Action and Adventure Themes Discussion

[legoturtle]

A lot of good points, thank you sir.

I actually bought CITY/Space sets (2022) and CITY/Exploration sets (2023). Now I am planning to buy as many "Space" sets as I can in 2024. Also this month that "Temple of the Golden Idol. It seems that CITY/sub themes are those who take a little bit of risk... not Dreamzzz or Ninjago.

[Lion King]

Yeah I do’t know how long DreamZzz will stay around. We know Ninjago stays longer becuase of popularity and TV show. Nexo Kinighs were suppsoed to have, I think, Wave 3 or 4 but Lego decided to cancel the theme due to budget issue. I understand non-licensed themes last for about two years, like Hidden Side.

Right now, I think Monkie Kid will be discounted some months after the final season. So we will see about what will happen after Monkie Kid. 

persoanlly, I would like to see new themes in future that revolts around next generation of Adventuers or Rock Raider/Power Miner/Time Cruiser. For sample, Johnny Thunder’s daughter exploding a underground Lost City or Timmy’s twin children running across time periods to foil Dr. Cyber’s old colleague, Dr. Par A. Dox’s “time-quake” plot. Rock Raider/Power Miner themes are not ready since we will have Space sets next year. 

Underwater theme is little too soon since we have Arctic Ocean subtheme this year. So it can wait a few years. 

 

[Black Falcon]

9 minutes ago, Lion King said:

Right now, I think Monkie Kid will be discounted some months after the final season. So we will see about what will happen after Monkie Kid. 

Was it announced somewhere that this season would be the final one? I have seen a discussion here about it somewhere but that sounded more like someone would think it would end rather than it was announced to be the last one

[Lion King]

55 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Was it announced somewhere that this season would be the final one? I have seen a discussion here about it somewhere but that sounded more like someone would think it would end rather than it was announced to be the last one

Well…it could be likely for them to wrap up as the series is based off Journey to the West book. I  just don’t see how they can contnue Monkie Kid theme after the book’s ending. 

[TeriXeri]

I doubt Monkie Kid would end suddenly, LEGO can keep making locations, mechs, animals, and whatnot, as this is quite a theme that gave it's own twist on Journey to the West. And it's probably one of the top selling themes in East Asia (A region that even is building a brand new factory in Vietnam right now, due for 2024)

With LEGO putting big 5-year anniversary logo on the box, perhaps a "reboot" of sorts is due.

Ninjago had some changes after it's 10th anniversary in 2021, 2022 Legacy was replaced by Core, and then full Dragon Rising in 2023 and 2024.

Friends got a timeskip after it's 10th anniversary in 2022, 2023 started with a new group of friends and somewhat new style of design.

Edited December 11, 2023 by TeriXeri

[legoturtle]

It seems that Indiana Jones is our only hope - if we want temples, traps, hidden treasure. In jungle and desert. That's why I just bought that "Golden Idol Temple". I really hope that TLG would do more I.J. sets or something similar with own adventure theme. (BUT probably that is not realistic at the moment because of these horrible Dreamzzz and Ninjago).

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by legoturtle

[Murdoch17]

2 hours ago, legoturtle said:

It seems that Indiana Jones is our only hope - if we want temples, traps, hidden treasure. In jungle and desert. That's why I just bought that "Golden Idol Temple". I really hope that TLG would do more I.J. sets or something similar with own adventure theme. (BUT probably that is not realistic at the moment because of these horrible Dreamzzz and Ninjago).

 

(I think you posted this in the wrong place, as there is an IJ thread over in Licensed.)

Anyway, the Indiana Jones theme is done, full stop. No sets are coming out in Jan. 2024, and nothing is rumored or leaked for anything further beyond that. The theme is deader than Rene Belloq at the end of Raiders.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Murdoch17

[Lyichir]

17 hours ago, Lion King said:

Well…it could be likely for them to wrap up as the series is based off Journey to the West book. I  just don’t see how they can contnue Monkie Kid theme after the book’s ending. 

