Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 13, 2019 Author Posted July 13, 2019 The little blue bird corrected itself and said there most likely won't be a B model for this :( Quote
1gor Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: The little blue bird corrected itself and said there most likely won't be a B model for this :( That is very interesting. I didn't know that there are blue birds in Vietnam. Quote
AFOLegofan66 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 You can be sure that after this gets released there will be plenty of B models!! Quote
Bartybum Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Oh so the opposite facing bucket isn’t gonna be a thing anymore? Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 18, 2019 Author Posted July 18, 2019 The other day I just thought that after buying this set, I'll order 2 BBox, 7 motors, 4 IR receivers, put them into the Liebherr, and use the Control+ motors and hubs to build my own 42099. Quote
kbalage Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: The other day I just thought that after buying this set, I'll order 2 BBox, 7 motors, 4 IR receivers, put them into the Liebherr, and use the Control+ motors and hubs to build my own 42099. Why not buying 42099 instead and do your own version? :) Quote
1gor Posted July 19, 2019 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Can this mean modular approach for Liebherr? https://pin.it/fy26wcaimcdjto ...or is just some Moc that remarkable looks like 42100 set? (Images are to small on my mobile phone to see size of it) Edited July 19, 2019 by I_Igor Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, BrickWild said: Can't wait to see Sariel's review! Yeah, well, we'll be waiting a while for that. Quote
TeamThrifty Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, BrickWild said: Can't wait to see Sariel's review! I just want to see speed builds... don't care who from, i prefer to go on my own gut feeling from what i see in the build to be honest. 9/10 times i close the vid's before it gets to the scoring part as they're not relevant to me. Of all the reviews, @Jim 's seem closest to my own thoughts, they're more glass-half-full rather than being too critical. But, reviews are just opinions.. no matter how objective the reviewer tries to be.. and the only opinion that opens my wallet is my own! (and my wife's...) Bring on the speed builds, thats where the truth is.. Quote
Dylan M Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 2:30 PM, TeamThrifty said: I just want to see speed builds... don't care who from, i prefer to go on my own gut feeling from what i see in the build to be honest. 9/10 times i close the vid's before it gets to the scoring part as they're not relevant to me. Of all the reviews, @Jim 's seem closest to my own thoughts, they're more glass-half-full rather than being too critical. But, reviews are just opinions.. no matter how objective the reviewer tries to be.. and the only opinion that opens my wallet is my own! (and my wife's...) Bring on the speed builds, thats where the truth is.. Almost same as you, but i skip the speed build part, i don't want to spoil what I'm about to discover my self!all i want from all "early-bird" reviewer is the Part list and new parts, thats it!? Quote
Saberwing40k Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 2:45 PM, mpj said: It is a Moc https://ideas.lego.com/projects/f62cd20a-b8fc-4988-b817-628507cd3503#&gid=1&pid=6 Yup, this MOC, specifically. Now Lego would have to make their version modular, if only to make the build manageable. Whether that means it will break down like the real one is up for debate. I think the arm and undercarriage will behave similarly to the real machine, but the main body will not. Why? Lego doesn't have to worry about transport weight or dimensions, so they can do what is best for the building process. Of course, they could still surprise us, and make it modular. Incidentally, does this model scale with, say, 42078? It would be pretty cool if a diorama could be configured to recreate the real setup process. Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) No B-Model for such a price is more than a shame. Imagine the case you buy this set for 450€ !!!! Euro and the app does not work on your mobile device. No app - no fun. Without app, this model is useless ... for 450 (!!!) Euro. I have the same problem with 75253 Boost Star Wars now. The app crashes in building process or at start, but my device is compatible. This is more than annoying and can happen with other app-controlled sets, even if the app runs properly before. Edited July 26, 2019 by Timorzelorzworz Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Timorzelorzworz said: No B-Model for such a price is more than a shame. Imagine the case you buy this set for 450€ !!!! Euro and the app does not work on your mobile device. No app - no fun. Without app, this model is useless ... for 450 (!!!) Euro. I have the same problem with 75253 Boost Star Wars now. The app crashes in building process or at start, but my device is compatible. This is more than annoying and can happen with other app-controlled sets, even if the app runs properly before. This is why I think this sort of motor control system is bad. And to think this is replacing PF. Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said: This is why I think this sort of motor control system is bad. And to think this is replacing PF. it is not really bad, but it is not worth the money when it depends strict on the App. The oppurtunities are amazing considering what the servo motors can do - like counting its rotation or speed. But you are ducked off if the app is just shit or will not work. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, Timorzelorzworz said: it is not really bad, but it is not worth the money when it depends strict on the App. The oppurtunities are amazing considering what the servo motors can do - like counting its rotation or speed. But you are ducked off if the app is just shit or will not work. Whereas with PF all you need is some batteries. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 26, 2019 Author Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) To think that I need to spend another bunch of money for PF motors and BBoxes and IR receivers... But I'm so tempted to convert this thing back into a good ol' IR PF thingy. Edited July 26, 2019 by Ngoc Nguyen Quote
knotian Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Converting or staying with PF is great idea, but Lego's getting rid of the rechargeable battery is a real downer. Quote
TeamThrifty Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Maaboo35 said: Without app, this model is useless ... for 450 (!!!) Euro. The pc, android or (cr)apple device you;re using to access this forum will cost more i suspect.. and there's very little guarantee that that technology will still be relevant in 5 years time, yet we're all banking and shopping online. But even if android phones go obsolete, the comms infrastructure they're using won't. The internet will still be there and we'll just migrate to new devices. Control + is the same. The 'handset' isn't really important. There'll be 3rd party options (might already be?). Its open source comms. And the 3 axis gyros, counting revolutions etc is a massive step forward. Whats really behind it, is its change, and people don't like change.. simple as that. Not everyone likes or embraces change, and thats fine... i'm an early adopter on a lot of things, i like the challenge of the new. There's a great quote from someone.. "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.." Bit harsh where lego is concerned perhaps, but the principal holds... nothing stays the same! Its not a bad thing. Quote
syclone Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) @TeamThrifty Even if the devices used to control PU don't go obsolete, there are already better options on the market using an already widespread system. In regards of "additional features", such as the gyro and rotation meter, no one asked for them and they were already present in the MINDSTORMS line, yet problems that were pointed out are still present - non-rechargeable batteries, bulky size, crappy wires and early "safety" power cutout but now with the added disadvantages of high price, non removable battery chamber (impossible to build something small with custom power options) and non-stackable connectors. Basically frick 12 years of a good system in favour of marketing and safety. I'm not the most change-embracing person (Jim knows) but I embraced BuWizz because it solved most PF problems, yet this system cannot even keep some key features. What's next, one output and 70$ dongles??? "rant over" The sets complexity and size are impressive, hopefully it doesn't look like clowntown inside and has usable color parts. Will be awaiting PF conversions from fans and overall improvements/optimizations. Most certainly won't buy afford this set, but no out-of-the-box B model would devalue it significantly. In the end, even BWE and Volvo had one and with so many parts to build with it doesn't make sense to not have one. It should be 100% possible to build a 8043-like excavator with it. Or even a bulldozer to commemorate PF release in 2007. Liebherr PR776 looks like a good candidate for that: Edited July 26, 2019 by syclone Quote
M_longer Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, syclone said: Liebherr PR776 looks like a good candidate for that: Not enough tread links :) Quote
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