LEGO Star Wars 2020 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Kit Figsto]

4 hours ago, Guyon2002 said:

Compared to the other movies it underperformed but I wouldn't say it's an underperfoming movie overall, it still made 1+ billion. But that's just my opinion 

I think it depends on how you're defining performance.  Relative to movies in general, the amount that it generated was a ton, but relative to other blockbusters, it didn't really make as much as it should've.  When you look at the amount of hype and money that Avengers: Endgame generated, Star Wars is one of the few franchises that you could probably expect to compete with that, and frankly, it didn't (it only generated about 35% of what Endgame did).  Part of that may have been because TLJ really turned quite a few people off of the franchise, but considering it was hyped up as the last Star Wars film of the Skywalker Saga, you would've expected maybe a bit more....

That being said, I really don't know if it would be possible to make Exegol into a $90-100 set.  I mean, there'd be the throne with the stuff behind it, maybe something to represent the big hole, possibly the clone-tank-things, that's about it.  The background audience seats and stuff would just be too large to capture in LEGO, and I'm not sure if they'd focus on the exterior area of the duel (unless they did a Ben vs. Knights of Ren and Rey vs. Palpatine at the same time).  I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure if they could really make that set almost $20 larger than the Final Duel set we had a number of years ago, nor larger than the Rey vs. Snoke set from a few years ago.  

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, jpipes7261 said:

How so? Set 75191 was a one off, retail exclusive, with a similar price and piece count? There are many Lego sets that have a worse price per piece ratio than that.

I forgot about this set, but I agree, an ARC-170 is possible. That's not to say it's likely that it'll be that ship, but it's possible to make one at that price.

3 hours ago, 955561976 said:

It has to be noted however that the third film in each trilogy made the least amount of money, so TROS was following the same trend as ROTJ and ROTS.

Which is a strange trend, but supported by the evidence. I don't think it'll have an impact on the sets, we still get a comparatively similar amount of ROTJ sets and (Among the prequel sets at least) ROTS sets to the other films.

Just now, Kit Figsto said:

That being said, I really don't know if it would be possible to make Exegol into a $90-100 set.  I mean, there'd be the throne with the stuff behind it, maybe something to represent the big hole, possibly the clone-tank-things, that's about it.  The background audience seats and stuff would just be too large to capture in LEGO, and I'm not sure if they'd focus on the exterior area of the duel (unless they did a Ben vs. Knights of Ren and Rey vs. Palpatine at the same time).  I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure if they could really make that set almost $20 larger than the Final Duel set we had a number of years ago, nor larger than the Rey vs. Snoke set from a few years ago.  

Yeah, it would be really difficult to get a $100, 775 piece exogol set that would in any way sell. 

[ARC2149Nova]

3 hours ago, 955561976 said:

It has to be noted however that the third film in each trilogy made the least amount of money, so TROS was following the same trend as ROTJ and ROTS.

And yet, despite financial numbers, we love ROTJ and ROTS more. 

Just now, Kit Figsto said:

I think it depends on how you're defining performance.  Relative to movies in general, the amount that it generated was a ton, but relative to other blockbusters, it didn't really make as much as it should've.  When you look at the amount of hype and money that Avengers: Endgame generated, Star Wars is one of the few franchises that you could probably expect to compete with that, and frankly, it didn't (it only generated about 35% of what Endgame did).  Part of that may have been because TLJ really turned quite a few people off of the franchise, but considering it was hyped up as the last Star Wars film of the Skywalker Saga, you would've expected maybe a bit more....

That being said, I really don't know if it would be possible to make Exegol into a $90-100 set.  I mean, there'd be the throne with the stuff behind it, maybe something to represent the big hole, possibly the clone-tank-things, that's about it.  The background audience seats and stuff would just be too large to capture in LEGO, and I'm not sure if they'd focus on the exterior area of the duel (unless they did a Ben vs. Knights of Ren and Rey vs. Palpatine at the same time).  I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure if they could really make that set almost $20 larger than the Final Duel set we had a number of years ago, nor larger than the Rey vs. Snoke set from a few years ago.  

Imo, I don't judge performance by money, I judge it by reception. Sure, I met plenty of people who said "It was great!" right after release, but overall, the general consensus (and long time fans) has determined that the movie was not great (and in my opinion, terrible). Diamond Select, a company that produces busts recently said that the demand is not there for ST merchandise. People like to think it is, but if there was, we'd have more of it. Lego was the only company to give TROS a dedicated wave of toys. Hasbro gave us a couple figures here and there and called it quits (unlike TLJ and TFA), most other companies just produced final figures of Rey and the Sith Troopers, and maybe Kylo with scorched helmet.

Lego does a lot of stupid things, financially suicidal things. A Duel on Exegol for more than $30-$50 would be the epitome of stupid. I want Palpatine in all his Sith glory as much as anyone, but I don't want to shell out ludicrous amounts of money for him.

