Harry Potter 2019 - Rumors & discussion

[RogueTwo]

The complexity of the films has nothing to do with the number of sets we get.  While we could very well get two waves next year, it would be more because of the extreme popularity of the theme.  

That said, I think we will only get one large Hogwarts add-on next year, and if we do only get one, there’s no question in my mind as to what it will be: The Astronomy Tower, perhaps featuring a small Room of Requirement from HBP.  I have no inside intel.  But given the prominence of the Tower, at least in terms of plot, it seems like a no-brained.  Plus, it would be cool to have an extremely tall, thin tower for Hogwarts, rather than a more sprawling horizontal extension like we have had in the past.  

Edited June 1, 2019 by RogueTwo

[Legoniche]

6 minutes ago, RogueTwo said:

The complexity of the films has nothing to do with the number of sets we get.  While we could very well get two waves next year, it would be more because of the extreme popularity of the theme.  

That said, I think we will only get one large Hogwarts add-on next year, and if we do only get one, there’s no question in my mind as to what it will be: The Astronomy Tower, perhaps featuring a small Room of Requirement from HBP.  I have no inside intel.  But given the prominence of the Tower, at least in terms of plot, it seems like a no-brained.  Plus, it would be cool to have an extremely tall, thin tower for Hogwarts, rather than a more sprawling horizontal extension like we have had in the past.  

I could only really see an astronomy tower set going for £60 at most, so it wouldn’t be that large of an extension 

18 minutes ago, Decat said:

What about Hogsmade and the forbidden forest (With Grawp and Centaurs) from OOTP, and the Cave from HBP?

Oh yeah lmao- completely forgot about those scenes, my comment is redundant then, but I do think hogsmeade should be left for when they revisit prisoner of Azkaban and have a big £120 set with honey dukes, three broomsticks, shrieking shack, some trees and benches etc

 

Also what does everyone think about an Umbridge fig next year, I was lucky enough to get the bricktober pack for £18 on amazon thanks to you guys letting me know, but she has different costumes in that film e.g without the cardigan (like she has in the bricktober pack)

[lego_guyon02]

7 minutes ago, Legoniche said:

I could only really see an astronomy tower set going for £60 at most, so it wouldn’t be that large of an extension 

Kuddo's to you if you can create a somewhat minifigere sized Astronomy Tower for £60, there is no way they could pull that off. You do know the Astronomy Tower is the largest structure (in terms of height at least) in Hogwarts right? Which means, if we take the Marble Staircase Tower from the GH set as a scale-example, it has to be at least 4 or 5 floors (not even including the roof). Besides that each floor and the platform on top would need interiors/decoration and knowing lego they would also want to add a small piece of Hogwarts to the side of the tower. I could easily see the Astronomy Tower going for ~100$

[Balrogofmorgoth]

22 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

Kuddo's to you if you can create a somewhat minifigere sized Astronomy Tower for £60, there is no way they could pull that off. You do know the Astronomy Tower is the largest structure (in terms of height at least) in Hogwarts right? Which means, if we take the Marble Staircase Tower from the GH set as a scale-example, it has to be at least 4 or 5 floors (not even including the roof). Besides that each floor and the platform on top would need interiors/decoration and knowing lego they would also want to add a small piece of Hogwarts to the side of the tower. I could easily see the Astronomy Tower going for ~100$

Agreed

[RogueTwo]

A bit off topic, but has anyone bought from IWOOT (especially internationally)?  How good is their customer service/delivery?

They're the only website I can currently find that ships the new sets to the United States.  I will probably wait a month, though...  

[Legoniche]

2 hours ago, Guyon2002 said:

Kuddo's to you if you can create a somewhat minifigere sized Astronomy Tower for £60, there is no way they could pull that off. You do know the Astronomy Tower is the largest structure (in terms of height at least) in Hogwarts right? Which means, if we take the Marble Staircase Tower from the GH set as a scale-example, it has to be at least 4 or 5 floors (not even including the roof). Besides that each floor and the platform on top would need interiors/decoration and knowing lego they would also want to add a small piece of Hogwarts to the side of the tower. I could easily see the Astronomy Tower going for ~100$

Yeah looking at pictures of it it’s definitely £100- my bad ?