I don't really think that's an issue since the Monkie Kid story isn't really a chronological retelling of the story of the book so much as a sequel series that reuses and reinterprets characters from it. So rather than working toward a predetermined "ending", it's free to extrapolate from any characters and events in the book (and associated myths) in any order, and basically as long as they want.

[legoturtle]

I really think that we should have also Licenced action/adventure themes here. Indiana Jones and also older theme Ultra Agents. Indiana Jones is great adventure theme and it have one of the BEST sets ever made. Temple full of traps and mysteries... and also golden treasure. Amazing minifigures 2023.

[Lyichir]

2 hours ago, legoturtle said:

I really think that we should have also Licenced action/adventure themes here. Indiana Jones and also older theme Ultra Agents. Indiana Jones is great adventure theme and it have one of the BEST sets ever made. Temple full of traps and mysteries... and also golden treasure. Amazing minifigures 2023.

I feel like that would be overkill... It's a small enough theme overall to fit neatly in the licensed forum, and if you started including licensed action/adventure themes in this forum it would probably include not just shorter themes like Indiana Jones but also both major superhero themes (Marvel and DC), which would risk crowding out discussion of Lego's own themes.

Plus, there are already plenty of ongoing action/adventure themes to discuss here. It's a different scenario than how Lord of the Rings or Lone Ranger discussion went into the historic forum when other historic themes were few and far between.

[legoturtle]

Why you think that Ultra Agents is not a action/adventure theme?

[Lyichir]

50 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

Why you think that Ultra Agents is not a action/adventure theme?

It is? It's not listed in the forum description but IIRC discussion of it still went here, as a successor of the original Agents theme.

[Peppermint_M]

I have no access to the forum structure, that is an Admin job. Adding a big old list of themes that have come about since the last update (I think around the introduction of Elves) just is not top priority. Then, I also end up spending more time doing site staff stuff (Like moderation) instead of making a big overhaul of my old Key Thread, of planning and launching/running contests for users to enjoy.

Some themes are more implicit, you can deduce that Ultra Agents would be here, as Agents and Alpha Team are listed. However, I have listed it in my key thread, so it is not entirely hidden from the included themes.

 

[legoturtle]

It should be on the top with other themes. I am very new here and it is difficult to find right topic if some themes are missing. Not good. Admin should fix that kind of thing quite easily. Maybe they don't want to put Ultra Agents here :/

[Peppermint_M]

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Maybe they don't want to put Ultra Agents here :/

No. We just have more important work to do than keep a list of obscure themes maintained, especially if it is pretty much Obvious considering the other Exactly Alike past themes are listed. 

You know, like moderating posts where people are making it sound like Nazis are not that bad by comparing them to harmless fiction.

[legoturtle]

 

Think about this 1 second...

- Star Wars popularity declines year by year -> we get Space subtheme in 2024.

- Indiana Jones sets are made only 3. Dreamzzz will last only 3 years. Even Ninjago will end.

Could it be somehow possible that LEGO would bring somehow back Adventures, Castle, Pirates and Space... as OWN themes. In image on top you can see:

(Pippin Reed! Pippin joined Johnny Thunder on his Orient Expedition, so is a natural presence aboard the Orient Express.) Now TLG makes castle, pirate, space minifigures BUT also Adventures. Could it possible that this upcoming subtheme "moments" or something - would try to study how people react these BEST nostalgic themes. For example that train is kind of adventure set and all Indiana Jones sets are adventure sets. They just need some place, some subtheme or own theme to exist.

I really start to think that LEGO will take adults seriously. And if the demand is for this kind of themes like Adventures for example. Could it be possible to see sets from that theme!?

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by legoturtle

[Lyichir]

On 12/23/2023 at 1:00 PM, legoturtle said:

Think about this 1 second...

- Star Wars popularity declines year by year -> we get Space subtheme in 2024.

- Indiana Jones sets are made only 3. Dreamzzz will last only 3 years. Even Ninjago will end.

