Jameseh Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 I am another Brawn GP & Button Fan, currently ordering the last few remaining pieces & decals to finish off my current 2009 Ferrari set in Brawn livery MOCs. Never heard about Toyota wanting to leave if the cap comes in but I know RBR can't afford to have RBR & Toro Rosso next year due to the new chassis rule, so I don't know if with the cap they can afford it. I think Brawn's won it already unless Vettel & Webber do some amazing driving because no-one else has a hope in hell ATM. Quote
5150 Lego Posted May 13, 2009 Author Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) I think Brawn's won it already unless Vettel & Webber do some amazing driving because no-one else has a hope in hell ATM. Congrats to yourself. Cause you just jinkst Brawn! Bed Red, Renault and McLaren will now bounce back and be in the running for the title! Edited May 13, 2009 by 5150 Lego Quote
L-space Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 Congrats to yourself. Cause you just jinkst Brawn! Bed Red, Renault and McLaren will now bounce back and be in the running for the title! Well maybe this will bring back the competition in the championship Quote
MetroiD Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 It's quite interesting as it right now... Can't imagine what this season would be like if Formula and McLaren actually did have winning cars on their hands, alongside Brawn GP and Red Bull! Hopefully, that will happen next year... that is, IF Ferrari are still in F1 next year. On a sidenote, Ecclestone is nuts. Quote
KimT Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 Renault F1 just stated that if the gap is to be as intended for next year, then they're leaving F1 in the end of 2009. I sincerely hope they'll come to some sort of agreement on what the future budget max is going to be. Without the "real" teams, then Formula1 will lose some of it's greatness and become reduced to nothing more than the somewhat boring GP2 or Formula3000 (yaaaawn) Quote
5150 Lego Posted May 16, 2009 Author Posted May 16, 2009 Renault F1 just stated that if the gap is to be as intended for next year, then they're leaving F1 in the end of 2009.I sincerely hope they'll come to some sort of agreement on what the future budget max is going to be. Without the "real" teams, then Formula1 will lose some of it's greatness and become reduced to nothing more than the somewhat boring GP2 or Formula3000 (yaaaawn) To be honest, formula one really shouldn't have any kind of budget cap. I mean think about it.... Formula One is the epitome of all motor sports. -The cars are built/designed to the absolute edge of reliability, power, grip and performance. -The engine oil has to be preheated for the engine to even turn over. -The cars produce so much down force, that at 100mph, they could theoretically, drive upside down. -To perform to there very best, the cars demand the very best physical condition from their drivers. -It is THEE most difficult type of race car to drive on the planet. - -Competitors are separated mear thousands of a second. Even the weight of a wrist watch can affect an overall lap time. -Manufacturers/teams have spent millions of dollars just to shave half a second off a lap time. -Its the most technologically advanced racing on the planet. You don't make these kind of advances with budget caps. You hinder them. If your penny pinching in F1, then you don't belong. Go to Fomula 3!!! But seriously, i hope Max wakes up. Cause he's single handily, destroying F1 as we know it. Quote
L-space Posted May 16, 2009 Posted May 16, 2009 While the talks at Heathrow on the gap are continuing Lola has just stated that it wants to participate in next year's season. In the end I think it will all settle down. Some teams will leave the F1 either because they simply cannot afford it or because they can't spend what they want and others will want to join. With the crisis and all it is hard to pay millions in sponsorship and development for an automotive market that is struggling itself. Quote
KimT Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 You might be right that things will settle down and Formula1 will survive. The question is "How?" If this is the end for Renault, Ferrari and Toyota, then where's the fun? GP2 is boring andI'd hate to see F1 turn into that US type of racing where it's all about commericals. It's enough having 2 Red Bull teams - they're doing well, but that's not the issue. I want F1 to be the 'real' car companies and not some random company selling cigarettes or boats. If F1 changes into being a 26 racers championship with no heart, then it's dead for good. The FIA did add 10 million pounds to the gap, but 40 millions pounds isn't nearly enough compared to what they've spend in the previous years. Renault has already said that they'd like to have a gap, but not one that's so fiercly enforced. They asked for a lowering each year for 5 or 6 years to come - that way everyone should be able to reduce their budgets slowly and in a fair manner. Meh! I hope this wont cloud the upcoming race in Monte Carlo Quote
5150 Lego Posted May 19, 2009 Author Posted May 19, 2009 I hope this wont cloud the upcoming race in Monte Carlo Politics clouding up an F1 race??? Never! Quote