However, in that same interview with Diamond Select, they did tell us what merch people are wanting: Clone Wars and The Mandalorian.  And of course the original six films. Rogue One probably has a spot in there somewhere too.

In conclusion, let the past (the Sequels) die. It's what Kylo would want. 

Just now, Mandalorianknight said:

I forgot about this set, but I agree, an ARC-170 is possible. That's not to say it's likely that it'll be that ship, but it's possible to make one at that price.

Which is a strange trend, but supported by the evidence. I don't think it'll have an impact on the sets, we still get a comparatively similar amount of ROTJ sets and (Among the prequel sets at least) ROTS sets to the other films.

Long have I waited... for Lego to release another ARC-170. But I will probably wait even longer. 

Both Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith are fan favorites (right next to ESB), so it makes sense that they receive tons of merchandise. Compared to Attack of the Clones, which is much more derivative among fans, even moreso than Phantom Menace. (anyone like sand?) ROTS and TPM have had more sets in single years than AOTC has had in 2 decades. So fan reception has power.

Clone Wars got more sets and as a sub-theme lasted longer than Rebels, Empire pretty much dwarfs all other OT movies in number of sets. There's a reason for that.

[lego_guyon02]

21 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

(anyone like sand?)

I never understood why this became a meme. Of course it sounded really weird but literally everything he says is 100% right. Sand IS rough, it IS course and it DOES get absolutely everywhere  I'm not even joking when I say I hate sand

[MKJoshA]

We are getting off topic guys.

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Long have I waited... for Lego to release another ARC-170. But I will probably wait even longer. 

Both Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith are fan favorites (right next to ESB), so it makes sense that they receive tons of merchandise. Compared to Attack of the Clones, which is much more derivative among fans, even moreso than Phantom Menace. (anyone like sand?) ROTS and TPM have had more sets in single years than AOTC has had in 2 decades. So fan reception has power.

Clone Wars got more sets and as a sub-theme lasted longer than Rebels, Empire pretty much dwarfs all other OT movies in number of sets. There's a reason for that.

Yeah, unfortunately the upcoming set probably won't be the ARC. I'd guess, as i have already, the gauntlet starfighter or something from the empire strikes back. Though given random sets for this in the past like the hyperdrive ring and imperial landing craft, it could be another x-wing for all we know.

And trying to stay on topic, but if you look at reception to the clone wars, people HATED it when the first seasons were coming out. In fact, 99% of criticism of rey's character is the same as people criticized ahsoka for a decade ago. And like you said, similar to the sequels, we got a ton of sets at first and it wound down quite a bit. I don't think we'll see anything more besides the Night Buzzard this year, but I think there will still be sequel sets in 2021.

[Kit Figsto]

1 minute ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And trying to stay on topic, but if you look at reception to the clone wars, people HATED it when the first seasons were coming out. In fact, 99% of criticism of rey's character is the same as people criticized ahsoka for a decade ago. And like you said, similar to the sequels, we got a ton of sets at first and it wound down quite a bit. I don't think we'll see anything more besides the Night Buzzard this year, but I think there will still be sequel sets in 2021.

I'm predicting that these next few years are going to be sort of like 2007 and ~2010-2014 or so when there wasn't new content being produced, so it was just random stuff from all eras, shows, even the EU.  I know we'll have the Mandalorian, but realistically I don't see more than maybe one or two sets per wave since the only time we ever got a major wave for a TV show was the original run of Clone Wars stuff (which was more for the film anyway).  

Speaking of Mandalorian, I wonder if there's any chance it's Gideon's TIE fighter?  I mean, it looked about the size of Kylo Ren's, which was $80 I think?  I could see them jacking the price up a little bit and making it a bit larger or including some ground battle scenes, and I think the piece count could work there.  Just a thought.

[lego_guyon02]

6 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

Speaking of Mandalorian, I wonder if there's any chance it's Gideon's TIE fighter?  I mean, it looked about the size of Kylo Ren's, which was $80 I think?  I could see them jacking the price up a little bit and making it a bit larger or including some ground battle scenes, and I think the piece count could work there.  Just a thought.

I'd rather see Gideon in a different (preferably cheaper) set, Gideon's TIE isn't that different from the standard one

[UberCorp]

6 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

any chance it's Gideon's TIE fighter

The Outland TIE would be comparable to the Imperial TIE from solo in size, which was only $70 so a $100 set seems a bit pricey. I guess they could bump it up with the folding feature and adding some sort of ground elements like the cave entrance + lava gondola but that seems a unlikely. I feel like we wont see any more The Mandalorian sets until season 2

[LurkingEhlek]

On the topic of Advent calendar figs, I am thinking the Poe will be his Star Wars Resistance version, since advent calendar figure selections tend to be varied and feature at least one TV show figure. It is a recent enough variant that I could see it happening, even if I want him from the Y-Wing more.