[Accio Lego]

As far as an Astronomy Tower set goes I think there’s a high chance we’ll get it next year, but I also think there’s a high chance that they’ll do the same thing they did this year, and make its minifigures and settings themed after the other movie in the wave.

Doing a DA themed Room of Requirements in the bottom of the Astronomy Tower lets them 1) get out of making play features for/depicting a death scene on the box art (following the trend of the graveyard, you can recreate the death scene if you want, but only if you get the characters in a different way), and 2) take advantage of their last chance (for a while) to give us lots of uniform torsos in a set.

Plus, while the room of hidden things was an important part of HBP, I doubt anyone really wants to tackle the piles of junk in there at minifigure scale (they certainly didn’t in 2010 despite giving us the vanishing cabinet and, ostensibly, the room it was in). 

[Vindicare]

8 hours ago, Legoniche said:

Also what does everyone think about an Umbridge fig next year, I was lucky enough to get the bricktober pack for £18 on amazon thanks to you guys letting me know, but she has different costumes in that film e.g without the cardigan (like she has in the bricktober pack)

I’d say she’s all but guaranteed, as she was essential to OotP. 

[KevinMD]

7 hours ago, RogueTwo said:

A bit off topic, but has anyone bought from IWOOT (especially internationally)?  How good is their customer service/delivery?

They're the only website I can currently find that ships the new sets to the United States.  I will probably wait a month, though...  

Hit or miss with packaging / condition of the boxes. 

[Accio Lego]

1 hour ago, Vindicare said:

I’d say she’s all but guaranteed, as she was essential to OotP. 

Yeah, there are some OotP sets that wouldn’t have her (fingers crossed for Grimmauld Place) but there are several sets that would. In particular, I’m pretty sure she has outfits different from the bricktober pack one both when she’s taking down the DA and during the Forbidden Forest scene (fingers crossed for centaurs )

[Vindicare]

27 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

Yeah, there are some OotP sets that wouldn’t have her (fingers crossed for Grimmauld Place) but there are several sets that would. In particular, I’m pretty sure she has outfits different from the bricktober pack one both when she’s taking down the DA and during the Forbidden Forest scene (fingers crossed for centaurs )

I’m watching OotP as I type...so I’ll be refreshed on her appearances. 

I’m betting regardless of which part of Hogwarts we get next, she’ll be thrown in there, as that’s where her moments took place. I think I’d like to see her office most, as it would be a fun departure from the usual rooms we’ve gotten in the Castle thus far. Or a classroom that resembles DADA, since one of her other finer moments took place in the Great Hall. 

 

[Legoniche]

10 minutes ago, Vindicare said:

I’m watching OotP as I type...so I’ll be refreshed on her appearances. 

I’m betting regardless of which part of Hogwarts we get next, she’ll be thrown in there, as that’s where her moments took place. I think I’d like to see her office most, as it would be a fun departure from the usual rooms we’ve gotten in the Castle thus far. Or a classroom that resembles DADA, since one of her other finer moments took place in the Great Hall. 

 

Her office is a must

46 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

Yeah, there are some OotP sets that wouldn’t have her (fingers crossed for Grimmauld Place) but there are several sets that would. In particular, I’m pretty sure she has outfits different from the bricktober pack one both when she’s taking down the DA and during the Forbidden Forest scene (fingers crossed for centaurs )

If you look at her costumes they’re different but also the 2007 Lego Umbridge is the other variant of costume without the cardigan - so the variant we could get is likely more akin to the 2007 variant probably with plain pink legs because I doubt Lego would do that insane print they gave us in the bricktober pack

[BenderBrau]

2 hours ago, Vindicare said:

I’d say she’s all but guaranteed, as she was essential to OotP. 

Moody was essential to GoF, and yet there's no sign of him in any of this year's sets. And the next Hogwarts part could be HBP themed. The truth is, except for the trio, no one is really guaranteed. I do agree though, OotP-centric Hogwarts, with Dumbledore's Army, makes more sense in terms of play value. In such a set, Umbridge could even replace Dumbledore as the school Headmistress, potentially leaving Albus exclusive to a horcrux cave set.

