. But yeah, the Amazon license is another beast altogether - I'm not sure how LEGO would go about obtaining it, or even if they would want to. I'd be most interested in Numenor builds and the minifigures, but even though I love it, it's not a great loss if LEGO never does sets based on the series. Edited February 15, 2023 by GoldenNinja3000 Quote
zoth33 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 52 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: Personal opinions aside, Rings of Power has stronger viewership than House of the Dragon even if it gets less social media attention. It was #15 on Nielsen's 2022 most-watched streaming originals list and House of the Dragon didn't make it onto any. That's why I'd expect something like a small Lothlorien or Battle of Eregion set when the show eventually gets there. And I think a Season 5 Sauron final battle set would be more likely than one based on the prologue from the Fellowship of the Ring movie. But that would be several years away and I really need a Sauron minifigure sooner! Basically I think we could at least see a "Rings of Power"-branded set based on something that's also popular from the films. That way it still appeals to people who have never seen the show. But yeah, the Amazon license is another beast altogether - I'm not sure how LEGO would go about obtaining it, or even if they would want to. I'd be most interested in Numenor builds and the minifigures, but even though I love it, it's not a great loss if LEGO never does sets based on the series. Yeah is that just the streaming numbers or did that include the people who have HBO and just watched the show every week? Just curious because I didn't think that Nielsen accounted for the regular viewership of HOD. All that aside anything Middle earth would be great to see in Lego form. I missed out on a few of the LOTR sets when they came out due to not having the funds at the time. I would like to see more from the original trilogy and the Hobbit movies. They had so many things they could have made. We really need a Balrog in Lego form though that would be epic. Quote
Triceron Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: Personal opinions aside, Rings of Power has stronger viewership than House of the Dragon even if it gets less social media attention. It was #15 on Nielsen's 2022 most-watched streaming originals list and House of the Dragon didn't make it onto any. That's why I'd expect something like a small Lothlorien or Battle of Eregion set when the show eventually gets there. And I think a Season 5 Sauron final battle set would be more likely than one based on the prologue from the Fellowship of the Ring movie. But that would be several years away and I really need a Sauron minifigure sooner! Basically I think we could at least see a "Rings of Power"-branded set based on something that's also popular from the films. That way it still appeals to people who have never seen the show. But yeah, the Amazon license is another beast altogether - I'm not sure how LEGO would go about obtaining it, or even if they would want to. I'd be most interested in Numenor builds and the minifigures, but even though I love it, it's not a great loss if LEGO never does sets based on the series. Actually those numbers are fudged because they only count for Streaming, while House of Dragon was on both Cable and Streaming. Total viewership numbers of House of the Dragon would have been higher if Cable/TV wasn't separately counted. That's why there aren't any HBO shows on any of the Streaming lists. That being said, it was still quite impressive for RoP making the top 15 of the list, considering how Netflix-heavy it was. Quote
GoldenNinja3000 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Triceron said: Actually those numbers are fudged because they only count for Streaming, while House of Dragon was on both Cable and Streaming. Total viewership numbers of House of the Dragon would have been higher if Cable/TV wasn't separately counted. That's why there aren't any HBO shows on any of the Streaming lists. That being said, it was still quite impressive for RoP making the top 15 of the list, considering how Netflix-heavy it was. 2 hours ago, zoth33 said: Yeah is that just the streaming numbers or did that include the people who have HBO and just watched the show every week? Just curious because I didn't think that Nielsen accounted for the regular viewership of HOD. All that aside anything Middle earth would be great to see in Lego form. I missed out on a few of the LOTR sets when they came out due to not having the funds at the time. I would like to see more from the original trilogy and the Hobbit movies. They had so many things they could have made. We really need a Balrog in Lego form though that would be epic. Thanks, totally forgot about HotD airing on HBO too! I just think it would be great to get one Rings of Power set, no matter how small. But any kind of LEGO LOTR in this day and age is a gift Quote
mtrsteve Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 6 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: I think eventually we could see sets from the show. It's pretty popular (in viewership if not fan reception) and if it remains that way I'm guessing sets could be made around the third season. I do think it's the reason we're seeing a revival now, just like the Fantastic Beasts movies revived interest in Harry Potter even though they couldn't sustain many sets on their own. Honestly, I don't think anything from Season 1 would make a great set except for the forging of the Rings scene. But in later seasons when we get massive battles and more iconic locations I could see LEGO making a small/medium-sized set to test the waters. Looking at the sticker artwork in Rivendell, we see the Isildur/Sauron fight scene, and some have wondered if that's a nod to Barad Dur being next on the docket. IF (big if) the other stickers could be easter eggs too, we see a white city, a boat (Numenorean or elven?), and a scene with two elven smiths. Forging rings perhaps? A harfoot caravan (with the stranger protecting them from wargs) set would be dope too Quote