[lego_guyon02]

1 hour ago, LurkingEhlek said:

On the topic of Advent calendar figs, I am thinking the Poe will be his Star Wars Resistance version, since advent calendar figure selections tend to be varied and feature at least one TV show figure. It is a recent enough variant that I could see it happening, even if I want him from the Y-Wing more.

I actually think the Y-Wing version is more likely. While not exactly the same there are 2 pilot versions of Poe available now through the Black Ace and Resistance X-Wing. It would make a lot of sense to even it out with putting TRoS Poe in the Advent Calendar

[SillySeeker]

1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said:

I'm predicting that these next few years are going to be sort of like 2007 and ~2010-2014

My god I would love it we get waves that are like 2007's.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I'm predicting that these next few years are going to be sort of like 2007 and ~2010-2014 or so when there wasn't new content being produced, so it was just random stuff from all eras, shows, even the EU.  I know we'll have the Mandalorian, but realistically I don't see more than maybe one or two sets per wave since the only time we ever got a major wave for a TV show was the original run of Clone Wars stuff (which was more for the film anyway).  

Speaking of Mandalorian, I wonder if there's any chance it's Gideon's TIE fighter?  I mean, it looked about the size of Kylo Ren's, which was $80 I think?  I could see them jacking the price up a little bit and making it a bit larger or including some ground battle scenes, and I think the piece count could work there.  Just a thought.

Agreed about the next few years, we'll have sets from all different eras.

However, Gideon's TIE fighter is just a normal TIE with hinges, so unless there was a cantina sidebuild the size of one of those $30 location sets, it'd be vastly overpriced. I don't think any mandalorian content is likely until 2021 besides what we know is coming.

1 hour ago, SillySeeker said:

My god I would love it we get waves that are like 2007's.

A remake of those old clone and droid battlepacks would be amazing!

[TeufelHund]

Instead of Gideon's Tie I'd prefer a full sized Imperial Troop Transporter. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

The new Monkie Kid set leaks showcase a new lightsaber hilt - like piece for his staff, which would work perfectly for Maul (in a different colour of course) 

[Don Neimoidte de la Mancha]

1 hour ago, Lego-Freak said:

The new Monkie Kid set leaks showcase a new lightsaber hilt - like piece for his staff, which would work perfectly for Maul (in a different colour of course) 

I was just thinking the same but I am hoping the piece doesn't come in another Maul set soon because we are getting so lots of these in the last 5 years. It would be nice if it was appearing as wiring/piping in a different set and then we could use it for Maul lightsaber.

[lego_guyon02]

1 hour ago, Lego-Freak said:

The new Monkie Kid set leaks showcase a new lightsaber hilt - like piece for his staff, which would work perfectly for Maul (in a different colour of course) 

Had the same thoughts, it looks great!

[THELEGOBATMAN]

If Lego gives us a new Maul without this piece, then we should do a 501st Battle Pack-like campaign. 

[Sneakguest]

1 hour ago, Guyon2002 said:

Had the same thoughts, it looks great!

Cannot find it on the usual place, somebody mind to pm the alternative pls.

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, Sneakguest said:

Cannot find it on the usual place, somebody mind to pm the alternative pls.

You can see it in Just2Good's video on Monkie Kid 

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, Guyon2002 said:

You can see it in Just2Good's video on Monkie Kid 

Not anymore, LEGO ordered a takedown on the images and Just2Good pulled his video. I can't find it in the usual place, is it just a longer version of the lightsaber hilt?

Edited April 24, 2020 by Mandalorianknight

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Just now, Mandalorianknight said:

Not anymore, LEGO ordered a takedown on the images and Just2Good pulled his video. I can't find it in the usual place, is it just a longer version of the lightsaber hilt?

It's on #legoleaks.

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, Mandalorianknight said:

Not anymore, LEGO ordered a takedown on the images and Just2Good pulled his video. I can't find it in the usual place, is it just a longer version of the lightsaber hilt?

Yeah, I screenshotted most of the setpictures so I'll try to PM you a picture  If anyone hasn't seen them yet and can't find them feel free to PM me

Just now, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's on #legoleaks.

Not anymore, all pictures have been deleted

[BigGuy4U]

Looks cool, hopefully we can see this used for Maul and potentially other double-bladed lightsaber wielders soon. Lego's been teasing us with the extended hilt in animation for too long...

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Guyon2002 said:

Yeah, I screenshotted most of the setpictures so I'll try to PM you a picture  If anyone hasn't seen them yet and can't find them feel free to PM me

Not anymore, all pictures have been deleted

Some of them were taken down, but there are still a lot of Monkie Kid set pictures on #legoleaks, along with hilt picture.