Good news for shoppers around Europe - until 23/06 Journey to Hogwarts polybag is free with a HP purchase of 35 £/€!

[Vindicare]

1 hour ago, Legoniche said:

Her office is a must

If you look at her costumes they’re different but also the 2007 Lego Umbridge is the other variant of costume without the cardigan - so the variant we could get is likely more akin to the 2007 variant probably with plain pink legs because I doubt Lego would do that insane print they gave us in the bricktober pack

Given how they’ve made the rooms so far, making a pink office will prove difficult, but a kitten themed printed plate or two would be fantastic.

18 minutes ago, BenderBrau said:

Moody was essential to GoF, and yet there's no sign of him in any of this year's sets. And the next Hogwarts part could be HBP themed. The truth is, except for the trio, no one is really guaranteed. I do agree though, OotP-centric Hogwarts, with Dumbledore's Army, makes more sense in terms of play value. In such a set, Umbridge could even replace Dumbledore as the school Headmistress, potentially leaving Albus exclusive to a horcrux cave set.

Good news for shoppers around Europe - until 23/06 Journey to Hogwarts polybag is free with a HP purchase of 35 £/€!

That was easier to excuse his absence since he was a CMF, I’d imagine. The Bricktober pack wasn’t nearly as easy to find. Fair point though. 

[Accio Lego]

50 minutes ago, Vindicare said:

Given how they’ve made the rooms so far, making a pink office will prove difficult, but a kitten themed printed plate or two would be fantastic.

That was easier to excuse his absence since he was a CMF, I’d imagine. The Bricktober pack wasn’t nearly as easy to find. Fair point though. 

Also worth pointing out that Moody really doesn’t change his appearance much, while Umbridge has about half a dozen outfits in OotP alone. Also, Umbridge gets herself mixed up in some actual action (busting up the DA and the iconic forbidden forest scene) while Moody (well, Crouch Jr) is notably taking a back seat from the truly high action parts of GoF (although now that I think about it we were totally robbed of kilt and spoorn wearing Moody in the Yule Ball set)  

[Clone OPatra]

Lockhart was pretty essential to Chamber of Secrets and we haven't seen him anywhere.

While this line is great, it's by no means covering everything there is to be covered. It's not even covering everything that HP fans would consider essential. Personally I hope that a second CMF series will rectify this with some of the characters they've already missed like Lockhart and Moaning Myrtle at least.

For now I'm just looking forward to getting a few of these just-released sets in my hands as soon as I can find them on slight discount and not worrying about what's missing.

[lego_guyon02]

11 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

Doing a DA themed Room of Requirements in the bottom of the Astronomy Tower lets them 1) get out of making play features for/depicting a death scene on the box art (following the trend of the graveyard, you can recreate the death scene if you want, but only if you get the characters in a different way), and 2) take advantage of their last chance (for a while) to give us lots of uniform torsos in a set.

We already have the Dumbledore from the CMF which is (as far as I know) the outfit he wore when Snape killed him. So I'd say chances are fairly high for lego to not include him at all.

Just going by the 8 figures from the clocktower I'd hope we get: Bellatrix, Greyback, Draco (black suit), Umbridge, Harry, Neville, Ginny, Luna (all 4 in uniform) with the last 4 being able to be replaced by other students. I definetely don't want Ron and Hermione to take up spots in the Astronomy Tower, we'll probably get them in other sets and have enough of both anyway.

1 hour ago, Accio Lego said:

we were totally robbed of kilt and spoorn wearing Moody in the Yule Ball set)  

That would make for a very nice CMF figure imo

[Vindicare]

22 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Lockhart was pretty essential to Chamber of Secrets and we haven't seen him anywhere.

While this line is great, it's by no means covering everything there is to be covered. It's not even covering everything that HP fans would consider essential. Personally I hope that a second CMF series will rectify this with some of the characters they've already missed like Lockhart and Moaning Myrtle at least.

For now I'm just looking forward to getting a few of these just-released sets in my hands as soon as I can find them on slight discount and not worrying about what's missing.

  Very true...I’d even put Ginny in there, to a lesser extent. Lockhart was pretty prominent much like Umbridge(and they probably had an equal number of costume changes). LEGO likes keeping us die hardship guessing I suppose...