Ferder Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, mtrsteve said: Looking at the sticker artwork in Rivendell, we see the Isildur/Sauron fight scene, and some have wondered if that's a nod to Barad Dur being next on the docket. IF (big if) the other stickers could be easter eggs too, we see a white city, a boat (Numenorean or elven?), and a scene with two elven smiths. Forging rings perhaps? These are all based on Allan lee murals that were in the Rivendell shooting set, but most of them (with the exclusion of the Sauron VS Islidor moment) are not showcased in the films, just on the making-of DVDs. Edited February 15, 2023 by Ferder Quote
wesker Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: Personal opinions aside, Rings of Power has stronger viewership than House of the Dragon even if it gets less social media attention. It was #15 on Nielsen's 2022 most-watched streaming originals list and House of the Dragon didn't make it onto any. That's why I'd expect something like a small Lothlorien or Battle of Eregion set when the show eventually gets there. And I think a Season 5 Sauron final battle set would be more likely than one based on the prologue from the Fellowship of the Ring movie. But that would be several years away and I really need a Sauron minifigure sooner! Sauron was mentioned to be among the minifigures included in Barad-Dur so with any luck we should hopefully be seeing him sooner rather than later. Quote
hikouki Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, mtrsteve said: Looking at the sticker artwork in Rivendell, we see the Isildur/Sauron fight scene, and some have wondered if that's a nod to Barad Dur being next on the docket. IF (big if) the other stickers could be easter eggs too, we see a white city, a boat (Numenorean or elven?), and a scene with two elven smiths. Forging rings perhaps? A harfoot caravan (with the stranger protecting them from wargs) set would be dope too 55 minutes ago, Ferder said: These are all based on Allan lee murals that were in the Rivendell shooting set, but most of them (with the exclusion of the Sauron VS Islidor moment) are not showcased in the films, just on the making-of DVDs. I would definitely like to see that Elven boat! Quote
Roebuck Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 11 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: But because Rivendell has so many new molds I'm hoping it's a sign of heavy investment in the LOTR theme with regular playsets to come. How many new moulds are there in the set? weapons (1 bag with several moulds made for the set only count as one) fern (probably made with the budget of another set coming later this year) ? What failed last time was kids not buying the sets, so would not be surprised it the theme only get one big D2C a year Quote
Altair1 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said: Rings of Power has stronger viewership than House of the Dragon even if it gets less social media attention I don't know about viewership, but what is certain is that HotD has much better audience ratings than RoP: IMDB 8.5 vs 6.9, RT 82% vs 38%, etc... Quote
Khargeust Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Roebuck said: What failed last time was kids not buying the sets, so would not be surprised it the theme only get one big D2C a year Is it an official statement from LEGO ? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Roebuck said: How many new moulds are there in the set? weapons (1 bag with several moulds made for the set only count as one) fern (probably made with the budget of another set coming later this year) ? The beard piece and elven hairpiece are also new 2 hours ago, Roebuck said: What failed last time was kids not buying the sets, so would not be surprised it the theme only get one big D2C a year That’s exactly the problem. A theme consisting of playsets is not sustainable if kids don‘t buy them, which is what happened last time. Also, playsets appeal to us AFOLs, but your average LOTR fan may not be enticed as much. A range of highly detailed prestige D2C sets however… 9 minutes ago, Altair1 said: I don't know about viewership, but what is certain is that HotD has much better audience ratings than RoP: IMDB 8.5 vs 6.9, RT 82% vs 38%, etc... Ever heard of review bombing? Quote
Altair1 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Ever heard of review bombing? Yeah, that's always the same excuse given for shows with bad ratings Quote
MAB Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, Khargeust said: Is it an official statement from LEGO ? LEGO don't make statements like that, so no. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Altair1 said: Yeah, that's always the same excuse given for shows with bad ratings That‘s not merely an excuse, it does happen regularly. Just look at episode 3 of TLoU. I‘m not saying all negative ratings are trolls, because there a legitimate reasons for disliking content (and I‘m lukewarm on RoP myself), but you simply cannot trust anonymous user ratings, nor should they be used as „objective“ evidence Quote
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