L-space Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Todays news: Ferrari going to court over the suggested cap. F1 management is starting to play "hard ball" stating that a F1 series without Ferrari is still possible. So to be continued... I have reread some of the new rule adjustments for next season and I am very interested in the four-wheel drive. Maybe Landrover can participate Quote
KimT Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 I have reread some of the new rule adjustments for next season and I am very interested in the four-wheel drive. Maybe Landrover can participate Or perhaps we'll be seeing off-road tracks. Perhaps that could bring back Takuma Sato or Juan Pablo Montoya? Quote
5150 Lego Posted May 20, 2009 Author Posted May 20, 2009 Todays news:Ferrari going to court over the suggested cap. F1 management is starting to play "hard ball" stating that a F1 series without Ferrari is still possible. So to be continued... I have reread some of the new rule adjustments for next season and I am very interested in the four-wheel drive. Maybe Landrover can participate Cars will be four wheel drive in 2010'??? Were can i find the new rules? Those are going to make for very interesting starts!! Quote
L-space Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Cars will be four wheel drive in 2010'??? Were can i find the new rules? Those are going to make for very interesting starts!! I may have been to bold in my statement. Cars can be -in theory- four wheel drive in 2010. here is the original article. A sort of joked about Landrover but don't forget what Audi did to Ralley-racing in the 80ies when they brought their permanent four-wheel drive Quattro's. All the rules and regulations can be found here. Quote
MetroiD Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5339071,00.html Three words: L O L. Hopefully now they'll stop whining and instead try to reason with the FIA. I'm not saying Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley are men of incredible genius for what they have decided to do to Formula 1, but you could definitely see that type of change coming, especially in this economic situation. The only thing that bothers me (and most F1 teams too, for that matter) is the two-tier regulation arrangement which however, if discussed properly, could be reworked into something much more appropriate. In any case, I do hope Ferrari won't decide to pack it in, F1 just wouldn't be the same without the Scuderia, even if I'm not one of their fans... Quote
5150 Lego Posted May 20, 2009 Author Posted May 20, 2009 The only thing that bothers me (and most F1 teams too, for that matter) is the two-tier regulation arrangement which however, if discussed properly, could be reworked into something much more appropriate. Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but what exactly do they mean by it being a "Two Tier Championship"? That only half of the grid will be able to fit for the championship while the other half lingers? In any case, I do hope Ferrari won't decide to pack it in, F1 just wouldn't be the same without the Scuderia, even if I'm not one of their fans... As much as Max think they can survive without Ferrari,....... They can't. Ferrari is the backbone of F1 and was one of the key runners in getting it started. Way to much fan base. F1 would not be the same without them. Quote
MetroiD Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Lovely race today, don't you fellas agree? A real pity for Lewis though, the pressure is obviously starting to get to him Well done to Ferrari, they really seem to have improved their ride A LOT during the course of these last couple of weeks... Quote
L-space Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Lovely race today, don't you fellas agree? A real pity for Lewis though, the pressure is obviously starting to get to him Well done to Ferrari, they really seem to have improved their ride A LOT during the course of these last couple of weeks... I agree! Me thinks that the circuit helped as well. Monte Carlo isn't the track where you need the most speed and downforce. And allthough Ferrari cought up this time we need to see them on a faster track. Lets see how they do in Turkey in two weeks. Quote
MetroiD Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Monte Carlo isn't the track where you need the most speed and downforce. You're right about the need to see the Ferrari car on a more "typical" racetrack before drawing conclusions... However, both Kimmi and Massa had some very good, calm performances over the entire racing weekend which went undisturbed by team errors. And that's definitely nice for a change - even if I wouldn't mind Ferrari finishing as far back as possible In comparison, Hamilton has been trying real real hard to get the maximum from the weak car he's still got, but he's pushed it over the edge at least twice throughout the weekend and it shows in his driving that his confidence is definitely a bit shattered. I do hope these hard times will prove to be a character-building challenge for him though, Lewis is not a quitter... I was also sorry to see Nakajima hit the tires... Bearing in mind it was only his second race in Monaco ever, he did show a lot of desire to perform well on that track. He drove a fine race but the lost control for one split second and that cost him, just like Vettel earlier... However, unlike Vettel I can't quite see Nakajima mounting a serious title challenge in years to come. Quote