Also, I don’t recall seeing this mentioned, but Hermione in the Calendar has an exclusive torso. Dean’s scarf goes onto his leg. 

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, Vindicare said:

Also, I don’t recall seeing this mentioned, but Hermione in the Calendar has an exclusive torso. Dean’s scarf goes onto his leg. 

It has been mentioned a few times but not much. The scarf pattern itself is also different

[Lionbear8]

16 hours ago, RogueTwo said:

The complexity of the films has nothing to do with the number of sets we get.  While we could very well get two waves next year, it would be more because of the extreme popularity of the theme.  

That said, I think we will only get one large Hogwarts add-on next year, and if we do only get one, there’s no question in my mind as to what it will be: The Astronomy Tower, perhaps featuring a small Room of Requirement from HBP.  I have no inside intel.  But given the prominence of the Tower, at least in terms of plot, it seems like a no-brained.  Plus, it would be cool to have an extremely tall, thin tower for Hogwarts, rather than a more sprawling horizontal extension like we have had in the past.  

What about the green house extenaion to Hogwarts and if they do the underground chamber as an extension as well?

Great opportunity to create a special HP display!

[Accio Lego]

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

Lockhart was pretty essential to Chamber of Secrets and we haven't seen him anywhere.

The thing is though, as important as he is, he’s only in a limited number of the major action scenes. For all the prancing around he did, he only got included in 2 of the original 2002 sets. The big one of course, was the Chamber of Secrets, which is one of the locations that got passed over last year. 

Basically, there are plenty of characters that are getting sidelined because they didn’t appear in the scenes being depicted - so it’s a really good thing we’ve got the hope of another CMF. And always keep in mind that if the theme continues to do well they’re likely to come back and do those scenes like the Chamber.

(In retrospect, we might have been a little spoiled the first time around, when the generic castle sets just went ‘shove all the most important characters in there - who cares if they were ever in scenes together’)

1 hour ago, Guyon2002 said:

Just going by the 8 figures from the clocktower I'd hope we get: Bellatrix, Greyback, Draco (black suit), Umbridge, Harry, Neville, Ginny, Luna (all 4 in uniform) with the last 4 being able to be replaced by other students. I definetely don't want Ron and Hermione to take up spots in the Astronomy Tower, we'll probably get them in other sets and have enough of both anyway.

Honestly, I can’t see them mixing up the two movies in one set like this, since they seem to be leaning into depicting very specific scenes. I’d guess the HBP characters you mentioned might have a good chance of appearing elsewhere (like a Borgin and Burke’s set). Meanwhile, a full fledged OotP castle set would include Draco in uniform, possibly with some Inquisitorial Squad friends (we’ve only gotten one Slytherin torso in the reboot so far, easy to forget we’ve been deprived of those too when they were the only non-Gryffindor uniform we got the first time). Also, while we shouldn’t get our hopes too far up, the Great Hall has 10 minifigures, and the repeated uniform torsos and plain legs on the student characters would facilitate a higher minifigure count. 

(Not including Ron and Hermione is an interesting idea - if they went with that and the set was the patronus lesson it would be great to get those two in uniform with their patronuses for their cmf variations)

[Roebuck]

4 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

The thing is though, as important as he is, he’s only in a limited number of the major action scenes. For all the prancing around he did, he only got included in 2 of the original 2002 sets. The big one of course, was the Chamber of Secrets, which is one of the locations that got passed over last year. 

Basically, there are plenty of characters that are getting sidelined because they didn’t appear in the scenes being depicted - so it’s a really good thing we’ve got the hope of another CMF. And always keep in mind that if the theme continues to do well they’re likely to come back and do those scenes like the Chamber.

(In retrospect, we might have been a little spoiled the first time around, when the generic castle sets just went ‘shove all the most important characters in there - who cares if they were ever in scenes together’)

Honestly, I can’t see them mixing up the two movies in one set like this, since they seem to be leaning into depicting very specific scenes. I’d guess the HBP characters you mentioned might have a good chance of appearing elsewhere (like a Borgin and Burke’s set). Meanwhile, a full fledged OotP castle set would include Draco in uniform, possibly with some Inquisitorial Squad friends (we’ve only gotten one Slytherin torso in the reboot so far, easy to forget we’ve been deprived of those too when they were the only non-Gryffindor uniform we got the first time). Also, while we shouldn’t get our hopes too far up, the Great Hall has 10 minifigures, and the repeated uniform torsos and plain legs on the student characters would facilitate a higher minifigure count. 