Could it be somehow possible that LEGO would bring somehow back Adventures, Castle, Pirates and Space... as OWN themes. In image on top you can see:

(Pippin Reed! Pippin joined Johnny Thunder on his Orient Expedition, so is a natural presence aboard the Orient Express.) Now TLG makes castle, pirate, space minifigures BUT also Adventures. Could it possible that this upcoming subtheme "moments" or something - would try to study how people react these BEST nostalgic themes. For example that train is kind of adventure set and all Indiana Jones sets are adventure sets. They just need some place, some subtheme or own theme to exist.

I really start to think that LEGO will take adults seriously. And if the demand is for this kind of themes like Adventures for example. Could it be possible to see sets from that theme!?

 

I think Adventurers is a little more niche than broader, more long-lived themes like Castle, Space, and Pirates. Easter eggs like this do hit the nostalgia sweet spot for 30-something year olds who grew up with the theme like several of the designers who have been responsible for these cameos (not to mention myself), but I wouldn't hold my breath for a full theme revival or anything like that.

Edited December 26, 2023 by Lyichir

[legoturtle]

Yes, BUT if you count all together. All classic themes... minifigures, sets, easter eggs... that is a lot. Then we have: Ideas, Icons and upcoming Moments. We could get sets based these classic themes like we have got before. Adventurers is smaller BUT maybe...

[Lion King]

Return of Adventurers would be great! But what new settings this theme would be if Lego is doing it?

we already got before:

1.) Dino Isand
2.) Asian Jungle
3.) Himyalayas / Mount Everest
4.) Egypt 

[Black Falcon]

1 hour ago, Lion King said:

Return of Adventurers would be great! But what new settings this theme would be if Lego is doing it?

we already got before:

1.) Dino Isand
2.) Asian Jungle
3.) Himyalayas / Mount Everest
4.) Egypt 

My guess would be: Egypt. It is just the most Iconic of those IMO and it seems more likely to me they would bring an old one back instead of starting something completly new. However most likely for me it seems they would make just a single set like they did for the other themes a big pyramid with lots of details and features.

[Jeff of Clubs]

On 12/10/2023 at 1:09 PM, Lion King said:

. I understand non-licensed themes last for about two years,

 

 

 

Depends on the theme. The unlicensed Pirates and Castle themes have lasted for decades in spite of TLG's spotty support...hint...take it already, TLG

[legoturtle]

Well, problem is that CITY/Jungle might be coming in summer 2024. So that is kind of adventure "subtheme" / theme... I believe LEGO has a difficult situation, Harry Potter is kind of fantasy and related to Castle.

Then Star Wars is sci-fi and related to Space and CITY/Space. Even this Dreamzzz, Monkey Kid and Ninjago are kind of adventure themes. So if TLG makes Castle, Space or Adventurers... it has to take notice will those come popular and what that would mean for existing themes.

TLG has got bigger year by year. They don't want to change that course.

[Jeff of Clubs]

Trouble with HP theme is the minifig parts. They could probably add another kit to that theme that is cheaper and includes some suits of armor. That could go a ways towards shoring up a lack of minifig accessories. 

Train kits can be a bit sticky. The Orient Express has an incredibly low review (2.5). Some of that was just mis spelling on the stickers but a substantial part comes from the train builder community. It is a pretty display piece but there was no effort put towards making it function which seems to be a cardinal sin for any train kit.

It's my opinion that 'battle pack' minifig kits and a handful of midrange kits a year or two at a time would be sufficient without over commiting. I personally don't much care for licensed kits. They raise the price accross the range to cover licensing fees, dampen creative options and discourage TLG from pursuing their own home brewed themes.

There are a number of 3rd party companies making lusty profits by filling the demand that TLG cant/wont.

There is still nothing that 1920s biplanes, steamers and halftracks would conflict with.

Excited to see what this 'City Jungle' is all about. Regardless of theme, jungley bits are always welcome in the Pirate and Adventurers communities. I have bought several of the Botanical kits for this very reason.

A home brewed Steampunk range would have a built in customer base in addition to scratching the backs of historicals, adventurers and pirates fans.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Jeff of Clubs

[legoturtle]

Review + motor ... 1 of the best ADVENTURE sets ever made.

https://jaysbrickblog.com/?s=orient+express

[Jeff of Clubs]

I am not a train guy, I'd love to have that train for the parts alone.