L-space Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 You're right about the need to see the Ferrari car on a more "typical" racetrack before drawing conclusions... However, both Kimmi and Massa had some very good, calm performances over the entire racing weekend which went undisturbed by team errors. And that's definitely nice for a change - even if I wouldn't mind Ferrari finishing as far back as possible In comparison, Hamilton has been trying real real hard to get the maximum from the weak car he's still got, but he's pushed it over the edge at least twice throughout the weekend and it shows in his driving that his confidence is definitely a bit shattered. I do hope these hard times will prove to be a character-building challenge for him though, Lewis is not a quitter... I was also sorry to see Nakajima hit the tires... Bearing in mind it was only his second race in Monaco ever, he did show a lot of desire to perform well on that track. He drove a fine race but the lost control for one split second and that cost him, just like Vettel earlier... However, unlike Vettel I can't quite see Nakajima mounting a serious title challenge in years to come. Agreed He will pick-up as soon aas the engineers get the car "on the road" (I hope). Definitly too bad for Nakajima, he disserved more then this, but I think this illustrates why he will be stuck in midfield. Then new news: Williams has confirmed their participation in next season. And the official list of teams participating will come out on 12th of June. Quote
MetroiD Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 I'm certain there's a whole lot of people (and that includes teams as well!) wondering what is exactly going to happen next season... Budget cap or not, there will most definitely be more teams that want to take part in next year's season than available spots! Would be real fun if Mosley & Ecclestone let the Formula 1 enthusiasts vote which 10 teams get to participate... That reminds me, I know some of you guys are avid LEGO Town fans, so why don't you head over to the Trains & Town section, check out the Classic Town Contest and vote for your favourite ;] You can find the links in my sig... Anyway, I was thinking -- at the end of this season, both Rubens' and Jenson's contracts with Brawn GP are due to expire. Do you guys think they'll stay put? I would imagine that most "big" teams are keen on snatching Button, now that he's proven he's not just another mediocre driver. I personally would love it if he stays with Brawn, but wouldn't a potential move to Ferrari be too great to resist? What do you think? Quote
KimT Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 From Formula1.com Williams have been temporarily suspended from the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA). It follows Monday’s confirmation that Williams have lodged a formal entry for next year’s championship, despite the ongoing dispute between the teams and the FIA over the 2010 regulations.“FOTA’s decision, although regrettable, is understandable,” said team principal Frank Williams after the news emerged from a meeting of team bosses in London on Wednesday. “However, as a racing team and a company whose only business is Formula One, with obligations to our partners and our employees, submitting our entry to next year’s championship was unquestionable. "In addition, we are legally obliged under our contract with FOM and the FIA to participate in the world championship until the end of 2012.” Teams have until this Friday (May 29) to submit their entries for 2010, but several have suggested they will not do so unless the FIA modifies plans to introduce an optional £40 million budget cap in exchange for more technical freedom. During last weekend’s Monaco Grand Prix all ten teams wrote to the FIA, requesting that the existing 2009 technical rules be retained for next season to allow more time for the future framing of the Formula One regulations to be considered. Ouch A great race indeed. It made me happy to see Brawn being under pressure from Ferrari. Now where's the Renaults?! Alonso did ok and a shame that Picquet was rammed and DNF'ed. Can't wait for the next GP Quote
MetroiD Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Piquet & Nakajima need to quit F1... such a waste of good drivers' seats! Quote
KimT Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Piquet & Nakajima need to quit F1... such a waste of good drivers' seats! And who should take their seats? Ralph Schumacher? Valentino Rossi? Quote
MetroiD Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Vale Rossi ftw!!! Vale Rossi = God on 2 wheels. Imagine what he could do on 4. Quote
L-space Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Vale Rossi ftw!!!Vale Rossi = God on 2 wheels. Imagine what he could do on 4. He'll probably hit the wall every corner for trying to lean into the bend. It's way too different. Maybe we could put them all on trikes? Quote
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