(Not including Ron and Hermione is an interesting idea - if they went with that and the set was the patronus lesson it would be great to get those two in uniform with their patronuses for their cmf variations)

You are right this time around Lego are putting in minifigs that was in the scenes in the movies, in the past they often put in figs that was missing! E.g. Snape and Hermione in the quidditch set, that has never happened before.. In the GOF sets this year we got 2 Cedric, 2 Krum and 3 Fleur, back in the days we would instead get 0 Cedric (we already got one in the CMF), 1 Krum and 1 Fleur. The 5 available minifigs spots would have been used on important figs that was missing.. The result of this is that we are missing a lot of important characters from the first 4 movies, but we have also gotten many that never had been in minifig form before I have faith in what Lego is doing whit the HP line this time and I am sure most of the missing figs will show up down the road

[lego_guyon02]

6 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

The thing is though, as important as he is, he’s only in a limited number of the major action scenes. For all the prancing around he did, he only got included in 2 of the original 2002 sets. The big one of course, was the Chamber of Secrets, which is one of the locations that got passed over last year. 

Basically, there are plenty of characters that are getting sidelined because they didn’t appear in the scenes being depicted - so it’s a really good thing we’ve got the hope of another CMF. And always keep in mind that if the theme continues to do well they’re likely to come back and do those scenes like the Chamber.

(In retrospect, we might have been a little spoiled the first time around, when the generic castle sets just went ‘shove all the most important characters in there - who cares if they were ever in scenes together’)

Honestly, I can’t see them mixing up the two movies in one set like this, since they seem to be leaning into depicting very specific scenes. I’d guess the HBP characters you mentioned might have a good chance of appearing elsewhere (like a Borgin and Burke’s set). Meanwhile, a full fledged OotP castle set would include Draco in uniform, possibly with some Inquisitorial Squad friends (we’ve only gotten one Slytherin torso in the reboot so far, easy to forget we’ve been deprived of those too when they were the only non-Gryffindor uniform we got the first time). Also, while we shouldn’t get our hopes too far up, the Great Hall has 10 minifigures, and the repeated uniform torsos and plain legs on the student characters would facilitate a higher minifigure count. 

(Not including Ron and Hermione is an interesting idea - if they went with that and the set was the patronus lesson it would be great to get those two in uniform with their patronuses for their cmf variations)

Yeah I could see them replacing Bellatrix and Greyback with maybe Crabbe and Goyle, wouldn't mind as we don't have them yet either. As long as we they don't go overkill on characters we already have I'm completely fine with it, the amount of Ron and Hermione's in this wave was very good. Both in PoA and Yule Ball (2 sets) and we didn't need them in other sets so they weren't included

[Scarlet_Patronus]

2 hours ago, Roebuck said:

You are right this time around Lego are putting in minifigs that was in the scenes in the movies, in the past they often put in figs that was missing! E.g. Snape and Hermione in the quidditch set, that has never happened before.. In the GOF sets this year we got 2 Cedric, 2 Krum and 3 Fleur, back in the days we would instead get 0 Cedric (we already got one in the CMF), 1 Krum and 1 Fleur. The 5 available minifigs spots would have been used on important figs that was missing.. The result of this is that we are missing a lot of important characters from the first 4 movies, but we have also gotten many that never had been in minifig form before I have faith in what Lego is doing whit the HP line this time and I am sure most of the missing figs will show up down the road

I think a lot of that probably has to do with the CMF as well. For example, not many people would be bothered about a Susan Bones in the CMF so would make more sense to put her in a set and include a more iconic figure in the CMF to make the CMF sell better. 

I have more faith in this series too. LEGO seem to be a bit more ballsy with what they’re doing, which has given us some really lovely sets (Yule Ball and Beauxbatons Carriage). 

[Pulp Detective]

I have to say I'm rather disappointed with the scale of the graveyard duel.The original set had much more content.